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Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #45 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Dont see the big deal with the ruck setup, TDK is playing the best footy of his career as the lone ruck and Harry has been ok as the fill in....why change that vs Geelong who have a rubbish ruckman in Stanley and/or a rookie kid in Conway.
If it was TDK vs Darcy and Jackson or Draper/Goldstein, Cox/Cameron etc then you would think about Pittonet but vs Geelong Id be sticking with TDK only after last games efforts...

Stanley and Conway are way down in the ruck rankings but the Geelong ruck that concerns me most is Blicavs.  He'll probably be running with Cripps but his athleticism when he goes into the ruck will trouble our second stringers or De Koning in the unlikely event that Pittonet is back.  Blicavs might cause a minor headache or two but I don't think our MC will be losing sleep over him.

Just back to the down the line discussion; how often do Weitering, Kemp, McGovern and their mates intercept opposition kicks?  I reckon we'd be well ahead of most teams when it comes to intercepting kicks down the line.

Despite Hoyne's earnestness, it's not a huge problem.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #46 –
Quote from: pew2 – on
regarding the long kick especially from FB is i think one of our weakness,i have watched over the years how the opposition just set up and ball just rebounds back. When was the last time we found a lose player outside 50 and spotted him up  
    

Yes agree!    We go from having 100% control of the ball, to a 50/50 contest.    

Not always the kickers fault, lack of our players leading into space also comes into play.

Ab

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #47 –
Quote from: pew2 – on
regarding the long kick especially from FB is i think one of our weakness,i have watched over the years how the opposition just set up and ball just rebounds back. When was the last time we found a lose player outside 50 and spotted him up

The last time was Kemp to Boyd in the last quarter against Essendon. Just before that it was Kemp to Fogarty and before that it was Saad to Boyd.  Earlier in the last quarter, Ollie Hollands wasn't loose but Saad kicked cleverly to his advantage.

We had 99 marks to Essendon's 84 and only 8 were contested so we're not too bad at spotting players up.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #48 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Stanley and Conway are way down in the ruck rankings but the Geelong ruck that concerns me most is Blicavs.  He'll probably be running with Cripps but his athleticism when he goes into the ruck will trouble our second stringers or De Koning in the unlikely event that Pittonet is back.  Blicavs might cause a minor headache or two but I don't think our MC will be losing sleep over him.

Just back to the down the line discussion; how often do Weitering, Kemp, McGovern and their mates intercept opposition kicks?  I reckon we'd be well ahead of most teams when it comes to intercepting kicks down the line.

Despite Hoyne's earnestness, it's not a huge problem.
Blicavs has been way out of form this season and as Kane Cornes has pointed out now has a bad habit of kicking on his non preferred left foot all the time with poor results making him ineffective and his ruckwork hasnt been great either, 3 hitouts last game.
We will probably get more opposition from the kid Conway and Hawkins rucking down forward than Stanley and Blicavs imho.
How Stanley has survived so long as 1st ruck at such a powerful club is one of footballs modern wonders....

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #49 –
I wouldn't mind going in roughly how we lined up last time we played Geelong.  Execution hurt us more than anything else.  We had plenty of opportunities and they played efficient footy.  Almost got them despite performing quite poorly for long periods of the day.  A little more outside run is all we need.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #50 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I wouldn't mind going in roughly how we lined up last time we played Geelong.  Execution hurt us more than anything else.  We had plenty of opportunities and they played efficient footy.  Almost got them despite performing quite poorly for long periods of the day.  A little more outside run is all we need.
Agree, more run v the Cats would be very handy.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #51 –
The only possible change I can see us making this week is maybe Motlop coming in....just to add a bit more pace. But that said, the Owies/Williams combination has been working well and we haven't really relied on a big bag of goals from Charlie or Harry all year.
 

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #52 –
Barring any unforeseen injuries I'd expect an unchanged line-up. Time to start building a consistent group. The only in's before finals would be Cerra, Cottrell and MAYBE a "I promise you I won't hurt myself again" Martin.
Oh, and stop Cameron. Should put these pretenders in their place.
Go Blues

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #53 –
Williams to Stewart.
Cincotta to Holmes.
Kemp to Cameron with Kennedy to help out when he runs through the midfield.

Possibly bring Motlop in for Carroll, otherwise no change.

Just on Williams; he went back into defence in the last quarter against Essendon when McGovern was off and played hard-nosed defence.  He has also been spending time in the midfield.  Having versatile players who can play multiple roles is a bonus.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #54 –
We really should be beating teams like Geelong, otherwise WE are the pretenders
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #55 –
Not super confident about his game. They've had the wood on us for a long time, and are far from a spent force. Both teams should be pretty evenly matched.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #56 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Not super confident about his game. They've had the wood on us for a long time, and are far from a spent force. Both teams should be pretty evenly matched.
The usual suspects need to be respected:
- Stewart
- Hawkins
- Cameron
- Stengle
- Myers
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #57 –
Tanner Bruhn ruled out for them with injury.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2024 Pre-game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #59 –
Vossy’s thoughts:

“… acknowledge that there are some really important players to Geelong that help them execute the way they want to play.

Certainly [Tom] Stewart is one of those, but they’ve got players in the midfield and up forward that we’ll need to make sure that we take care of. They’re all things to keep in mind but we’ll still come into the game largely focused on how we field our own game and how we get our own game going.

We know if we have that in shape, we have enough to challenge the other way."
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!