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Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #45 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Interesting to hear Adam Kingsley say that in his opinion, Acres and Ollie Hollands are the best wingmen in the AFL.

Yep their gut running to be at both ends of the ground all the time.defies logic.

....but people want pittonet to replace Ollie 🙄

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Reply #46 –
Interesting comment.
How many teams of the week have had Hollands as the winger this year?

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Reply #47 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Yep their gut running to be at both ends of the ground all the time.defies logic.

....but people want pittonet to replace Ollie 🙄

Tbh I don’t think Ollie has been really impactful for a while.
He’s “OK” but could do with a rest and dominating VFL for a couple of weeks.

He’s not that quick, easily outmuscled.
Puts in 110% tho

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Reply #48 –
Quote from: tex – on
Tbh I don’t think Ollie has been really impactful for a while.
He’s “OK” but could do with a rest and dominating VFL for a couple of weeks.

He’s not that quick, easily outmuscled.
Puts in 110% tho

I don't think he is playing his best football either. However his 'bad' games he still puts in and does the team things.

And trying to replace him with a ruck because his stats are down is ludicrous.

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #49 –
Quote from: tex – on
Tbh I don’t think Ollie has been really impactful for a while.
He’s “OK” but could do with a rest and dominating VFL for a couple of weeks.

He’s not that quick, easily outmuscled.
Puts in 110% tho
Agree...been a liability for a while now and if both Campo kids get drafted won't be sleeping so well...

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #50 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I don't think he is playing his best football either. However his 'bad' games he still puts in and does the team things.

And trying to replace him with a ruck because his stats are down is ludicrous.
Yeah, not saying he should be replaced with a ruck.

Where we can we need to be refreshing players against clubs like north, WCE, etc over coming weeks. Also keeps players on their toes with competition for spots

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Reply #51 –
It took Acres a decade to become the player he is now. Ollie is doing okay for a second year player.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #52 –
Not the end of the world, however...

Last night looked a little too familiar. It's a mental discipline/toughness issue we've seen before against good sides who hunt us hard with vigour. A 70pt turnaround in the 2nd and 3rd is soft, even pathetic.

Above the shoulders... again. Our surrender made the Giants appear much better than they are, and they couldn't keep it up hence us getting some late goals. For a top 4 aspirant to wilt like that is deserving of serious questions. I doubt excuses and "Oh well, everyone has a down night," won't wash with Vossy.

Got ahead of ourselves? You bet. And a few leaders need to ask themselves about their egos (not Crippa).
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #53 –
10 of our starting 22 were more than 30% down on their average rankings. The Giants only had 2.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #54 –
Only 1 of our players was 30% above their average. TDK!!!

The Giants had 8.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 17 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #55 –
Quote from: tex – on
Tbh I don’t think Ollie has been really impactful for a while.
He’s “OK” but could do with a rest and dominating VFL for a couple of weeks.

He’s not that quick, easily outmuscled.
Puts in 110% tho

When commenting on Ollie there's a bit of Bambi syndrome! We cut him slack because his effort and attitude are so darn terrific. However, you're right. He does not hurt the opposition enough with possessions and tackling. Last night his metres gained were modest, especially compared to Acres. I still believe our best two wingers are Acres and Cotterell. Ollie needs strength conditioning. In the brutal physicality of finals, he'd be a worry.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #56 –
When your game is based around clearance dominance, once that breaks down you're in trouble.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #57 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
When your game is based around clearance dominance, once that breaks down you're in trouble.
Yep we have to dominate not just break even, they stacked their team with runners hoping to get lucky at the clearances.
They were also missing their version of Weitering in Sam Taylor who probably would have played on Harry and kept him to a more reasonable game too..


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Reply #58 –
Quote from: tex – on
Yeah, not saying he should be replaced with a ruck.

Where we can we need to be refreshing players against clubs like north, WCE, etc over coming weeks. Also keeps players on their toes with competition for spots

You might not be saying that, but there are a couple others who definitely are.

First step is to piss off Fantasia.
"Oh but he's been playing the cottrell role" well now we have cottrell so there is no excuse.

Kennedy made a miraculous recovery from having his leg amputating by a ruckman last week, but we should've rested him (unless Hewett is more injured) and we should swap that next week.
Get everyone right for finals.

Swap TDK and Pittonet next week and let TDKs ankle recover.

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Reply #59 –
Young Ollie is a good player.
Every chance he'll be a 200 gamer for us.
He's a player of the future.

He has a terrific attitude, he's a great gut runner.
He's also lightly framed and has a fair bit of development ahead of him.
He is suffering a bit from second year blues and is probably not playing as well consistently as he did last year, although I didn't think he was too bad last night compared to others.

He is not one of the top 2 wingmen in the AFL....yet!
And yep., I'll put my hand up...if we were picking the team to play GWS before last night I would have picked Pittonet ahead of Ollie.