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Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #30 –
Win ls a win but that was less than convincing against a team thats won 2 games. Dont want to comment, just move on as nothing can be gained from that game. Need Gov back ASAP.
A lazy performance overall.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #31 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Just listening to Marc Murphy on ABC. He said in his opinion one of our issues is that we get opened up through the middle, and that Hewett needs to play as a defensive mid. He seems to think our other mids either struggle with defense or are not defensively minded. Also spoke about our back 6, and said the reason why Kemp gets dropped is because of errors and brain fades in his game. He said that 90% of his game is good, but the 10% that isn't good is costly.
Murphy talking about being a defensive mid lol.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #32 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Sam Durdin wasn't embarrassing: he did his job, mainly on Teakle, but he wasn't the long term answer. The number of times he got his hands to the ball only to not complete the mark was frustrating.
Young has to be in the frame, but he certainly isn't setting the world on fire in the 2's.
Do we promote Kemp on his game? It was certainly a good one. But who did he play against? Has he learnt from his blunders? Do we play him up forward if H doesn't come up?

Sorry, completely disagree, Durdin should never play in the senior team ever again, he had no idea where the ball was nor his opponent, it was embarrassing.

If Weitering goes down we are finished, the dearth of quality key defenders at the club is so serious now that it must be the number 1 priority to be addressed in the upcoming off-season.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #33 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Sam Durdin wasn't embarrassing: he did his job, mainly on Teakle, but he wasn't the long term answer. The number of times he got his hands to the ball only to not complete the mark was frustrating.
Young has to be in the frame, but he certainly isn't setting the world on fire in the 2's.
Do we promote Kemp on his game? It was certainly a good one. But who did he play against? Has he learnt from his blunders? Do we play him up forward if H doesn't come up?
 

Yes, Durdin was OK for his first game in quite a while.  He was a bit rusty but his ball use is good and he kept his opponents quiet.  We missed Kemp's spoiling and intercepts but not the errors that have crept into his game.  He probably did enough in the Magoos to earn a recall but I don't know what aspects of his game Vossy wants improved.  If Kemp does come back, it shouldn't be at Durdin's expense.

North tried to exploit our lack of height in defence with Larkey, Teakle and Comben starting forward and Xerri adding more height but our defence stood up well.  Charlie's intervention was timely and capped off a pretty good game - nine marks, four goals and three intercepts.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #34 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Just listening to Marc Murphy on ABC. He said in his opinion one of our issues is that we get opened up through the middle, and that Hewett needs to play as a defensive mid. He seems to think our other mids either struggle with defense or are not defensively minded. 

Spot on - he also plays the short game better than most by making position for the short pass and then kicking it well to advantage - several of his kicks into the forward line showed exceptional touch.

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #35 –
Quote from: DJC – on
He won’t be in my best players but I just want to acknowledge Ollie Hollands for his ability to get to contests and his repeat efforts.

Never lacking in the effort department but I wish he could kick as well as his brother.

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #36 –
I thought North were very good. They didn't play like a bottom team.

Last week Sydney flogged them in Sydney but before that they have been competitive.

They beat the Suns and Eagles (away)

Lost by under a goal to Melbourne and Collingwood.

Lost by 17 to the Dogs.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #37 –
A mosquito stain on the windscreen team is Norp.
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #38 –
Quote from: BluePhantom – on
A mosquito stain on the windscreen team is Norp.
Yet, if not for a bit of luck one way or the other, they would have done us like a dinner!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #39 –
We have a nasty habit of struggling in games we should win easily.  I think the club psychologists need to go to work on that.  We are very quick to go into 'cruise' mode, and let teams bang on 4-5 in a rush and get momentum (like the 2nd quarter yesterday).

Someone needs to find the collective ruthless nerve and give it a good kick.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?
 

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #40 –
The Kangabies are a much better side than many give them credit for. And we had to put our pressure rating through the roof (3rd qtr) to get over them and even then, they wouldn't go away. In the final qtr, to keep our lead was a bloody good effort considering the revolving door of injured blokes coming on and off the ground.

Failed experiments: Dropping Hewett ::) Cincotta on Zuhaar (why the fck would you sacrifice someone so quick over the grass to the last line of defence  ::)) ...and probably dropping Kemp.
Good to see: Cottrell regaining touch, Cerra finally stepping up later in the game, Motlop back, Charles kicking well for goal, H's ruck work and work up the ground.
Don't get: Weiters criticism, Tall Durds criticism.
Bottom line: There's a fleas chin (cleaned that up) between 2nd and 7th on the ladder. With the exception of the Weagles, any and every other side outside the 8 is capable of knocking off a top 8 side.
We are very much, still, a work in progress.
Expect: Pitto in this week, along with Kemp and perhaps Binns. Outs: Injured blokes.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #41 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
The Kangabies are a much better side than many give them credit for. And we had to put our pressure rating through the roof (3rd qtr) to get over them and even then, they wouldn't go away. In the final qtr, to keep our lead was a bloody good effort considering the revolving door of injured blokes coming on and off the ground.

Failed experiments: Dropping Hewett ::) Cincotta on Zuhaar (why the fck would you sacrifice someone so quick over the grass to the last line of defence  ::)) ...and probably dropping Kemp.
Good to see: Cottrell regaining touch, Cerra finally stepping up later in the game, Motlop back, Charles kicking well for goal, H's ruck work and work up the ground.
Don't get: Weiters criticism, Tall Durds criticism.
Bottom line: There's a fleas chin (cleaned that up) between 2nd and 7th on the ladder. With the exception of the Weagles, any and every other side outside the 8 is capable of knocking off a top 8 side.
We are very much, still, a work in progress.
Expect: Pitto in this week, along with Kemp and perhaps Binns. Outs: Injured blokes.

North have been playing some pretty good footy and Wet Toast have wins over the Dockers and Dees.  Take any team lightly at your peril.

We had a cobbled together defence with Kemp, Boyd and Marchbank out and Durdin the only replacement.  That meant Cincotta going back to full time defender, Cerra and Kennedy playing in defence and 186cm Newman playing on 203cm Teakle. 

With the procession of our players heading to the rooms for running repairs, our defence was under significant pressure and I thought they held up very well … but I was relieved when Charlie made his appearance in the backline.  Weitering was a bulwark and tall Durdin was solid.

Owies should have cemented his place in the 22 and young Motlop has laid the foundations for his spot.  Small forwards have to make the most of limited opportunities and Motlop does that in spades. Small Durdin and Fantasia don’t at present.

It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #42 –
I think we'd kill for an LDU type at the moment, heavy body, agile, hard at the contest, we have that, but he is loaded with outside pace compared to our Mids, and how good is Wardlaw?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #43 –
Norf are a good team.
Need Gov in the backline though.
Intercept game in the back half was largely non existent.

Re: AFL Rd 19 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #44 –
Three weeks in a row we have had to face a team that have come off a bad loss and were ready to play. Bulldogs and the Giants are good teams and while we didn't beat them we had our opportunities. North had been given a free ride with draft picks, something we weren't gifted, and they have some very good players. Big Durdin was injured early but was able to play out the game well. TDK was injured but when he got on top we were able to find another gear. Cerra and Kennedy spent time down back. I don't mind Kennedy in the backline and besides one soft free kick he shut down his opponent. I am a bit more doubtful about Cerra but he did take a number of intercept marks. I like it when our small forwards kick goals. Fogarty has started to get a few and Cincotta looks dangerous while Owies is having a good season. I wouldn't mind finding a spot for Martin. Walsh, Acres and TDK looked sore and I wouldn't mind bringing in Pittonett, Kemp or McGovern, and Binns for them.
There is an awful lot of Carlton rethoric out there at the moment. A team like Brisbane gets a free pass by beating Sydney when they are playing well, Sydney is off the boil, playing at home, Sydney lose three players and after leading by five goals, fall across the line. You want to be playing your best football in September and not in July.