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Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #30 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Kruddler called it in the preseason. We need s second key defender.

Thanks.

I think I called it a few years ago but I keep highlighting it until someone does something about it.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #31 –
We won most of the key stats, had way more ball, won the stoppages even though we got smashed in the hitout stats, even had more frees . A lot of our players had great stats and on paper it looks great but its clear a lot of those stats are meaningless possessions that go nowhere apart from the stat sheet and show up as only around 7 more forward entries with a poor efficiency rate down forward but our efficiency rate around the ground was better than Collingwood probably because we play keepings off well. A lot of our best ball winners dont do enough with the ball imo and we are not getting the forward entries we should or the quality.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #32 –
We've been irrelevant for almost 30 years, the butt of every joke.  A continuous rebuild that never gets anywhere, while clubs like Hawks are down for all of two minutes.

Joke of a club, treats its fans with contempt by serving up sh1t like the last 6 weeks.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #33 –
Not trying to suggest we are not in bad form right now, just offering some perspective.

Swans are 1-5 from their past 6 games.
Their only win was against North.

People wanted to hand them the cup and move onto next year 6 weeks ago.
6 weeks from now, who knows what will change in the AFL landscape.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #34 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Cerra out early.
Cottrell out soon after.
Acres playing hurt.
Charlie getting hurt.
Newman playing hurt.

Couldn't find the big sticks all game.

Getting flogged for 3/4s

Still had a chance to beat the premiers and should've won if not for govs terrible effort.

Cest la vie

Excuses excuses excuses. If you look for them you will find heaps. The bottom teams can find them after every lose yet they are still a bottom team. We find excuses as though its an easy fix to change it but that is far from the truth.

The reality is we fail every single time it really matters and hence why we are a mid table team folks.

We have several that look like A graders against all but the top tier teams and that sort of list will not take you all the way.

Midfield is too slow lack a decent second tall defender and our twin talls dont perform on the very biggest stage.

Yep you can keep looking for positives but the facts are we are only a mid tier team yet show glimpses during the year which just ends in giving us long suffering supporters fake hope.

We fail time and time again when it matters and again will have stressful weeks now to even try and make finals let alone finish top 4. 

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #35 –
Pretenders until we prove otherwise
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #36 –
At the game, devastated.

Pies do the basics right. We don’t. Dunno how many times we didn’t have basic front and centres.

Mentally we’re not all there, especially against this mob.

We only came back because De Goey was injured - it was obvious to see at the ground.

Kinda glad Curnows streak is over, now he can play freely without it hanging over his head.

This year has promised so much, and yet may nearly deliver so little.

Gov probs should’ve given the kick to Martin after the siren if he’d hurt his head.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #37 –
With Cotts and Cez out injured Voss has no choice but to be creative because whatever he has been trying tactically has not been working past two months. This is where pennies are earned - lets see how creative and good our senior coach is. He is a damn good senior coach but a great one? Time will tell...

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #38 –
Quote from: pinot – on
With Cotts and Cez out injured Voss has no choice but to be creative because whatever he has been trying tactically has not been working past two months. This is where pennies are earned - lets see how creative and good our senior coach is. He is a damn good senior coach but a great one? Time will tell...


Tactically I think the jury is out on Voss and Im fed up with the Hewett, Kennedy merry go round as well......why was Kennedy sub?

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #39 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Tactically I think the jury is out on Voss and Im fed up with the Hewett, Kennedy merry go round as well......why was Kennedy sub?
Agree - why is this the only change they seem to make.

Maddening.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #40 –
Why don’t we Shepard ever? Such a basic skill and we rarely do it.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #41 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Agree - why is this the only change they seem to make.

Maddening.
Micky...Seems to be this idea they are similar and slow so they cant play in the same team together, however I think we perform better when they do and they are part of our one wood midfield team that helps us over power other midfields.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #42 –
Another comment - Cripps was superhuman in the last. Can literally see him grow another foot.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #43 –
The composition isnt working.
Need to shift some things to make it work.
Maybe swap Charlie and Harry and Harry plays deeper in forward line..
Maybe just stick with hewett, kennedy and cripps in the middle with walsh and acres coming in with from the wings.
Motlop and Elijah are developing nicely ---- Motlop and Elijah sat on bench last 10 minutes while trying to win the game... they are forwards... I mean, what?
I don't know but this isnt working and have enough talent and cattle to make it work
 

Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #44 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Pendles 400, injuries etc excuses excuses excuses  and while Collinwood win premierships we make excuses.
Maybe not creative and brave enough at the selection table is my main concern...if a player doesnt deserve a game then they should not play AFL football. I am guessing many will be happy with that fightback - but thats where we are as a club honourable losses not going away in a hurry - leadership and attitude Joel Selwood/Stephen Kernahan/John Nicholls style should have won us that match from the second quarter.
Presser from Voss will be fascinating.
Well said Pinot. We lack leadership and a hard edge  15 minutes of good football when the game is almost shot is not good enough.
The Hawks will tear us a new one next week with their pace and toughness.
Sayonara 2024..