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Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #15 –
Zero skill. Zero balls. Zero heart.

Absolutely pathetic.

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Reply #16 –
Bashed up by a group of kids. Shameful.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #17 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Something crook in tootgarook.

You mean like the whole team getting around McGovern after he missed a gettable shot to win the game last week. Closed ranks. Win together, fail together. Etc.

So what does he do to repay the team? Gives a gobfull to a teammate who was apparently to blame for his own inability to spoil his opponent.

Disgraceful.
Keyboard warrior #24601

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #18 –
You won't be running out games and putting yourself in a winning position when you have a total of 49 interchanges for the game.

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Reply #19 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
You won't be running out games and putting yourself in a winning position when you have a total of 49 interchanges for the game.

We were cooked before the injuries. We couldn't catch them and if we did we couldn't tackle them.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #20 –
Billy Wilson, Ashton Moir, Jaxon Binns even Harry Lemmey have proven to be durable.
So that's a start we are drafting durable youngsters along with Ollie and Moo.
Campo boys are durable. The year is not over yet we are still in it.
But this club needs to finally take a stand on injury prone players.

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Reply #21 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Billy Wilson, Ashton Moir, Jaxon Binns even Harry Lemmey have proven to be durable.
Excluding Binns they have all had injuries this season, and relative to AFL they are basically playing against boys.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #22 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
We were cooked before the injuries. We couldn't catch them and if we did we couldn't tackle them.

Against a young, running, in form team like Hawthorn, it was always going to be a challenge when you are fielding injury prone players, and players carrying niggles

The lack of rotations so early in the piece snuffed out whatever chance we had of being competitive IMO.

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Reply #23 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
You won't be running out games and putting yourself in a winning position when you have a total of 49 interchanges for the game.

I wonder why?

Going by the afl app....
We had martin subbed early.
Fogarty out at the same time.
Curnow was an out.
McGovern was out then came back on.
Saad was out.
Kennedy was injured
Boyd was injured.
Cincotta was injured
Acres was injured.

We were playing blokes who shouldn't have been playing and changing blokes through the 1 interchange spot we had available.

Playing too many injured players over the past month came to a head today.

So it's injuries not rotations.

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Reply #24 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
The lack of rotations so early in the piece snuffed out whatever chance we had of being competitive IMO.
We were also out coached today, for me the last quarter shows that.

We had the ability to slow the Dawks and blunt / hinder their attack despite being cooked, it could have happened 2 qtrs earlier, but it seems we have no interest in grinding the ugly loss.

From that 1st qtr carnage, we need a change of tactics and it didn't happen.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #25 –
They were smashing us from the start.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #26 –
Well that was terrible. Regardless of what happens now the season is over. Martin, Cunners and Marchy must be moved on we simply can't play three short for another season. Our lack of speed is a real concern as is our second key back, Kemp is not the guy.
What happened to my old profile?????

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Reply #27 –
Our skills coach needs the boot too.  If I see one more fking loping handball that puts a player under j necessary pressure, I’ll scream.

Along with the just too short kicks or just too long kicks! Puts pressure on the receiver for absolutely no reason.

Not sure where our awareness of the play disappeared to too but god it was painful to watch.

Not sure what to think now - I feel gutted and feel we’ve missed yet another opportunity and teams have again surpassed us.

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Reply #28 –
Quote from: blueday – on
Well that was terrible. Regardless of what happens now the season is over. Martin, Cunners and Marchy must be moved on we simply can't play three short for another season. Our lack of speed is a real concern as is our second key back, Kemp is not the guy.
Thought kemp was good today and last week.

Agree enough enough of the  injured players UNLESS whoever replaces Russell is able to identify something that will get them resilient.

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Reply #29 –
‘The level of disappointment at a result is directly related to the level of expectation.”

I’m very disappointed.
I expected better, but…

“Injuries are no excuse”…  is a nonsense cliché.
Injuries are the best excuse there is.
They affect structure, matchups and roles.
You start the year with a full list and then the injuries start….
A few significant season ending injuries to key players or role players (Docherty, Silvagni).
Minor injuries are managed through the year, but these become more significant as the season draws to a close and time for recovery runs out.
You get a serious injury to one of your key movers, (DeKoning)
Some players are one-or two weeks ‘in’ four weeks ‘out’ players. (Martin, Cunningham, Marchbank)
Others have minor injuries that see them miss the odd week or not see out games (McGovern, Saad)
Then you have those who are bought back in after a period on the sidelines and never really regain their touch, before being injured again. (Cerra, Cottrell)
Then there are the group who play injured rather than resting (and I suspect that group is larger than we realise)…before the inevitable happens. (Charlie)

Jordan Boyd was pretty much a traffic cone today (no stats at all) but he was forced to stay out there on one leg…filling a spot.
Acres was often grabbing for his pec/shoulder area today… yet had 28 which is a testament to his effort.
All of these factors mean every fit and ‘half fit’ player has to shoulder an extra burden and that eventually takes a toll and affects effort and attitude.

The surprising thing when you think about it is… that the result probably isn’t all that ‘surprising’.

So…we may not make the finals.
Normally you would think “we need that experience”…but we got that last year with essentially the same group, so it is not an essential.
If we do make it, then it will be quite likely that the injury situation after today will mean a fairly early exit.
It may be time to start thinking about a future beyond September.