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Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #135 –
I'd like to hear from the Terrier himself, or bona fide confirmed sources. Until then these rumours are all just 3/7ths of FA.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #136 –
Just for craps and giggles.....'injuries are no excuse' for a loss....

Harry McKay (quad)
- Scans have confirmed he sustained quad injury on Sunday
- Availability: 1-2 weeks

Jack Martin (hamstring)
- Scans have confirmed a minor hamstring strain
- Availability: 1-2 weeks

Adam Saad (hamstring)
- Scans have confirmed a minor hamstring strain
- Availability: 1-2 weeks

Charlie Curnow (ankle)
- Experienced a sprained ankle on Sunday
- Availability: 1-2 weeks

Lachie Fogarty (collarbone)
- Experienced a fractured collarbone on Sunday
- Will miss the remainder of the 2024 season

Jordan Boyd (adductor)
- Experienced a significant adductor injury during the game on Sunday
- Will miss at least the remainder of the home and away season

Caleb Marchbank (concussion)
- Availability: 1-2 weeks

Orazio Fantasia (calf)
- Availability: Test

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #137 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Who do you think made the call on Charlie to play on the weekend?

The high performance manager who just quit
The coach
The doctor
That comes down to Voss and the MC.

My argument is the non stop soft tissues that have plagued is for 6 years.

I've criticised Voss in other weeks for continuing to pick half fit, out of form players.  A reason why though they are repeat injuries and half fit in the first place.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #138 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
I'd like to hear from the Terrier himself, or bona fide confirmed sources. Until then these rumours are all just 3/7ths of FA.

Did say they were rumours but something is very wrong in the fitness area. This time is cooked a genuine premiership shot. Year after year

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #139 –
Rumours need to be put to bed quickly...or they grow damaging legs.
Perish the thought but... it sounds very much like "Review time" again. ;)

If mistakes have been made, if boundaries have been crossed it needs to be identified and corrected.
Last time folks strayed out of their lanes it cost us a few personnel.
A strong head of football would be very active in sorting these things out.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #140 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
If that was true then Voss should clear out his desk.
If that was true, Russell would have walked straight away.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #141 –
Shakin is obviously right with his source. Good asit gets. I do believe the stuff that says training was picked up 6 weeks ago preparing for finals. It has obviously damaged the players rather than preparing them. Seems Russell may have told Voss they are not right and was ignored. Voss has continued to play half fit, out of form players while Russell has rogered us for 6 years.

All my opinion.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #142 –
There's something about all this simplistic finger pointing that just doesn't add up. When you consider the number of stakeholders involved, it's just can't be that cut and dried, at least if my knowledge of human behaviour is anything to go by.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #143 –
Need a win this weekend like our life depends on it - more so to settle everyone down after a long string of bad luck

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #144 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
There's something about all this simplistic finger pointing that just doesn't add up. When you consider the number of stakeholders involved, it's just can't be that cut and dried, at least if my knowledge of human behaviour is anything to go by.
Agree however since they rushed Cotters and cerra back too early and made George and Kennedy subs, something started to stink….

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #145 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Agree however since they rushed Cotters and cerra back too early and made George and Kennedy subs, something started to stink….
The Hewett/Kennedy scenario has been ridiculous and cost us imo, Cerra is now another high risk injury prone player and will need to be managed from now on and wont ever play a full season.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #146 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
Agree however since they rushed Cotters and cerra back too early and made George and Kennedy subs, something started to stink….

Maybe, but I'd still like a clear read on the interactions between the various stakeholders in these situations. What if the player declares they are tip top, smashes all the fitness tests etc., what then ? Do they still get held back ? How does one distinguish between a "niggle" and a genuine injury, when the player appears to be moving freely and without pain ? I can't imagine these issues are just black and white.

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #147 –
Its up to the player whether he can play - its also up to the player to prepare correctly and not be lazy.

If he can run, jump, twist, tackle and kick then he is fit to play

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #148 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Maybe, but I'd still like a clear read on the interactions between the various stakeholders in these situations. What if the player declares they are tip top, smashes all the fitness tests etc., what then ? Do they still get held back ? How does one distinguish between a "niggle" and a genuine injury, when the player appears to be moving freely and without pain ? I can't imagine these issues are just black and white.

When you are a game and a half clear in second place.....you bring them back through the VFL.....half a game at a time if you need too.

No reason to do anything other than that.
 

Re: AFL Rd 22 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #149 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
When you are a game and a half clear in second place.....you bring them back through the VFL.....half a game at a time if you need too.

No reason to do anything other than that.

Yep, it was weird.

It's not hindsight either I could find my posts questioning it.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!