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Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

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Quote from: kruddler – on
FB: Docherty - S. Durdin - Boyd
HB:   Saad   - Marchbank - McGovern
C:   Cottrell -    Cerra -   Cuningham
HF: Fogarty - Silvagni - Martin
FF: C. Durdin - Curnow - Williams
R: De Koning - Kennedy - Cincotta
Int: Fantasia - M. Carroll - O'Keefe - Acres

In orange are players i noticed with injuries today that are NOT listed as officially injured yet.
All other players are on the injury list, or were listed as injured at the end of the game today.

Thats a full team of 22.....and there may be more as i'm not up to date with our VFL team and potential injuries from that.
That really makes horrifying reading.

So glad Russell is going. He can screw right off.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #16 –
Still not convinced that the Terrier can be held responsible for all our injuries.

Of K's list above...

Bad luck, which can happen to any club: Docherty, Silvagni, small Durds, Fogarty, Curnow, TDK, Cottrell, M Carroll.
Glassmen: Marchbank, Cuningham, Williams, Martin, Fantasia.
Normal in-season injuries: The rest.

There wouldn't be a club at this stage of the season that wouldn't be 'nursing' injured players/blokes playing injured.

The game against the Weagles this Sunday, through necessity, will provide an opportunity to give a few lads from the Magoos a chance to experience senior footy... Binns, Billy Wilson and perhaps even Moir.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #17 –
Saad and Cerra are now full fledged members of the injury club. Saad is getting to that age now but Cerra is concerning.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #18 –
Oh Calamity ::)

Harry in doubt (see injury thread)


Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #19 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Still not convinced that the Terrier can be held responsible for all our injuries.

Of K's list above...

Bad luck, which can happen to any club: Docherty, Silvagni, small Durds, Fogarty, Curnow, TDK, Cottrell, M Carroll.
Glassmen: Marchbank, Cuningham, Williams, Martin, Fantasia.
Normal in-season injuries: The rest.

There wouldn't be a club at this stage of the season that wouldn't be 'nursing' injured players/blokes playing injured.

The game against the Weagles this Sunday, through necessity, will provide an opportunity to give a few lads from the Magoos a chance to experience senior footy... Binns, Billy Wilson and perhaps even Moir.
While he can't be blamed for reco and collision injuries he can with the soft tissue ones. He can be blamed given this has been a constant for 6 years. Leave that in no doubt. Derailed a flag shot. I'm getting the feeling we have been playing with more injuries that has been mentioned publicly IMO at least.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #20 –
Quote from: laj – on
I'm getting the feeling we have been playing with more injuries that has been mentioned publicly IMO at least.

Yep
There's no doubt about that...there was a lot of speculation for weeks that Curnow has been playing injured.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #21 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Still not convinced that the Terrier can be held responsible for all our injuries.

x 2
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #22 –
Still not convinced there isn't a problem in the S&C area
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #23 –
Thinking of this season (!!)  and how to win the next two games.

Yes tough gig with all those injuries.  Do we still have a rookie spot available?
If we are to be without Charlie and Harry M. ..... "could" really roll the dice and bring in McMahon. 
McMahon & Harry L, might be a better option than playing Young and some other up forward.

Very interesting to see how our coaches handle selecting a competitive team for next week's game
Ab

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #24 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Durdin couldn't handle a beach ball ATM.
C. Durdin is part of the rat pack injury list group, a beach ball would probably injure him and put him out for 6 weeks...

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #25 –
Quote from: laj – on
While he can't be bpamed for reco and collision injuries he can with the soft tissue ones. He can be blamed given thishas been a constant for 6 years. Leave that in no doubt. Derailed a flag shot. I'm getting the feeling we have been playing with more injuries that has been mentioned publicly IMO at least.

I get it, this joining the dots caper offers up plenty of scenarios. But we don't have all the dots. I assume the Terrier reports to the Head of Football, Brad Lloyd. Who knows what Lloyd does with the Terrier's recommendations.

And then we start 2nd guessing when certain players just don't 'look right'... could be anything, as well as carrying an injury. Anything could be going on... just look at the odd MC selections recently - Kennedy and Hewett doing the sub rounds springs to mind, along with Young replacing H, those few performing well in the Magoos not getting a look in... and so it goes. Any wonder we start jumping at shadows!
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #26 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
C. Durdin is part of the rat pack injury list group, a beach ball would probably injure him and put him out for 6 weeks...
Still don't know why he got a contract extension, couldn't be based on his form/body of work :o
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #27 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Still don't know why he got a contract extension, couldn't be based on his form/body of work :o
Agree....the contracts we have been writing have reduced our ability to get more creative with the list.
C.Durdin is an ok player when the team are playing well and can chip in here and there and can be carried but he doesnt get enough ball even for a small forward and is another who cant get on the park and stay there for any length of time.
You look at Ginnivan and he has helped propel the Hawks up the ladder and has increased his output both as a forward and been able to work up the ground and assist the midfielders. This is the modern forward pocket and we need better numbers from ours and unfortunately we need to make changes and get some better equipped small forwards to help Charlie and Harry.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #28 –
While finals are still mathematically possible, a team like the Hawks deserves that spot way more than we do...simple as that. With 6 players likely to be missing from last weekend, there's not much left to choose from so lets have a look at Moir, Lemmey, Binns, Wilson, Carroll.....even Mirkov. He couldn't be any worse than Pittonet's been in the last month.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Perth

Reply #29 –
For me... the expectation for a strength and conditioning person is to determine why these injuries are occurring and tailoring programs for the prevention of/ and recovery from them.
There's not a lot you can do about impact injuries.
Recurring soft tissue injuries and poor recovery leading to repeat injuries is another issue.

So it then goes to the specifics of his departure.

If he was pushed, the club was obvioulsy not happy with his work.
If he's walked away frustrated that his recommendations aren't being followed that's a different story...one we may never know.