Carlton Supporters Club

I've made a few big predictions over the past couple decades on these boards (or previous incarnations of them that are lost to time).

First one, may have even been pre-my time on here. - In about '95-'96, "Kouta will one day win a brownlow." - He got robbed by Woewodin
Second one, Cripps will one day win a brownlow...after he started showcasing what i saw from his U18's highlight package soon after Judd - He obviously pulled that off, twice.

I've also hitched my wagon to a few kids over the journey based on U18's viewings and where our first pick was at the time and what i thought we needed (Not in order.)
1. Bryce Gibbs - A given, you might say, but plenty of #1's haven't worked out quite as well. He had time and smarts that exceeded his peers.
2. Chris Yarran - Freakish athlete. He had time and smarts that exceeded his peers.
3. Nathan Djerrkura - Not many may remember him. played for the cats and dogs. He was a bit undersized, but was hard at the contest and was good defensively and but still exhibited the talents of an indigenous player. Was a speculative late pick.
4. Patrick Cripps - Again, he had time and vision that exceeded his peers. It was obvious to see.

We, obviously, chose 3 out of those 4 and seemed to live up to my and most people expectations.

Despite what the bombers saw in the fat kid, i always thought it was pretty obvious that he had talent, smarts and vision. Whats harder to see from those same viewings is his passion, desire and dedication. Thats where he sets himself apart from the 3 other listed players (to varying degrees) and makes him the player he is today.

Agree, if it MUST be a first round pick, make it next years. If we expect to play finals, back yourself in. Next years pick will be in the 'teens' if we make finals. Much better keeping this years pick instead.

Personally i'd rather Trade Cripps to Freo and get Cerra and a 1st rounder back.

Didn't you want to trade him.
I think I was OK with it at the time too

Everyone is tradeable at the right price. Doesn't mean they can't play.

That's why I think I agreed with you at the time.
But I also suspect his price has increased from Cerra and a 1st rounder

Going through the old footage you can see Cripps has put in a LOT of work - his kicking was not great as a kid.

I think Cerras current price is the issue there.

We traded pick 6 and a future 3rd for Cerra.

Package that up with another 1st rounder and thats about the biggest deal thats ever been done.....which is about right for Cripps

West Coast have pick 3.
If they can trade for pick 20
...then 3, 20 and Reid would probably get it done

 and we'll throw in the Kennedy this time.

Is Harf still bitter, not healthy hanging onto that stuff, better to unload it and move on, unless it's a hatred of CheatsFC?

‘Totally skewed the voting’: Was Cripps’ 2024 season the best Brownlow year this century?

That's the headline in an article in yesterday's Age: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/totally-skewed-the-voting-was-cripps-2024-season-the-best-brownlow-year-this-century-20241203-p5kvce.html

It goes over some old ground with Daniel Harford declaring, "There is no season in the history of football that is worthy of one player getting 45 votes. It’s a ridiculous outcome. Happy for him to win, no dramas, and I think he was the best player, but 45 votes, it has totally skewed the voting system at the moment."

The two votes for 19 touches against Essendon gets a mention but Nick Daicos getting a vote for a game where he was subbed out out after 15 touches is ignored.  In fact, there's no mention of Daicos also passing the previous record tally of 36 votes.  I think that the fact that two players passed the previous record undermines Harf's "skewed voting" comment.

Karl Langdon probably makes the most sense when he argues that you can't really compare Brownlows from different years because of rule changes, the quality of opposition players and other season specific factors.

Anyway, it's worth a read.

I read the article when it came out and confess almost yawning. Slow news days tend to yield ho-hum articles like this. For moi, Crippa polled so many votes because he had a bloody good season plus no other midfielders (injuries/form etc.) taking votes from him.

Top 10
1.Patrick Cripps (Carlton) - Midfielder
2. Nick Daicos (Collingwood) - Midfielder
3. Zak Butters (Port Adelaide) - Midfielder
=4. Caleb Serong (Fremantle) - Midfielder
=4. Isaac Heeney (Sydney) - Forward/Midfielder
6. Tom Green (GWS) - Midfielder
7. Adam Treloar (Western Bulldogs) - Midfielder
=8. Errol Gulden (Sydney) - Midfielder
=8. Matt Rowell (Gold Coast) - Midfielder
10. Jai Newcombe (Hawthorn) - Forward/Midfielder