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Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #60 –
Some played one quarter others half a game. Rotated 30 players - played with intensity for a quarter and then dropped off.

Acres, Cerra & Hewett were very solid
Motlop was good
TDK was good 4th term
Matt Carroll and Ashton Moir showed signs
Elijah Hollands only played a qtr and looked good
The rest of them seemed disinterested after qtr time.

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #61 –
We can all have our opinions, but the most important opinions are those behind the closed doors. Did we achieve what we wanted in these 5 areas?  Did our top liners get to crash and bash against a real opposition for a quarter or two. How did we perform when we put our foot to the floor for the first 20 min??
Another game in 6 days time. Is busting your gut in 34 degree temperatures really a good prep??  Get out there, have a training run, and get off.

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #62 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Another game in 6 days time. Is busting your gut in 34 degree temperatures really a good prep??  Get out there, have a training run, and get off.
They've built strength and conditioning in the off-season, enough to get through a full season, you don't waste that conditioning and also risk a dehydration related soft tissue injury by flogging yourself in a meaningless and hot pre-season game.

We want them to be fit, fresh and firing at the pointy end of the season, not limping across the line on the last remnants of their legs!

The same applies to managing players through the season, sharing the load, making sure you have them when it matters.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #63 –
I've seen a bit of criticism about Docherty around the traps.
For me that was one of the better aspects of yesterday.
I was seriously concerned that he might never make it back to a regular position in the side.
I thought he was rusty but he showed enough to dispel some of those concerns.
He's missed a lot of football under true match conditions and more than anything else he needs game time
I reckon he'll get better as the season progresses, and while his best may probably be behind him, I think he'll be a more than useful part of the side.

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #64 –
has anyone NOTICED anything different to our game plan from previous years ,are we still doing that crap long bomb into fwd 50 ???

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #65 –
Anyone read the reports Jagga has torn this ACL?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #67 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Anyone read the reports Jagga has torn this ACL?

I read somewhere he had a knock to his knee?

Mitch Cleary reporting scans confirmed torn ACL
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #68 –
The new fitness bloke can't prevent injuries. Who would have thought?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #69 –
We are farken cursed I tall ya.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #70 –
Brisbane had some season ending injuries and poor start but managed to overcome all those hurdles and prevail so we have to have the next man up mentality. Maybe Ben Campo gets to play Smith's role and can rise to the occasion....

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #71 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
I'd be measured.  I genuinely don't care.  This is all about how the individuals went, which rubs against the green of what i look for most weeks.

Questions for anyone who watched:
Fair enough, Thry. I, for one, cared a fair bit, because I was looking for improvements in our areas of weakness and saw none of them. That irritated me a lot.

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Was Jack Carroll playing for the saints?  Was he any good?
I don't think he played, as I would have recognized him.
Stocker played and wasn't anything to write home about.

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I've heard good things about Lord.  Promising?
Lord only came on late, but was significant in his time on the ground. He'll play more this season.

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How was binns?
Binns got a fair bit of  ball, 21 possessions I think. However, his disposal was excremental. He basically gave the ball back. It wasn't easy hitting targets in the wind, but we were particularly poor at it. Worse, we had no faith, and looked to pass the ball, which killed us.

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Lemmey and o keefe?
Lemmey only played the last quarter, but had 1 possession and 2 tackles. He still has a long way to go. Mind you, it wasn't easy being a key forward for us, not the way we butchered the ball.
Skull O'Keefe also came on for the last quarter and wasn't bad. He got his hands to the ball more than Pitto did (Pitto had a shocker). He also took a couple of huge marks; alas, he couldn't control them. He also played at least half of the second's game and was decent.

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The bonfide senior boys are just wiping away the cobwebs at this stage and like the regular season we don't know how hard we are going off the park at this point too.
I have never seen Cripps do ineffective. His first few minutes were Cripps-like, but that was it. H was the same; 5 minutes of glory and barely a kick thereafter. Weitering was a long way off the pace and had no impact on the game. He really struggled in the wind. George got it 26 times, but really didn't do much with it. he had a change to win the game, with the wind at his back, and passed the ball off, missing the target. The ball went up the other end and Travaglia kicked the sealer from 50 into the gale. Young took a couple of reasonable marks, but didn't provide much drive. McGovern took a couple of screamers, but didn't do a lot else. Zac ... did not much. Fantasia was invisible for 3.5 quarters. Motlop was our most effective small forward and he was missing for quite a while. His last quarter was more than decent. Doc was ineffective.

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Cotters is he going ok?
Cottrell got a bit of the ball, but wasn't his normal self. He needed the run.

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Was the dual ruck setup the abject failure I thought it would be?
Wouldn't have been such an issue without the wind; it made being a forward problematical. Pitto was well beaten and did nothing up forward. Tom didn't do much for a while, but he turned in on in one patch, getting clearances and taking some ripper marks. His kicking at goal - I'm not going there. To miss by so far when the wind is pushing the ball in the other direction ... you get the idea. :(


Quote from: Thryleon – on
Finally, was this match a trial of a mosquito fleet type forwardline?
We were thrashed on the ground, especially in our forward line. St. Kilda ran it out ridiculously easily. Their 2 playmakers had picnics as our guys wouldn't go near them.

And then there was the piece-de resistance: Jagga, who looked very good, went off with what appeared to be a minor knee injury: it is an ACL. :(  He was good. Now, he'll miss the year.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #72 –
Bad luck for Jagga Jet.... will do rehab with Nic Newman who is like a coach anyway and come back bigger and better.

Re: 2025 Practice Match vs St. Kilda

Reply #74 –
You take nothing out of the game  Not even the game plan. Look at Freo agai at the All Stars. Deliberately showed nothing of their game.o