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Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #75 –
You are only as good as those you practise with.

When our Mids kick the ball to Motlop or Evans in 1 on 1 they expect them to mark, because that is what happens at training, Motlop and Evans better our small to medium defenders at training. We've built a game plan on something that doesn't really exist.

Watching the replay, when Nthmond started turning the game around Jack Riewoldt praised for the simple act of Lynch not being out marked, bringing the ball to ground for the crumbers as the first step. Unlike last night when BigH was outpointed by a newbie, we've previously gone through a whole season without BigH or Charlie being out marked and we still see zero impact from the smalls or the Mids pushing forward. It's a huge problem.

Our Mids do not have the pace to get ahead of the contest, so they go early, King talks about it as anticipation during the Fox broadcast, but that leaves our defence heavily exposed and when Nthmond forced mistakes we get burnt the other way because our slower than average Mids and SFF can't catch up with the play.

We basically have to be flawless in execution to have a chance, and that is impossible.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #76 –
Moir and Carroll next week.  Ta ta Haynes,  MacG and Motlop.  SoS forward, Kemp back
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #77 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Moir and Carroll next week.  Ta ta Haynes,  MacG and Motlop.  SoS forward, Kemp back
They dont have the balls to do that, should be done but they won't.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #80 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Moir and Carroll next week.  Ta ta Haynes,  MacG and Motlop.  SoS forward, Kemp back
Wont happen, wouldnt see that many changes apart from Charlie being rushed back in fit or not.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #81 –
The team looked disjointed and lacking cohesion. I'm not sure reactionary changes are in the team's best long term interest. The season is barely a pup.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #82 –
Why the hell did Vossy say at the open training that we wouldn't win every game? Why introduce failure into the conversation?

I think a spotlight, unfortunately, will move to our coaching group.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #83 –
The only good thing that happened to me last night was getting a train home before the Richmond mob arrived.

I agree with all the comments made so far on this thread.  After so many decades watching Carlton I knew we were in trouble half way through the second quarter.  Unlike our glory years when we would come out after half time and belt the opposition into submission by three quarter time, we once again showed the mental fragility that has been on display  every season this century.

Despite numerous coaches and hundreds of players moving through our list this century, the two things supporters can expect to happen with certainty are mental fragility and players crumbling under pressure.

I just give up.

 

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #84 –
Quote from: Macca37 – on
The only good thing that happened to me last night was getting a train home before the Richmond mob arrived.

I agree with all the comments made so far on this thread.  After so many decades watching Carlton I knew we were in trouble half way through the second quarter.  Unlike our glory years when we would come out after half time and belt the opposition into submission by three quarter time, we once again showed the mental fragility that has been on display  every season this century.

Despite numerous coaches and hundreds of players moving through our list this century, the two things supporters can expect to happen with certainty are mental fragility and players crumbling under pressure.

I just give up.

I feel the same. We have deep deep cultural problems.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #85 –
Ah well, suppose we wait until next week to see if the 2nd half was a round 1-like aberration you see often, or we are heading into a long season. Happy to wait a week and see but not exactly full of confidence. Win next week and no-one cares about last night, lose though badly though.........
 

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #86 –
A long year folks.   :))  :))  :))

Tiggers will struggle as the season gets going. How some were saying we will win by 100 pts is a joke, these first round games are always close.

I put all the fumbles and mistakes down to precieved pressure and first game nerves. Backline needs more continuity.  It all looks great in match simulation and practice hitouts but the reality is anyone can beat anyone if your even five percent off. 5 goals fron defensive turnovers should be enough to demand a few answers.

Sacking coaches, blaming the recuiting and bagging players is what we are......

I will once again review my comments after round 12.

We will be better with Charlie back next week and I expect a  massive mindshift. They should review the Fark out of the second half and then have a gander at the Reserves today.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #87 –
Not much more to add that hasn't already been stated by the learned supporters on this forum.
I'm a rusted on 45 year Carlton member and I'm flat as a tack today.
Agree totally that their are players out there  because of reputation/past glories/false expectations.
Let's see what the response is in the next few weeks.
The room of mirrors is going to be crowded at PP this week.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #88 –
I usually have a bit of time for Dunstall, but his stoic defence of Lynch belting TDK in the jaw with a straight out hip and shoulder was utter diabolic dribble.

In the post match, they (Dunstall and King) started blaming Weitering for pushing Lynch into TDK, they seem to forget the broadcast these days is 4K 100Hz and the slow motion is unequivocal about the amount of force used by players. Dunstall is of course betting the footy ratings on the general public being dead set morons and swallowing the spin.

However, then along comes Christian, he'll probably clear Lynch and ban Weiters for four weeks.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 1 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #89 –
Quote from: LP – on
I usually have a bit of time for Dunstall, but his stoic defence of Lynch belting TDK in the jaw with a straight out hip and shoulder was utter diabolic dribble.

In the post match, they (Dunstall and King) started blaming Weitering for pushing Lynch into TDK, they seem to forget the broadcast these days is 4K 100Hz and the slow motion is unequivocal about the amount of force used by players. Dunstall is of course betting the footy ratings on the general public being dead set morons and swallowing the spin.

However, then along comes Christian, he'll probably clear Lynch and ban Weiters for four weeks.
Lynch has form imo for doing dirty stuff and if the AFL are serious about head high hits they will give him a holiday...