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Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #90
Charlie looks likely, an important inclusion. We must capitalise on our I50s.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #91
Charlie looks likely, an important inclusion. We must capitalise on our I50s.
He's going to be rusty as fark, I dont expect much from him to be honest. We saw that with Walsh last week.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #92
Going by training photos there could be a few positional changes.


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Reply #93
Two astronauts who have been stuck in outer space for nine months have discovered Carlton haven't changed.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #94
Okay, so let's be honest.

Who would be surprised if the Dawks beat us by, say, 5+ goals, possibly more, many more. (my guess, more than 90% of us).

Who would be surprised if we beat the Dawks? (My guess, less than 10% of us).
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #95
Okay, so let's be honest.

Who would be surprised if the Dawks beat us by, say, 5+ goals, possibly more, many more. (my guess, more than 90% of us).

Who would be surprised if we beat the Dawks? (My guess, less than 10% of us).
I think we can win as it's a two horse race but it's never about rebound wins it's about the consistency afterwards and if we can sustain the effort needed to be a good team you can trust.
I'm expecting our best players to show some leadership and put up a much better effort.

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Reply #96
If we don't come out with an intensity and pressure it will be an indictment, and any criticism fully deserved.
The question will be how long we can sustain that pressure.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #97
Okay, so let's be honest.

Who would be surprised if the Dawks beat us by, say, 5+ goals, possibly more, many more. (my guess, more than 90% of us).

Who would be surprised if we beat the Dawks? (My guess, less than 10% of us).
I think we can win as it's a two horse race but it's never about rebound wins it's about the consistency afterwards and if we can sustain the effort needed to be a good team you can trust.
I'm expecting our best players to show some leadership and put up a much better effort.
I listened to Hird on TV last night talk about how we could win (and thought we could):
- Outnumber - Tackle numbers and Pressure (increase numbers and ganging up on oppo players (showed how Coll double and triple teamed oppo this week compared to the GWS game). Must take away Haw's space and time by outnumbering them at the contest. Coll tackle diff went from -20 to +26.

- Win the contested footy and clearance which is our one wood.

- Locate after the contest. New term being used by commentators lately which I think means understand where the oppo is at all times. Set up to not allow Haw to just walk through the lines. Too many of our blokes get drawn to the contest leaving the too many free in space.

I found this quite interesting, Hird and Rory Sloan gave good insights.

ALot of the above came down to on field leaders directing traffic (as you suggested EB).
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #98

I think we can win as it's a two horse race but it's never about rebound wins it's about the consistency afterwards and if we can sustain the effort needed to be a good team you can trust.
I'm expecting our best players to show some leadership and put up a much better effort.
I listened to Hird on TV last night talk about how we could win (and thought we could):
- Outnumber - Tackle numbers and Pressure (increase numbers and ganging up on oppo players (showed how Coll double and triple teamed oppo this week compared to the GWS game). Must take away Haw's space and time by outnumbering them at the contest. Coll tackle diff went from -20 to +26.

- Win the contested footy and clearance which is our one wood.

- Locate after the contest. New term being used by commentators lately which I think means understand where the oppo is at all times. Set up to not allow Haw to just walk through the lines. Too many of our blokes get drawn to the contest leaving the too many free in space.

I found this quite interesting, Hird and Rory Sloan gave good insights.

ALot of the above came down to on field leaders directing traffic (as you suggested EB).


In other words, become the hunters. Fierce, unrelenting, hunters.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #99
If we don't come out with an intensity and pressure it will be an indictment, and any criticism fully deserved.
The question will be how long we can sustain that pressure.


Exactly. How long. We are the pin-up boys for going to sleep for at least one qtr in just about every game.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #100
I think we can win as it's a two horse race but it's never about rebound wins it's about the consistency afterwards and if we can sustain the effort needed to be a good team you can trust.
I'm expecting our best players to show some leadership and put up a much better effort.

Last week’s result confirmed that no team is guaranteed a win regardless of the opposition.

We won’t win if we repeat the inexplicable skill errors and poor decision-making of last week.  Hopefully, that was an aberration and we’ll see AFL standard footy from everyone who runs out tomorrow night.  If we can achieve that, we’re in with a good chance.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #101
I think we can win as it's a two horse race but it's never about rebound wins it's about the consistency afterwards and if we can sustain the effort needed to be a good team you can trust.
I'm expecting our best players to show some leadership and put up a much better effort.

Last week’s result confirmed that no team is guaranteed a win regardless of the opposition.

We won’t win if we repeat the inexplicable skill errors and poor decision-making of last week.  Hopefully, that was an aberration and we’ll see AFL standard footy from everyone who runs out tomorrow night.  If we can achieve that, we’re in with a good chance.

Agree, but we must get bang for our buck; we must get reward for effort. I have absolutely no doubt that had we have been more efficient in front of goal against the Tiggers we'd have got the choccies... we won most metrics but were horribly inefficient which sapped system and confidence.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #102
I think Charlie will help Harry be better and we will get some better conversion. As always it's our midfield winning the clearances and Sam Walsh could be a key driver after a slow start last week. Cripps will get a lot of attention so I expect Walsh to lift.
I'm not expecting our small forwards to contribute much and anything they contribute will be a bonus, they might be better just staying out of the way and leaving some space for Charlie and Harry to operate in.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #103
Hopeful but far from confident.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #104
Dawks are playing up to the AFL / AFL media about how badly treated the Wiz is, expect it to be Free Kick Hawthorn all night long!

Our fans should hold up "Free Kick Hawthorn" banners as the starting siren sounds, and never let up!

Wiz will get rewarded for excessive exhaling in his vicinity, while Cripps will have his head ripped off in stoppages and it'll be play on!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"