AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

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Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #60 – March 27, 2025, 08:32:54 am

Confimed by the club Harry is out of Friday nights game due to personal reasons.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1740678/mckay-ruled-out-of-friday-night

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Reply #61 – March 27, 2025, 08:34:22 am

Quote from: Baggers – on March 27, 2025, 08:20:06 am

These rumours may be right... or a crock of sh*t. What concerns me is that there are a lot of assumptions and jumping at shadows. Perhaps a time to step back and keep the powder dry. As soon as 6:25 this evening we'll know more. Until then...

Check the website.

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Reply #62 – March 27, 2025, 08:51:49 am

The fact that he trained with the group yesterday is a positive sign.
He's around mates who will support him.
It would suggest the issues are not club related.
In some respects it might be those connections that help him work through any problems.

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Reply #63 – March 27, 2025, 08:57:49 am

Resilience

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Reply #64 – March 27, 2025, 09:43:48 am

IMO, you’d have to reasonably conclude that Harry’s off field issues played a part (big or small) in our average start to the season, especially the Richmond game.

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Reply #65 – March 27, 2025, 09:59:28 am

Quote from: PaulP – on March 27, 2025, 09:43:48 am

IMO, you’d have to reasonably conclude that Harry’s off field issues played a part (big or small) in our average start to the season, especially the Richmond game.

Harry looked like he was in for a great season with his form in our intra club match sims. He was demolishing whoever drew the short straw and had to play on him. That form continued in the St Kilda game but he was subbed off after limited minutes. The GWS game was much the same; a brief cameo that promised much.

Perhaps that limited game time reflected Harry’s issues rather than the club wishing to avoid unnecessary exposure to injury …

Idle speculation but when linked to his Richmond game and current unavailability 🤔

Hopefully, Harry will be getting the help and support he needs and can deal with whatever is troubling him.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #66 – March 27, 2025, 10:06:12 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on March 27, 2025, 08:34:22 am

Quote from: Baggers – on March 27, 2025, 08:20:06 am
These rumours may be right... or a crock of sh*t. What concerns me is that there are a lot of assumptions and jumping at shadows. Perhaps a time to step back and keep the powder dry. As soon as 6:25 this evening we'll know more. Until then...
Check the website.

Just did.
So now we know, and move on.
Glad that H will have plenty of quality support around - the most important thing. Now the rumour fans will have a speculation party.
Might see Charles, Kemp and JSOS up forward together. Who knows.
I remain optimistic about tomorrow night.

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Reply #67 – March 27, 2025, 10:09:00 am

Quote from: Baggers – on March 27, 2025, 10:06:12 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on March 27, 2025, 08:34:22 am
Check the website.
Just did.
So now we know, and move on.
Glad that H will have plenty of quality support around - the most important thing. Now the rumour fans will have a speculation party.
Might see Charles, Kemp and JSOS up forward together. Who knows.
I remain optimistic about tomorrow night.

Its hard but that's all we can do, remain optimistic and hopefully the tide turns.

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Reply #68 – March 27, 2025, 11:45:31 am

I know the McKay boys like their podcast, but I can't help feeling with them both struggling on-field, it might be time to park it, they just open themselves up to trolls of all types.

No point having a podcast if it means you can't get on the park.

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Reply #69 – March 27, 2025, 11:47:29 am

Quote from: tonyo – on March 27, 2025, 11:45:31 am

I know the McKay boys like their podcast, but I can't help feeling with them both struggling on-field, it might be time to park it, they just open themselves up to trolls of all types.

No point having a podcast if it means you can't get on the park.

Indeed. With both of them enduring rough patches, it might be time to concentrate on 'what's important', whatever that might be for them at this time.

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Reply #70 – March 27, 2025, 12:15:19 pm

Bite the bullet and give Lemmey a run and put Jack in the backline.

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Reply #71 – March 27, 2025, 02:32:29 pm

Hand the keys in

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Reply #72 – March 27, 2025, 03:21:30 pm

I must admit I'm not at all confident about tomorrow night. We aren't as bad as some people are suggesting but we've got real issues with key personnel.
[1] Jagga Smith: Jagga was the 'missing piece' of the midfield, that something new that added pace and unpredictability to what is a pretty predictable group. That hurt.
Now, going forward, our midfield is going to be transformed as Jagga and young Walker alter the mix. Also Cooper Lord, who looks to have a future, but that doesn't help us this year,
[2] Our key forwards have been as good as any and better than most over the last couple of years. But, at the moment, we're lacking input from both of them. H will be back when he is back. Charlie missed substantial time over the summer with operations. It is going to be weeks before they are back to their best, but it should happen. That should transform our forward line as they take contested marks and kick (lots of) goals.
[3] Our defence is in transition. We have one great key defender in Weitering and a couple of good small defenders, but the rest ... We are all aware of the problems here. We have addressed them. Young O'Farrell looks the goods, but he is young and inexperienced. It is early to look to Peter Dean's boy, but he is also looking promising. It would be nice to grab another (athletic) tall defender, but that is another tale.
Again, the problem is that it doesn't help us now.

Also, losing Newman was a huge loss. He doesn't just take our the opposition's best small forwards, he gets 25 - 30 possessions a game. We are really missing that.
Haynes was insurance, but we'd had to use hum and he's struggled. I hope he can continue to improve, but he will have to live with his Rd 1 game.
[4] Small forwards: the one who looked good in the pre-season was Fantasia, much to my surprise. Now he's injured (again). The rest are struggling and out of form. But they should improve as well. Just how long that takes ...

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #73 – March 27, 2025, 03:30:42 pm

Not confident at all. Too much of our better talent missing, underdone or out of form. I’ll leave it there - don’t want to get too negative.

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Reply #74 – March 27, 2025, 04:13:58 pm

Quote from: cookie2 – on March 27, 2025, 03:30:42 pm

Not confident at all. Too much of our better talent missing, underdone or out of form. I’ll leave it there - don’t want to get too negative.

Even with what we have on the park, if we clean up our execution and finishing we should account for the WBs who have a worse injury list than us. I say that with no confidence that we can in fact clean it up.