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Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #75 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: Baggers – on
Just a bunch of really honest, hard-working triers with some terrific moments let down badly by the bottom six to eight players? Are we back in the honourable losses and brave efforts niche? Making the 8 seems miles away.

Nailed it.

We were sold a slow long to cut to the bone rebuild to have sustained deep finals action for 4-5 years with the hope of getting a few flags while in that window. Well its a failure as that is clearly not going to happen without wholesale changes to the list and if TDK leaves we have another hole in it to fill.

30 years between flags and still look miles off.

We’re hard to beat but not good enough to win

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #76 –
Quote from: JonDorotich – on
Quote from: shawny – on


Nailed it.

We were sold a slow long to cut to the bone rebuild to have sustained deep finals action for 4-5 years with the hope of getting a few flags while in that window. Well its a failure as that is clearly not going to happen without wholesale changes to the list and if TDK leaves we have another hole in it to fill.

30 years between flags and still look miles off.

We’re hard to beat but not good enough to win
I wouldn't call us hard to beat at the moment.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #77 –
Just about to turn 65 and bleed Navy Blue. I'm lucky I can still remember 95 and the good years.

I love this site and value everyone's comments and insights.

I still believe we will come good and make the 8. It's the last 14 games and finals that really count. See Bris last year.... We just heed a scalp and all will change. I hope it's roast magpie . We could of won all three games,  just disappointed that we lack the killer blow.  I'm just watching the Suntan Boys totality destroy the mighty Dee's. You think we are in trouble. See Melbourne... at least we put in an effort.

I'm no football expert, played and coached like most my age. If we fail this year, like most are saying, I honestly don't no which direction our club will go.  Do they sack the coach or back him in,
Do go after a quick fix, Do we rebuild.........    We are Carlton..

My 5 cents:

I have total confidence in the coach.
I have total confidence in the CEO and the incoming Mr Wright....

Recruiting

Totally agree with the trades to get Jagga.  You all know our luck with injuries. Enough said. So the panel is still out this year. If you want to be the best you need the best Football knowledge working for you. The last 15 years has been average to say the least.  I dont  have the answer, I hope Mr Wright has.

Player Development

Very average in the past. Hopefully having a fitter list and our VFL playing 20 odd games we can develope a few kids. I have confidence Mr Power and Ebert. Some of the kids heed a good feed and introduce themselves to the Bench press  O0







Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #78 –
Think we tried hard but don't have the extra talent once other teams reestablish themselves in the game.
At half time I knew we were in trouble as they were mounting a comeback and we struggle when teams fightback and we capitulate eventually.
Kemp was probably a positive in a game where goals were hard to get, and Cripps, TDk plugged away with Weitering and Jack containing Darcy and Naughton.
Sad to see Kennedy in a Dogs outfit and our mate Liam Jones would have been handy too, still got no idea why Evans and Haynes were recruited....

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #79 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Sad to see Kennedy in a Dogs outfit and our mate Liam Jones would have been handy too, still got no idea why Evans and Haynes were recruited....

Yep for mine, Liam Jones is exactly what we are lacking.
We haven't done squat to replace him since we left. Only thing of note was getting Young in for either pick 52 or SPS, whichever way you want to look at it.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #80 –
Most on here bagged the crap out of Jones for not taking the covid shots and didn't him at the club. He is exactly what we need right now to fill that void. Dumb

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #81 –
SPS... More nightmare recruiting
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #82 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Most on here bagged the crap out of Jones for not taking the covid shots and didn't him at the club. He is exactly what we need right now to fill that void. Dumb

He put himself and his dopey conspiracy theories before the team, in the middle of a pandemic. Whether we need him now or not is by the bye. There should be room for individuality and players having different values, but some things are not negotiable. I'm glad the club took a stand.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #83 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Quote from: shawny – on
Most on here bagged the crap out of Jones for not taking the covid shots and didn't him at the club. He is exactly what we need right now to fill that void. Dumb

He put himself and his dopey conspiracy theories before the team, in the middle of a pandemic. Whether we need him now or not is by the bye. There should be room for individuality and players having different values, but some things are not negotiable. I'm glad the club took a stand.

Im not glad at all. We had the player we now desperately and let him walk out the door.    Swap jones with Young last week and we likely win. Massive c0ckup.

Geelong and Richmond to name a few both have/had players on there list charged with a serious crime but they do what is best for there team and supporters and work around the situation until the know the result.

We play judge and jury and lose a player we couldn't afford to lose but on the flip side we are expected to full support a player with a drug and say we all need to support them and wrap our arms around them.

Double standards.


Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #84 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: PaulP – on


He put himself and his dopey conspiracy theories before the team, in the middle of a pandemic. Whether we need him now or not is by the bye. There should be room for individuality and players having different values, but some things are not negotiable. I'm glad the club took a stand.

Im not glad at all. We had the player we now desperately and let him walk out the door.    Swap jones with Young last week and we likely win. Massive c0ckup.

Geelong and Richmond to name a few both have/had players on there list charged with a serious crime but they do what is best for there team and supporters and work around the situation until the know the result.

We play judge and jury and lose a player we couldn't afford to lose but on the flip side we are expected to full support a player with a drug and say we all need to support them and wrap our arms around them.

Double standards.

Jones leaving hurt us and continues to hurt us.
However, under no circumstances do I wish the club do anything other than what they did.
The uproar it would've caused, media attention, loss of sponsors etc. Not worth it.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #85 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Im not glad at all. We had the player we now desperately and let him walk out the door.  Swap jones with Young last week and we likely win. Massive c0ckup.

Geelong and Richmond to name a few both have/had players on there list charged with a serious crime but they do what is best for there team and supporters and work around the situation until the know the result.

We play judge and jury and lose a player we couldn't afford to lose but on the flip side we are expected to full support a player with a drug and say we all need to support them and wrap our arms around them.

Double standards.

I doubt very much that our three losses have anything to do with Jones. Our most successful years since 2002 have been 2022, 2023 and 2024. I'm not in any way suggesting that it's because we got rid of Jones, merely pointing out that we don't need him specifically to be successful.

Supporting Elijah Hollands and moving on Jones is not even remotely an example of double standards IMO.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #86 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: PaulP – on


He put himself and his dopey conspiracy theories before the team, in the middle of a pandemic. Whether we need him now or not is by the bye. There should be room for individuality and players having different values, but some things are not negotiable. I'm glad the club took a stand.

Im not glad at all. We had the player we now desperately and let him walk out the door.    Swap jones with Young last week and we likely win. Massive c0ckup.

Geelong and Richmond to name a few both have/had players on there list charged with a serious crime but they do what is best for there team and supporters and work around the situation until the know the result.

We play judge and jury and lose a player we couldn't afford to lose but on the flip side we are expected to full support a player with a drug and say we all need to support them and wrap our arms around them.

Double standards.


Comparing supporting someone with an addiction, let's say, and someone who refuses to be vaccinated based on a conspiracy theory is like comparing a bicycle with a fish (thank you Irina Dunn and/or Gloria Steinham).

And suggesting we would have been better off last night with Jones instead of Young... holy mackerel... maybe if we had Doull instead of Jones, or Southby, or SOS or... Drawing on a really long bow there, Shawny, maybe a bow a few kilometres long!
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #87 –
Swap Jones for Young against hawthorn and take him out of dogs and into our team this week and would likely be different result. Seriously guys do you want to win a flag or not. We needed him we had him and we let him walk out the door.

But then we agree to still take E hollands when he was found guilty with a bag of coke over a clean young player with no records

And is now missing games……..

so all those who wee happy with the Jones decision must be livid with the E Hollands acquisition and must hate the fact the club is saying we all need to support him.

He also put himself his teammates didn't he?

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #88 –
Quote from: Baggers – on

Comparing supporting someone with an addiction, let's say, and someone who refuses to be vaccinated based on a conspiracy theory is like comparing a bicycle with a fish (thank you Irina Dunn and/or Gloria Steinham).

And suggesting we would have been better off last night with Jones instead of Young... holy mackerel... maybe if we had Doull instead of Jones, or Southby, or SOS or... Drawing on a really long bow there, Shawny, maybe a bow a few kilometres long!

I think that’s right Baggers. Anti-vaxxers don’t have a condition. They simply need to listen to folks with years of relevant training and not bloody Joe Rogan, RFK Jr, Mel Gibson et al.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #89 –
Jones and Carlton had to comply with the regulations of the time, the problem as I see it was that the AFL didn't offer suitable / sensible compensation.

I'm not sure Jones offers more than Weitering, yet it must have been soul destroying to Weiters, he must have felt deserted!

We have been butchering the ball for 6 months now, but not so much our D50 crew, I doubt Jones would improve that record if added to D50, at least from what I remember of him in navy blue, certain forum members bemoaned his chaos and poor efficiency including me, I wonder who else had if we made the search! ;)
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