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Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #90 –
They have shot Bambi. Good on them.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #91 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
It's a big call.  Could be game defining.  Docherty is generally a player on our team i label as reliable.

The fact he hasn't been thus far this season is neither here nor there as the rest of the team has been similar, but im not convinced it's the right reign to pull.


Funny how 8-12 months ago many were crying about his absence and how much we missed him. Now we are happy to bin him like a piece of off meat. Father Time doesnt fark around I guess.
There are only so many knee injuries you can recover from and keep your pace and strength. Had he not done his knee, he wouldn't be dropped. As it is, he has done just so much to come back and come back and come back. He certainly isn't a bad player, and his leadership will be more than welcome at VFL level this week.
I can hope that, with more time, he might recover enough to be the player he was, but I doubt it is going to occur.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #92 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
It's a big call.  Could be game defining.  Docherty is generally a player on our team i label as reliable.

The fact he hasn't been thus far this season is neither here nor there as the rest of the team has been similar, but im not convinced it's the right reign to pull.


Funny how 8-12 months ago many were crying about his absence and how much we missed him. Now we are happy to bin him like a piece of off meat. Father Time doesnt fark around I guess.

Thought he was good last week but perhaps was judged on all 5 games.
Acres has been terrible too so perhaps they don't want them in the same team.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #93 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Funny how 8-12 months ago many were crying about his absence and how much we missed him. Now we are happy to bin him like a piece of off meat. Father Time doesnt fark around I guess.

Thought he was good last week but perhaps was judged on all 5 games.
Acres has been terrible too so perhaps they don't want them in the same team.

Agree, I thought Doc started find his touch again, also agree on Acres, has been awful but his big body is a welcome addition (providing he puts in on the line bit).
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #94 –
Our line-up:

B:  1 Jack Silvagni  23 Jacob Weitering  26 Nick Haynes
HB: 42 Adam Saad  11 Mitch McGovern  4 Oliver Hollands
C:  13 Blake Acres  9 Patrick Cripps  32 Matthew Carroll
HF:  20 Elijah Hollands  33 Lewis Young  8 Lachie Fogarty
F:  3 Jesse Motlop  30 Charlie Curnow  6 Zac Williams
R:  12 Tom De Koning  29 George Hewett  5 Adam Cerra
Int:  46 Matthew Cottrell  18 Sam Walsh  19 Corey Durdin  36 Cooper Lord  38 Will White

Em: 37 Jordan Boyd  27 Marc Pittonet  15 Sam Docherty

[1] I would have played Pittonet rather than Young, especially as Xerri is supposed to be less than perfect. Tom can play forward and take a mark, while Pitto can defend better than Tom has so far. Young is not a great ruckman, although has done reasonably as a forward (against the Dogs). Considering that we were trialling Pitto resting forwards pre-season, who doesn't tend to get out-marked, I feel we've missed something here.
Nichevo. But I think this is another case of our MC not maximizing our chances.
[2] I can understand why Doc has been dropped. His opponents have been important players and he has struggled to make an impact. Acres coming in means someone had to come out.
[3] As much as I like Elijah coming in, as his disposal is superior, coming in to replace a forward like Kemp does reduce our marking potential in the forward line. Elijah isn't a marking target.
Last year Comben took marks and almost won the game because we didn't have a tall matchup for him. To be honest, I think we've made the same mistake. At least Silvagni can defend better than Young can.
Live Long and Prosper!
 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #95 –
Im good with Doc being dropped - I also think he can get back to his inspirational best. Class is permanent.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #96 –
So the three emergency's are Boyd, Pittonet and Docherty.

I thought to myself "I'd have all three in my side this week."
Then I went and looked at the side...and I was kind of stumped who to leave out so they could play.
Pittonet instead of Young came to mind.
Boyd's disposal is better than Acres, and I wouldn't mind seeing Boyd on a wing for a game or two.
That left Docherty...and I couldn't find a spot. :(

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #97 –
Pittonet needs to play VFL.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #98 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Pittonet needs to play VFL.
Agree, he cannot be match fit.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #99 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Pittonet needs to play VFL.
Agree, he cannot be match fit.

Since when has that mattered ?
They get them fit post injury, and if a first 22 player, they come straight in, you know that.
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #100 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
It's a big call.  Could be game defining.  Docherty is generally a player on our team i label as reliable.

The fact he hasn't been thus far this season is neither here nor there as the rest of the team has been similar, but im not convinced it's the right reign to pull.


Funny how 8-12 months ago many were crying about his absence and how much we missed him. Now we are happy to bin him like a piece of off meat. Father Time doesnt fark around I guess.

Agree. if he injured in R1 we would be using it as an excuse.

king Charles was our biggest excuse last year to losing games when he was out injured. it was like he was worth 4 goals a game to us.

Done SFA this year so far but now the reason we are poor is losing Newman Harry and a bloke who hasnt even played one game yet.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #101 –
I'd like to see the club at least try to use Pittonet the way the Pies use Mason Cox. Close to the goal square, it's not unreasonable to believe he should be able to stretch his arms higher than the defenders, perhaps even draw a free or two as the defenders panic and grab arms, jumper etc. Then he can provide ruck relief and switch with De Koning in the forward line as required. The Pies seem to get a couple of cheap goals using Cox in this manner. Worth a shot IMO.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #102 –
Named as an emergency seems something of a waste IMO.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #103 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I'd like to see the club at least try to use Pittonet the way the Pies use Mason Cox. Close to the goal square, it's not unreasonable to believe he should be able to stretch his arms higher than the defenders, perhaps even draw a free or two as the defenders panic and grab arms, jumper etc. Then he can provide ruck relief and switch with De Koning in the forward line as required. The Pies seem to get a couple of cheap goals using Cox in this manner. Worth a shot IMO.

Couldn't possibly agree with you more, Pauly.

Remember this is an MC that brought in a swathe of not match fit players for our first final against BrisVegas last year... especially Doc, who hadn't played all year! Bringing in Young as a stop-gap tall forward and stop-gap ruckman defies logic when set against previous decisions, and the fact you've got a specialist ruckman ready to go. Oh, the inconsistency.

Seems we have an inflexible template and just shove blokes into the template, regardless.

I'd choose a needing match fitness Pitto over Young any day of the week, to park himself up forward then give TDK ruck relief. An important distinction also is that Pitto brings strength and a dash of mongrel to contests and about the last thing you want with Young is for him to have ball in hand - instant confusion as he takes so much time deciding what to do.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 6 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne Good Friday

Reply #104 –
I don't wish to give the impression that I know more than the MC, or that they got it wrong. I'm sure their access to data is comprehensive and their reasoning is quite sound. I would be curious to see and hear the thought process vs the fans perspective from time to time.