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Lewis Young

They say tall players can take longer to develop and I think this is Young's ninth season since he made his AFL debut with the Dogs but, with our current list of injuries, he seems to be making a greater contribution than at any time other than his first season with the Blues.

He might not become anything more than a useful depth player (as a defender or desperation ruck option) but recent coaching seems to have developed or unlocked some previously undiscovered skills - especially as a tall forward. 

He has looked slow when playing in defence and trying to mind an opponent but he now seems quicker when he initiates a lead and he has shown some skill in putting his body in the way to create space for teammates.

The couple of times he has been omitted this season seem to have been to accommodate a better player or for team balance, rather than because he failed to play his part.  At 202 cm and still a relatively young player (no pun intended), it will be interesting to see if he can continue to improve and establish himself as a regular player.

Re: Lewis Young

Reply #1 –
He was our best performer in the first half vs Adelaide i thought.  Competing well.

His move to defense brought back panic merchant Lewis and i think asking him to go forward and compete relieves pressure in a way that playing in defence doesn't.
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Reply #2 –
He clunked everything in his first year with us, if he can recapture some of the form and confidence, he will be very handy for us.
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Reply #3 –
Lewis youngs biggest enemy is his listed height.

As a result he has been played as a Key defender, key forward and a ruck. He is rather average at all.

However, if he is a 3rd.....any of them, he is very good.

He doesn't do well with physical contact, and with his height, he is always asked to play on the biggest and baddest....which has hurt him.
He did play some blinders a few years ago, but they seem to be few and far between. However, the emergence of Jack along with the fitness of Weiters, Charlie and Harry means the pressure is off Young to perform. So he is.

Still not sure he plays when we have a fit Kemp, Gov etc, but he deserves a spot on the list.

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Reply #4 –
He's been servicable this year, and he gives us options.
One of the things I'd like to see is him do is moving the ball on a little quicker.
He'll often take possession and hold up a quick movement giving the opposition time to cover.
He seems to be looking for the safe option, a little afraid to make an error.
It's a confidence thing.
Safe is good, but it often stops a strong forward movement.

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Reply #5 –
Not a player I have a lot of trust in, his height makes him handy as he can play several positions which is a plus but much like the entire club you are not sure what version of him you are going to get each week, ie the first year version where he was a great player and looked to have cemented a place in the team down back in that 2nd key defender role or the version we have seen more often in recent seasons where his attack on the ball has been poor, fumbly marking attempts or a sloth like lethargy that doesnt even enable him to make many contests and where he has looked to avoid any physical contact even vs much smaller players. Lucky for him we have zero in reserve to challenge for a senior position in terms of tall Kp players and he will have more opportunities to prove his worth but I'll need to see a lot more consistency in effort before I have complete faith in him.

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Reply #6 –
Quote from: Lods – on
He's been servicable this year, and he gives us options.
One of the things I'd like to see is him do is moving the ball on a little quicker.
He'll often take possession and hold up a quick movement giving the opposition time to cover.
He seems to be looking for the safe option, a little afraid to make an error.
It's a confidence thing.
Safe is good, but it often stops a strong forward movement.

That momentary delay from possession to disposal is my only real criticism of Young.  He is a very good mark, he generally kills the ball when he spoils and he rarely loses aerial contests.  He’s not quite as reliable when the ball hits the ground but not many 200cm blokes are nimble.

Someone must have done a power of work on his goal kicking once he became a KPF option and Jordan Russell deserves credit for giving Lewis running patterns that complement Charlie and Harry.  Similarly, Matty Kreuzer must have put in a heap of work to teach Young basic ruck work. He hasn’t been competitive in the ruck prior to this season.

Playing Harry in the ruck is good for Harry and his ruck work is respectable.  Having another competent genuine ruck-sized backup ruckman to spell Tom and Harry makes us less predictable and keeps the pressure on opposition rucks.

It seems that Lewis took his exit interview feedback seriously and has worked hard to get the MC to take him seriously.

Having a 202cm, 100kg KPP who can play forward, back and ruck is invaluable.  Young may miss out when we’ve got a full list to choose from, but he won’t be out of the MC’s considerations.
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Reply #7 –
Given his form this year,  I reckon he's a keeper.  

In my mind, he offers more than Pittonet, 

I don't think we can go into too many games with TDK, Harry and Pittonet in the team.   
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Reply #8 –
If TDK was out you would not want to be 1st rucking Young, or worse still 1st Rucking BigH and running him into the ground.
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Reply #9 –
Quote from: LP – on
If TDK was out you would not want to be 1st rucking Young, or worse still 1st Rucking BigH and running him into the ground.

You could ruck Young if necessary.  His ruckwork has improved significantly since his lacklustre efforts last season and, at worst, Kreuzer could equip him to nullify the opposition ruckman.  Our midfielders are good enough to rove to a break even or losing ruck.

Using Young as our first ruck may be a "break glass in an emergency" situation but it means that we won't be using Harry.  Of course, Skull is developing very well and would now be competitive against AFL ruckmen.
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Reply #10 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: LP – on
If TDK was out you would not want to be 1st rucking Young, or worse still 1st Rucking BigH and running him into the ground.

You could ruck Young if necessary.  His ruckwork has improved significantly since his lacklustre efforts last season and, at worst, Kreuzer could equip him to nullify the opposition ruckman.  Our midfielders are good enough to rove to a break even or losing ruck.

Using Young as our first ruck may be a "break glass in an emergency" situation but it means that we won't be using Harry.  Of course, Skull is developing very well and would now be competitive against AFL ruckmen.

In terms of ruck ability/output.
TDK/Pittonet
Harry/Jack/Cripps
Okeefe/Lemmey/Kennedy (yes i know he's not with us anymore)
...
Young

He is not a 1st choice, 2nd choice/6th choice ruck.

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Reply #11 –
Lemmey :))  :))

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Reply #12 –
He's giving us more value than some of our small forwards so may as well leave him up there. He gets the 3rd best defender, which must help.

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Reply #13 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: DJC – on


You could ruck Young if necessary.  His ruckwork has improved significantly since his lacklustre efforts last season and, at worst, Kreuzer could equip him to nullify the opposition ruckman.  Our midfielders are good enough to rove to a break even or losing ruck.

Using Young as our first ruck may be a "break glass in an emergency" situation but it means that we won't be using Harry.  Of course, Skull is developing very well and would now be competitive against AFL ruckmen.

In terms of ruck ability/output.
TDK/Pittonet
Harry/Jack/Cripps
Okeefe/Lemmey/Kennedy (yes i know he's not with us anymore)
...
Young

He is not a 1st choice, 2nd choice/6th choice ruck.


That was true in previous years, but he's doing better this year.

He's at worst ahead of your 3rd line and possibly a better ruckman than Harry.
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Paul Hewson