AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

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Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #15 – June 21, 2025, 06:12:18 pm

Thought Nth beat us up in the contest and in particular the midfield, I don't count the last quarter as it was junk time and Nth are an inexperienced team so were always going to tighten up and take the foot off the gas. We looked super slow, soft at the contest and lacking leadership.
Curnow can't be bothered, TDK looked like his mind was somewhere else and even Cripps looked fed up with such poor effort from his team.
Might not need a full rebuild but we need a savage reset, we are slowly falling behind younger rebuild teams and need an influx of speed and elite kicking skills across most lines.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #16 – June 21, 2025, 06:24:33 pm

I reckon I watched 5 to 10 mins of the game so I cant judge too much about what we did or didn't do. The snippets that I did catch however:
- We were second to the ball at every contest
- North seemed hungrier to win contests
- I caught Voss absolutely giving it to them at 3/4 time.
I think I saw 3 or 4 of the 6 in row that they kicked which is unforgivable.

For those interested, our salamis came up a treat.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #17 – June 21, 2025, 06:28:39 pm

Was actually not wanting us to win in the last -
Did not deserve it.

Not sure who coaches what but:

1. Handballs should not be loping slow passes, they create room for the other team to get to the contest;

2. Loping slow kicks - see above.

3. Tackles should stick. Wrapping yourself around a player but still letting the opp get a handball away - again and again and again - is NOT sticking a tackle.

4. Kicking out directly to OPP For them to kick a goal - not good.

5. Not leading not running not contesting -
Fail.

The more I think of that game the angrier I get. I hate hearing our supporters boo us and when the 10% that stayed til the end did that, it hurts
My soul a bit because some of those players do care.

Also why do we fall over so much and why do we mishandle the ball so often. Seems either deliberate or —-/ not sure.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #18 – June 21, 2025, 06:28:49 pm

Media blaming Voss, but nobody can fix our TDK, Pitto, Cripps, Cerra, Hewett, lead midfield gets it's ar5e handed to it by babies, we barely touched the footy for 1-1/2 quarters. That is despite being delivered the footy to advantage multiple times more than Norp, which in the negative might be the most useful measure of midfield performance?

Anyone reading the stats a year or two from now will think today's game was evenly matched, which is just a pure demonstration of how sh1t some stats really are!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #19 – June 21, 2025, 06:31:04 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on June 21, 2025, 06:24:33 pm

I reckon I watched 5 to 10 mins of the game so I cant judge too much about what we did or didn't do. The snippets that I did catch however:
- We were second to the ball at every contest
- North seemed hungrier to win contests
- I caught Voss absolutely giving it to them at 3/4 time.
I think I saw 3 or 4 of the 6 in row that they kicked which is unforgivable.

For those interested, our salamis came up a treat.

Voss seemed pissed off! FKING GOOD! Get angry and fck off any players that is not buying in properly. Make TDK make a decision now and if he’s gone, okay fine, VFL for rest of the year!

Get real Carlton!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #20 – June 21, 2025, 06:32:47 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on June 21, 2025, 06:12:18 pm

Thought Nth beat us up in the contest and in particular the midfield, I don't count the last quarter as it was junk time and Nth are an inexperienced team so were always going to tighten up and take the foot off the gas. We looked super slow, soft at the contest and lacking leadership.
Curnow can't be bothered, TDK looked like his mind was somewhere else and even Cripps looked fed up with such poor effort from his team.
Might not need a full rebuild but we need a savage reset, we are slowly falling behind younger rebuild teams and need an influx of speed and elite kicking skills across most lines.

A bit of run can just take a few tweaks a few slower ones out and a couple of runners brought in. Then need a coach who can make the most of it. O'd start to look at Cripps at being forward alot longer as he gets older. He's be a tough match up. TDK will likely go so we'll likely have a first pick, Jagga Smith will be good to go next year and a couple of F/S/Academy players, whom are looking great will hopefully come in too next year. Billy Wilson, who is playing well and has real speed, and Ben Campo in now given the season is done. Get ourselves some run. The best run we've had in a game was when we had 19 players out last year, albeit against the Eagles. We were forced to play them.

All that doesn't matter right now as once again, our attitude and committment stinks to high heaven. A coach at Carlton is only good for a few years until the players get sick of his voice. We've rebuilt, changed the side many times over for years and the attitude still stinks. With a new coach we'll be committed for a year so best have the right coach, have the right players and the right structure to take advantage of a very short window before his voice become boring again to the players. A sad thing to say unfortunately, but that's our lot for which we pay good money for with our membership.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #21 – June 21, 2025, 06:34:07 pm

Can't stand being bullied by sides, especially *****g Norf. Pathetic.
Big fan of Acres but sorry, your kicking is woeful and we can't carry you any more. Same for Saad...if you can't cover a man, make way for someone who can. Tap on the shoulder time I reckon.
Time to blood new wingers and half backs.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #22 – June 21, 2025, 06:38:17 pm

I fear time is up for Doc and Saad, it's not that they don't compete or give their all, it's they just don't have time or space to use it anymore.

Too many hot potato disposals and often from standing dead still, the basics are gone, not even a small sidestep from standing from either of them, just slow flat footed disposals that either miss a target or broadcast the intended target to the opposition. Disposals that do not hurt opposition.

If we are going to make hard calls, these are the calls that must be made, the tail won't like it but the tail can't be wagging the dog!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #23 – June 21, 2025, 07:07:21 pm

Saad is playing tired old man football.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #24 – June 21, 2025, 07:07:29 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on June 21, 2025, 06:24:33 pm

I reckon I watched 5 to 10 mins of the game so I cant judge too much about what we did or didn't do. The snippets that I did catch however:
- We were second to the ball at every contest
- North seemed hungrier to win contests
- I caught Voss absolutely giving it to them at 3/4 time.
I think I saw 3 or 4 of the 6 in row that they kicked which is unforgivable.

For those interested, our salamis came up a treat.

Tease.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #25 – June 21, 2025, 07:08:53 pm

Quote from: Micky0 – on June 21, 2025, 06:31:04 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on June 21, 2025, 06:24:33 pm
I reckon I watched 5 to 10 mins of the game so I cant judge too much about what we did or didn't do. The snippets that I did catch however:
- We were second to the ball at every contest
- North seemed hungrier to win contests
- I caught Voss absolutely giving it to them at 3/4 time.
I think I saw 3 or 4 of the 6 in row that they kicked which is unforgivable.

For those interested, our salamis came up a treat.
Voss seemed pissed off! FKING GOOD! Get angry and fck off any players that is not buying in properly. Make TDK make a decision now and if he’s gone, okay fine, VFL for rest of the year!

Get real Carlton!

He wouldnt field a side.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #26 – June 21, 2025, 07:09:40 pm

Quote from: Professer E – on June 21, 2025, 07:07:21 pm

Saad is playing tired old man football.

He copped a whack today and was down for an extended period.

I reckon i've seen that from him at least 4 times this season.

He has either been carrying something all year, or his body is failing him.

Not sure we have anyone who can take over his role, but haven't seen a player that wins vs father time, and he might be losing that battle.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #27 – June 21, 2025, 07:11:51 pm

See if Carroll, Wilson or Cowan can do the role, because Saad isn't right now.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #28 – June 21, 2025, 07:15:02 pm

Quote from: Professer E – on June 21, 2025, 06:34:07 pm

Can't stand being bullied by sides, especially *****g Norf. Pathetic.
Big fan of Acres but sorry, your kicking is woeful and we can't carry you any more. Same for Saad...if you can't cover a man, make way for someone who can. Tap on the shoulder time I reckon.
Time to blood new wingers and half backs.

And no push-back from our boys. Even in the Magoos game when one of our blokes was 'dealt with' just about the entire squad ran in to remonstrate. The Irish lad, Monahan, was front and centre.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record... Again... Mentally not strong enough. Meek. Nice. As soon as the Kangabies brought strong body pressure - shizened the bed. And it aint a one-off, been the same for a couple of years now.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #29 – June 21, 2025, 07:24:07 pm

So much I'd like to comment on but couldn't be stuffed. It'd be the same gear I've been banging on about for around 18 months. All I'll say is that no-one could possibly be surprised at today's result. Just a bunch of individuals, with ordinary leadership.