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Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #30 –
Four years on the job with this list and still speaking about small steps and best and worst is too far apart must be a joke.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #31 –
Quote from: pinot – on
Four years on the job with this list and still speaking about small steps and best and worst is too far apart must be a joke.

He is right about the 'best' and 'worst' difference.
It's his job to solve it.
And at the moment it looks beyond him, because it's become an almost weekly pattern.

On the game...
Too much 'Flash' and not enough 'Crash'


Beaten up by a group of young'uns.
It just seemed when the going got a bit hard we didn't want to get down and dirty.

As I said in the 'in-game thread...
I actually now think it goes a bit beyond what we're seeing on-field.
I suspect there may be issues with coaches and players, players and players, coaches and coaches.
Not just the normal internal-club stuff but serious rifts and differences of opinion

We play like a group of individuals rather than a team.
The effort and intensity we saw in the second half of 2023 seems to have disappeared.
There is a difference in our best and worst that is just incomprehensible.
It's actually 'Twilight Zone' stuff.
At quarter time our players head off into a different dimension.
At least they came back for the last quarter. ::)
But that wouldn't have happened against any teams contending.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #32 –
Quote from: Lods – on
He is right about the 'best' and 'worst' difference.
It's his job to solve it.

Has he been able to choose his assistants? Not sure either way.
I'd give him the off-season to hand pick who he wants to work with and if he can't get something better than what we produced today, then we've exhausted all our options.

Should leave no stone left unturned in a bid to help him out.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #33 –
There is nothing that can be said that has not already been said.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #34 –
This is a form and execution thing though.  Its like quicksand.  The harder you struggle the worse it gets.  In a way, I'm looking forward to the pressure release of no longer having much to play for.  We've been in that spot for nigh on 2.5 years where every week was "crucial".  We never really got any clean air, and the constant pressure to win is something that can cause the exact fluctuations and execution issue that we are seeing.

Particularly with a list that seems to be half playing for their lives.  Some of them know they're in the gun, makes it hard to give your best account of yourself.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
 

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #35 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Can't stand being bullied by sides, especially *****g Norf. Pathetic.
Big fan of Acres but sorry, your kicking is woeful and we can't carry you any more.   Same for  Saad...if you can't cover a man, make way for someone who can.  Tap on the shoulder time I reckon.
Time to blood new wingers and half backs.
Agree...got annoyed with Nths kids pushing our blokes after a teammate had won a contest and sticking it to our players. Curtis in particular likes letting the  opposition know when they are playing poorly and we took it without a whimper of resistance. Watched a bit of Saints v Pies tonight and Nick Daicos getting manhandled by his tagger and the Pies at every opportunity give it toWindhager and let him know they won't put up with any crap from him against their star mid.
We just lack effort and spirit and it's sad to see...

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #36 –
The critical questions...
Do we persist with Voss or not? Do we blow it up and start again?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #37 –
Going by the scores, we won 2 qtrs (1st and last) and managed to hold them scoreless in the final term. Thats positive right?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #39 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Going by the scores, we won 2 qtrs (1st and last) and managed to hold them scoreless in the final term. Thats positive right?
No...they are a rebuild kiddie team, you don't lose quarters or games to kiddie teams. We had plenty to play for and were pathetic, junk time goals don't count.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #40 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Professer E – on
Can't stand being bullied by sides, especially *****g Norf. Pathetic.
Big fan of Acres but sorry, your kicking is woeful and we can't carry you any more.   Same for  Saad...if you can't cover a man, make way for someone who can.  Tap on the shoulder time I reckon.
Time to blood new wingers and half backs.
Agree...got annoyed with Nths kids pushing our blokes after a teammate had won a contest and sticking it to our players. Curtis in particular likes letting the  opposition know when they are playing poorly and we took it without a whimper of resistance. Watched a bit of Saints v Pies tonight and Nick Daicos getting manhandled by his tagger and the Pies at every opportunity give it toWindhager and let him know they won't put up with any crap from him against their star mid.
We just lack effort and spirit and it's sad to see...

Xerri put TDK into the fence and nothing from his mates.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #41 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Agree...got annoyed with Nths kids pushing our blokes after a teammate had won a contest and sticking it to our players. Curtis in particular likes letting the  opposition know when they are playing poorly and we took it without a whimper of resistance. Watched a bit of Saints v Pies tonight and Nick Daicos getting manhandled by his tagger and the Pies at every opportunity give it toWindhager and let him know they won't put up with any crap from him against their star mid.
We just lack effort and spirit and it's sad to see...

Xerri put TDK into the fence and nothing from his mates.
He's a StK player.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #42 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

Agree...got annoyed with Nths kids pushing our blokes after a teammate had won a contest and sticking it to our players. Curtis in particular likes letting the  opposition know when they are playing poorly and we took it without a whimper of resistance. Watched a bit of Saints v Pies tonight and Nick Daicos getting manhandled by his tagger and the Pies at every opportunity give it toWindhager and let him know they won't put up with any crap from him against their star mid.
We just lack effort and spirit and it's sad to see...

Xerri put TDK into the fence and nothing from his mates.
It's a lack of team spirit and care for your teammates, the good teams have it and it's a non negotiable imo.
Why would a young player want to come to Carlton when you see stuff like that..?

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #43 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
The critical questions...
Do we persist with Voss or not? Do we blow it up and start again?

IMO,  those questions were being asked too often during the second half of last season;   after R1 of this year the answers became very obvious..    Yes he has to go,  so do large parts of our list and our totally inept recruiting dept.   Despite the excuses some of the die hard fans here like to whip out week after week,   huge changes have to be made or we will be wallowing with the Weagles for the next 2-4 yrs.   Wrighty has a huge task ahead of him.    Mediocrity has become the standard at this club unfortunately.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2025 Post-Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #44 –
I did say North at $4 was crazy odds pre game.

im not in the camp that we only need minor changes. Come on guys we have had one decent win all year the rest were against teams not playing in sept. We are miles absolutely miles off the best teams.

We need major changes on all levels -coaching and on field to improve and even then i cant see this list ever competing with the very best teams. We have little to no depth, have several overrated so called stars and big holes on every line that never seem to be addressed.

Big offseason coming folks.