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Quote from: Lods – on July 25, 2025, 12:24:16 pm

On a positive note we do have some "Emerald Sprouts" in our under 21 contingent.
The thing with young'uns is they have to develop consistency.
That often takes a year or three.
You won't see it every game.
You won't necessarily see it every quarter of a game.
It might be two players 'shining' one week, a different two another week.
Until they've spent some years playing together and develop that 'team' understanding we may not see the best of them.

It wasn't so long ago I was a bit apprehensive about the future and thought we were putting too much emphasis on the present and not planning for the years AC (after Cripps)... and the Four Horsemen of the 2015 draft.
That seems to have changed quite a bit.
We're not looking too bad when these kids get a few years and games under their belt.

I'm very wary of a few things when evaluating our kids.

1. Its their first year and that usually gets them more freedom - eg Hollands dominated his 1st year, went missing a bit in his second.
Is it sustainable or is simply because opposition players don't know what to expect from then yet and can't plan for them. Sample size not big enough.

2. Is there room to grow.
Will White, Matt Carroll, Cooper Lord, Corey Durdin, Flynn Young etc. They are all, somewhat, performing a role that you could consider AFL worthy.....mostly.
However, how much better can they get? What exactly are they good at? What are they elite at? Lord and Carroll look like they belong the most, but i'm still not sold on them long term. At or above expectations now. Will they take another step? Can they??

3. Similar to #2, but with different players.
HOK, HOF and Moir. They all need to put on a bit more size to compete at the level long term. IMO, they all have some attributes that make them elite though.  HOKs speed/agility for his size is rare. HOFs marking is elite. Moir clearly has x-factor. Can they keep this up long term with a bit more size and can they do that while carrying niggles like every other AFL footballer who plays each week?

There are promising signs, absolutely, but its a far cry from having a bunch of AA talent in the works.

as predicted long bombs into f50 and away goes hawks Trouble is not last  night game but the last 2 F>>K>N years thats why it is so disappointing  Voss and Co have failed

Quote from: Baggers – on July 25, 2025, 10:24:16 am

Glad Charles silenced the gossipers.

Only because he was caught out and was told to. He and his management aren't very clever at all.

I can't see how Austin survives unless Lloyd gets the blame for his list management decisions.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 25, 2025, 11:47:57 am

Only because he was caught out and was told to. He and his management aren't very clever at all.

100% correct

Quote from: pertz – on July 25, 2025, 03:54:14 pm

100% correct

how is Charlie at fault for the initial rumour and after categorically retracting he is also at fault for looking to begin with?


Seems very hypocritical when its likely a pretend rumour.

Quote from: kruddler – on July 25, 2025, 02:28:51 pm

I'm very wary of a few things when evaluating our kids.

1. Its their first year and that usually gets them more freedom - eg Hollands dominated his 1st year, went missing a bit in his second.
Is it sustainable or is simply because opposition players don't know what to expect from then yet and can't plan for them. Sample size not big enough.

2. Is there room to grow.
Will White, Matt Carroll, Cooper Lord, Corey Durdin, Flynn Young etc. They are all, somewhat, performing a role that you could consider AFL worthy.....mostly.
However, how much better can they get? What exactly are they good at? What are they elite at? Lord and Carroll look like they belong the most, but i'm still not sold on them long term. At or above expectations now. Will they take another step? Can they??

3. Similar to #2, but with different players.
HOK, HOF and Moir. They all need to put on a bit more size to compete at the level long term. IMO, they all have some attributes that make them elite though.  HOKs speed/agility for his size is rare. HOFs marking is elite. Moir clearly has x-factor. Can they keep this up long term with a bit more size and can they do that while carrying niggles like every other AFL footballer who plays each week?

There are promising signs, absolutely, but its a far cry from having a bunch of AA talent in the works.

They may not all make it.
But it's probably likely that given their age, they all have a bit of improvement ahead of them, and will benefit from time together.

I think when we're looking to do a bit of a cull the focus should now be on the older group rather than the young contingent.

where theres smoke…….

a lot on here also said the TDK would re sign.

The Dawks embraced, wholeheartedly, the role of villains to spoil our party. They came to win. We came to celebrate two champs.