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Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #60 –
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Quote from: Baggers – on
The Dawks embraced, wholeheartedly, the role of villains to spoil our party. They came to win. We came to celebrate two champs.
Seen that movie before under Clarko.

Yep. Watching the Midgets and Fluffy Ducks game last night, we saw real toughness and hardness. Kinda amplifies just how nice we are. We're the pin-up club for 'sociable' footy. I still find it so difficult to understand how such a tough and uncompromising player -- Voss -- can preside over such an agreeable playing culture.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #61 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
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Seen that movie before under Clarko.

Yep. Watching the Midgets and Fluffy Ducks game last night, we saw real toughness and hardness. Kinda amplifies just how nice we are. We're the pin-up club for 'sociable' footy. I still find it so difficult to understand how such a tough and uncompromising player -- Voss -- can preside over such an agreeable playing culture.
We were just watching a clip of Greene elbowing someone on the ground and getting away with it and said there’s no one in our team that does that type of thing - oh except Boyd! Who they won’t play!

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #62 –
We don't know what Voss says behind closed doors, but if he's not fussing about niggle and faux tough stuff, it's probably because it has little to do with winning, unlike say kicking straight, or hand balling straight, or sticking tackles etc. Fix those issues, and it gives you a spring in your step and extra bravado.

Voss is in his 4th year. If it bothered him that much, he would've recruited accordingly.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #63 –
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Yep. Watching the Midgets and Fluffy Ducks game last night, we saw real toughness and hardness. Kinda amplifies just how nice we are. We're the pin-up club for 'sociable' footy. I still find it so difficult to understand how such a tough and uncompromising player -- Voss -- can preside over such an agreeable playing culture.
We were just watching a clip of Greene elbowing someone on the ground and getting away with it and said there’s no one in our team that does that type of thing - oh except Boyd! Who they won’t play!

McGovern and Newman can and do but like Pauly says there’s a few other priority’s…
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #64 –
Its interesting how much Jordan boyds reputation has grown simply by not playing.

He is very much like matt Carroll but a bit shorter.  Might have a touch more leg speed, but nothing express.

He wasn't Fraser Brown either he just defends better than most of our other loose defenders.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #65 –
Absolutely agree there are a lot of other issues that need focus beforw worrying too much about the guys that will niggle etc.

Sure Boyd might have some deficiencies but he has SOMETHING imo That you can’t pinpoint - Cowan has the same something but obvs has more of what they need.

Not saying Boyd is the answer to our woes at all but just see him as someone that could be very beneficial for us - he has a spring in his step, a confidence about himself.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #66 –
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Quote from: Micky0 – on

We were just watching a clip of Greene elbowing someone on the ground and getting away with it and said there’s no one in our team that does that type of thing - oh except Boyd! Who they won’t play!

McGovern and Newman can and do but like Pauly says there’s a few other priority’s…
MCG also is unreliable in other aspects of his game. I liked him but I just don’t feel confident at all when he has the ball. 

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #67 –
Voss was never dirty as a player just hard at the contest and the man.
The Scott bros, Martin Pike, Mal Michael, Jono Brown took care of the intimidation and protection business.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #68 –
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Quote from: Baggers – on
The Dawks embraced, wholeheartedly, the role of villains to spoil our party. They came to win. We came to celebrate two champs.
Seen that movie before under Clarko.

I will never forget that game when Buddy and Fev were both going for their 100 goals and Clarko threw everyone on Fev to ensure he didn’t get it. Absolute prick. He was a ruthless operator and tbh Im not sure Mitchell is as much of a prick because Clarko would’ve drummed into his boys to bury us completely in this game but imo they took their foot off the gas and did just what they needed to.
 

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #69 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Voss was never dirty as a player just hard at the contest and the man.
The Scott bros, Martin Pike, Mal Michael
Jono Brown took care of the intimidation and protection business.
That group was as brutal and ruthless a playing group as I have ever seen. Intimidation factor was off the charts, they had you beat before you even ran out. Best midfield group I have seen also led by Voss Power Black Lappin Aker McRae Ashcroft and cameos by some more than adequate support staff. That midfield hurt by kicking goals also.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #70 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
We were just watching a clip of Greene elbowing someone on the ground and getting away with it and said there’s no one in our team that does that type of thing - oh except Boyd! Who they won’t play!

Micky, you may note with some interest this act has caught the attention of the MRO :

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/greater-western-sydney-giants/afl-news-2025-toby-greene-fox-footy-interview-cheeky-dig-at-overweight-tom-papley-hit-on-isaac-heeney-mro-results/news-story/fde93191a562d259f3ff4ff4f206ba31

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #71 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Voss was never dirty as a player just hard at the contest and the man.
The Scott bros, Martin Pike, Mal Michael
Jono Brown took care of the intimidation and protection business.
That group was as brutal and ruthless a playing group as I have ever seen. Intimidation factor was off the charts, they had you beat before you even ran out. Best midfield group I have seen also led by Voss Power Black Lappin Aker McRae Ashcroft and cameos by some more than adequate support staff. That midfield hurt by kicking goals also.
Agree....nearly won four premierships in a row and it was brutality with a high level of skill which is probably the best football I have seen from any team ever on such a consistent basis.
Voss was probably one of the best captains I have seen as well and led from the front, it must be hard for him trying to understand why players he coaches cant be at the level he was in terms of consistency and will to win at all costs.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #72 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Agree....nearly won four premierships in a row and it was brutality with a high level of skill which is probably the best football I have seen from any team ever on such a consistent basis.
Voss was probably one of the best captains I have seen as well and led from the front, it must be hard for him trying to understand why players he coaches cant be at the level he was in terms of consistency and will to win at all costs.
Yep. They learnt how to win and never looked back, we have learnt how to lose over the decades and that's now the norm.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #73 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Fancy letting Docherty get pushed around in his last game.

There's the headline. I have nothing to add about the game  or the season for that matter.

Thanks Doc. Your a proud professional 👏🏼
Congratulations Weiters 👏🏼
Keep up the development kids

As is the Carlton way in the history of AFL, eyes forward to next year. Blues blues
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #74 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
The Dawks embraced, wholeheartedly, the role of villains to spoil our party. They came to win. We came to celebrate two champs.

We come to celebrate a lot of things. Maximising the privileged position an AFL club has to educate the public is valuable. No doubt. I personally would like to see on field physical/mental endeavours mastered.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.