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Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #60
Confirmed HOF has done his ACL 😭

Poor kid!
Yep...Poor kid, one of our few positives for the season has been Harry and now this, young players must dread having their name called out by Carlton recruiters, first Jagga and now HarryO.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #61
Confirmed HOF has done his ACL 😭

Poor kid!
Yep...Poor kid, one of our few positives for the season has been Harry and now this, young players must dread having their name called out by Carlton recruiters, first Jagga and now HarryO.
Absolutely feckin tragic. ☹️
Reality always wins in the end.

 

Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #62
watching the first half, i text my brother had asked who was that team playing and then the second half started and went ahhh their back.
How do this team just stop and think well we played well fro 2 qrts tools down.



Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #63
watching the first half, i text my brother had asked who was that team playing and then the second half started and went ahhh their back.
How do this team just stop and think well we played well fro 2 qrts tools down.

One theory i have, which stems from a quote originally raised by Adam Simpson, is that we are "Too easy to play against".

We've said how we want to play. Contest contest contest.
Beat us at the contest and we've got no plan B.

Now i'm sure there are some subtle tweaks around that. Some tweaks allow us to have a dominant quarter, or even a half.

Then.....the opposition work out where they are losing and why, implement some changes and 'hey presto' we do our disappearing act as a result.


Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #64
watching the first half, i text my brother had asked who was that team playing and then the second half started and went ahhh their back.
How do this team just stop and think well we played well fro 2 qrts tools down.

One theory i have, which stems from a quote originally raised by Adam Simpson, is that we are "Too easy to play against".

We've said how we want to play. Contest contest contest.
Beat us at the contest and we've got no plan B.

Now i'm sure there are some subtle tweaks around that. Some tweaks allow us to have a dominant quarter, or even a half.

Then.....the opposition work out where they are losing and why, implement some changes and 'hey presto' we do our disappearing act as a result.



Yep, it was lets put a player on Georgie boy and see what happens and it did. We lost our drive when Jager sat on George

Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #65
… and word on the street from an ITK on BF is that SOS is gone.
And Cripps is too… according to BF anyway. Apparently wants to play out his career back home.

Yep. I made that speculation a few weeks ago. Watch the space I guess.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #66
… and word on the street from an ITK on BF is that SOS is gone.
And Cripps is too… according to BF anyway. Apparently wants to play out his career back home.
Another ITK poster susequently offered that Cripps hasn't said he wants out, but rather that he is happy to go back to WA if we are doing to a full blown rebuild.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #67
Not getting to the footy has been Motlop's historical problem, so I think seeing him in and around many contest is a step in the right direction.

He's got tricks he just needs to find ways to use them, he'll get better the more opportunity he gets.

Surely nobody could argue he's not at least appearing a bit better than in the past! :o
We have no choice but to continue to persevere with Motlop, he is showing signs of improvement just needs a breakout game.
I'm not convinced on this at all.
His lack of awareness of what's around him is a big concern, which means he often gets caught HTB.
He runs ok in straight lines, but to be a top level small forward, you need to be able to change direction to evade tackles.
He doesn't have this. It may come, but is it worth persisting with him another 2-3 years to find out?

Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #68

And Cripps is too… according to BF anyway. Apparently wants to play out his career back home.
Another ITK poster susequently offered that Cripps hasn't said he wants out, but rather that he is happy to go back to WA if we are doing to a full blown rebuild.


I wouldn't blame him, and unlike some other players,  I wouldn't think less of him.
The reality is, if many of the changes that are speculated about take place we're not winning flags for a number of seasons.
Cripps plays a very physical game.
It's one that means he won't have too many seasons left before his output starts to diminish, or he needs a change of role.
Having endured the worst of times does he want to back up for a second helping...even a mini-rebuild.
It will take some time for any new players to jell.
He's been a warrior for us and he'll be remembered as a Carlton great whatever he decides.
He deserves to determine his own future, and if family is a priority then so be it.
He won't be letting us down because he'll be giving a bit back in terms of trade.

If on the other hand he wants to be a one club player that's fine too...but the next couple of years will likely be tough ones.
Maybe playing without the burden of captaincy would be a good idea.
He's one player we do owe.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #69
Another ITK poster susequently offered that Cripps hasn't said he wants out, but rather that he is happy to go back to WA if we are doing to a full blown rebuild.


I wouldn't blame him, and unlike some other players,  I wouldn't think less of him.
The reality is, if many of the changes that are speculated about take place we're not winning flags for a number of seasons.
Cripps plays a very physical game.
It's one that means he won't have too many seasons left before his output starts to diminish, or he needs a change of role.
Having endured the worst of times does he want to back up for a second helping...even a mini-rebuild.
It will take some time for any new players to jell.
He's been a warrior for us and he'll be remembered as a Carlton great whatever he decides.
He deserves to determine his own future, and if family is a priority then so be it.
He won't be letting us down because he'll be giving a bit back in terms of trade.

If on the other hand he wants to be a one club player that's fine too...but the next couple of years will likely be tough ones.
Maybe playing without the burden of captaincy would be a good idea.
He's one player we do owe.

Well said Lods, agree totally.
He's earned the right to do whatever he wants and if he does go he's not letting down the club in any way.
It's the club that's let him down.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #70

We have no choice but to continue to persevere with Motlop, he is showing signs of improvement just needs a breakout game.
I'm not convinced on this at all.
His lack of awareness of what's around him is a big concern, which means he often gets caught HTB.
He runs ok in straight lines, but to be a top level small forward, you need to be able to change direction to evade tackles.
He doesn't have this. It may come, but is it worth persisting with him another 2-3 years to find out?
I’m kinda hoping he has a break out game because I fear you’re most likely right and he lacks the tricks, time will tell….
The Ox is slow but I'm running out of patience.

Re: AFL Rd 21 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #71
Just because the game plan is garbage doesnt mean we have to do a full rebuild.

We do need some small tweaks. Saad, Gov, Fantasia need to go give the remainder of salary cap space to TDK and SOS and get Dean and Ison.