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Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #45 –
Rowell is a bit of a love child and gets looked after by the umps because he adopts a passive non aggressive attitude towards them and they like that. He gets the 50/50 decisions go his way more often than not and I feel the umps adopt a subconscious attitude that the teams who the AFL want to be successful especially the expansion teams get more of a free ride.
Cripps is always held at stoppages or illegally blocked but its allowed because of his size advantage imo and the umps give more leeway to his taggers imo.

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #46 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Rowell is a bit of a love child and gets looked after by the umps because he adopts a passive non aggressive attitude towards them and they like that. He gets the 50/50 decisions go his way more often than not and I feel the umps adopt a subconscious attitude that the teams who the AFL want to be successful especially the expansion teams get more of a free ride.
Cripps is always held at stoppages or illegally blocked but its allowed because of his size advantage imo and the umps give more leeway to his taggers imo.

Agree. GC were definitely getting the rub of the green imho.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #47 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: RiverRat – on
Viewers who reckon that King kicked all of his goals on Young must have had their eyes as closed as Reiwolt - Weitering hung Young out to dry on at least two occasions by switching coverage so late that Young had no chance to get close to King and there was another occasion when Weitering trailed King as he led up and around before eventually failing to even contest the mark when King made a straight forward lead up the guts.
Young was guarding grass, Weitering was being forced to bounce back and forth between two KPFs while stood watching it happen.

Young can't have it both ways, he likes to go for the 3rd man up contested marks, but the moment he has to stand a equivalently sized opponent or take the front position against a KPF he evaporates. All Young had to do was check King's movement, and Weitering would have closed the gap and taken the front position that Young refused, but he basically stood nowhere and later on he became a step ladder.

Weitering was King's direct opponent for four of his goals, including the one that followed the hanger he took over Young.  Perhaps having a reactive fellow KPP didn't help, but Weiters was simply outplayed by a better key forward on the night.  Of course, King was helped by some excellent kicking inside 50.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #48 –
I remember his twin took Weiters to the cleaners a few seasons ago and we had to swap Liam Jones onto him. Sometimes you can just get a bad matchup.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #49 –
King has been in good form and probably the fittest he has been.
Weitering is the opposite, been out of form  and looked injured and slowed up all season. Going to be interesting this week vs Georgiades who is a very good footballer and been in good form.
Maybe Young needs to give his mate a chop out and take the responsibility as Weitering was carrying a leg injury vs Port last time and Georgiades had a picnic.
 

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #50 –
I love how supporters explain Weitering lowering his colours by invoking a leg injury.  Yes, he could be carrying an injury, most footballers would be at this stage of the season, but he has dealt with most opponents without too much trouble in recent weeks.

If Weiters is to be at his most effective, he needs his teammates to limit the opposition’s inside 50s or, at the very least, to force shallow entries, and to give him the freedom to leave his opponent to intercept or spoil.

"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #51 –
If our recruiters had spent their time in recent years recruiting players with the foot skills of Evans, we wouldn't be stuck in the lower section of the ladder.

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #52 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I love how supporters explain Weitering lowering his colours by invoking a leg injury.  Yes, he could be carrying an injury, most footballers would be at this stage of the season, but he has dealt with most opponents without too much trouble in recent weeks.

If Weiters is to be at his most effective, he needs his teammates to limit the opposition’s inside 50s or, at the very least, to force shallow entries, and to give him the freedom to leave his opponent to intercept or spoil.


He was on one leg vs Georgiades last time and got flogged, looked like a corky from the previous week. He shouldn't have played imo but I guess one legs better than none..

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #53 –
While at least the last quarter gave us something and there was effort during the game, the lack of movement/options being presented and lack of skill still stood out.

To make it interesting, my son and a mate had a few stats to count:
 - How many shanks/OOB on the full from Acres
 - How many high tackles from Harry
 - How many shanks from Harry
 - How many blind bomb kicks

Fog has the yips big time - most of my sons U13 team could have kicked those (might need the smaller ball, though).  He did a couple of nice things - but like a few was a couple of things enough.

Cripps looked as if he wanted to hurt someone tonight - there were quite a few times where once the ball had gone on from where he was that he looked as if he wanted to take the extra couple of steps to take out an opponent.

Curiously, in the third, when Williams was on the mark for a set shot, the GC player missed and Williams gave him a hand tap (wasn't a high 5 and not caught on the coverage) after.  Don't think we really need to be doing that.

Umpires had an ordinary night, but a couple stick out to me:  Williams kicked a sky ball from defence (3rd qtr) that bounced 5 metres from two players before going out - paid Insufficient attempt.  Not sure who kicked a terrible scrubber in the last that went out by our 50m, not a player within sight - throw in - couldn't work it out.

The stand rule is an absolute dogs' breakfast.  You can be there but run backwards to get out of the zone  - no penalty, you can move, or you can stand.  You can be somewhere near the free kick/mark and move forward, sideways and not have a 50 paid.  The player can with the ball can be at any angle to the player on the mark and it doesn't matter.  Just make one rule and apply it.

I though we would lose by about 8 goals, so I suppose we did better than expected.  GC talent, movement and delivery was a lot better than ours.

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #54 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: DJC – on
I love how supporters explain Weitering lowering his colours by invoking a leg injury.  Yes, he could be carrying an injury, most footballers would be at this stage of the season, but he has dealt with most opponents without too much trouble in recent weeks.

If Weiters is to be at his most effective, he needs his teammates to limit the opposition’s inside 50s or, at the very least, to force shallow entries, and to give him the freedom to leave his opponent to intercept or spoil.


He was on one leg vs Georgiades last time and got flogged, looked like a corky from the previous week. He shouldn't have played imo but I guess one legs better than none..

No, Weiters wasn’t on one leg and Georgiades had his way with Silvagni too. 

Once again, it was a break down in our team defence that gave Georgiades an edge.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #55 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: DJC – on


Cripps was smashed ... by the umpires!  If only he got a smidgeon of the care that the umpires show towards Rowell.  Cripps got one free and was penalised three times.  Rowell got five frees and was penalised twice.  Both laid eight tackles and copped much the same treatment without the ball.  If Rowell's five frees were there, Crippa should have got eight.

The 50m penalty was an absolute joke - no wonder Cripps looked puzzled and frustrated.
yeah cripps was tackled off the ball in that one, but I think what was paid was a late tackle on the suns player after getting kicked it forward.


and then, about 5mins later, we get a free for a late hit, a clear downfield (about 30 out in front) - but, no, bring it back, no downfield free...

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #56 –
‘Umpires had an ordinary night, but a couple stick out to me:  Williams kicked a sky ball from defence (3rd qtr) that bounced 5 metres from two players before going out - paid Insufficient attempt.  Not sure who kicked a terrible scrubber in the last that went out by our 50m, not a player within sight - throw in - couldn't work it out.’

This made me yell at the tv. The GC players were both there but came to a stop not bothering to keep the ball in. Deliberate 🙄 how on earth does a kick going off the side of your boot that oppo players could get if they didn’t stop, constitute deliberate.

Umpiring was absolutely shocking

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #57 –
if there was a stat in which team kicks the ball to the opposition the most i would say we would be no 1 in this field. Our game plan HOW BAD is it . any danger someone could help the fullback by fill in the space  or hole in front of king , we are to much 1 direction this has to change for 26 

Re: AFL Rd 22 202 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #58 –
Quote from: pew2 – on
if there was a stat in which team kicks the ball to the opposition the most i would say we would be no 1 in this field. Our game plan HOW BAD is it . any danger someone could help the fullback by fill in the space  or hole in front of king , we are to much 1 direction this has to change for 26

So.....our game plan is to kick to the opposition?