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Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #75 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Carlton efficiency into the forward line was 22% from 44 entries, Richmond was 15% from 60 entries.
Our forward line is worse than last season and clearly our defensive skills in the midfield and front half are non existent.
Sam Docherty was on the money regardless of how he got his message across...
EB watching the game form a better vantage  point than last week with the ability to see the entire ground, I felt we set up much better than previously. Our disposal is still bad the times when you need to get out of trouble. I saw Rich players hit target after target and they very rarely rely on dump kicks in hope. We still manage to pull that old chestnut out and 9 times out of 10 seems to go to the opposition (apparently the new term for this is MOOB= mark off opposition boot). There are times when we need to just hold possesion, chip it around abit and control the tempo and we just dont. What term did Voss use? Be humble (or something like that). We were so reckless at times it wasnt funny. They need to taper back with the daring play for a few weeks and focus on basics. There have been a lot of personnel changes so they need to learn to sync together in match situations against real opposition. They'll it out in the coming weeks, starts to seasons are always challenging, thats what Ill hang my hat on for now.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #76 –
I think our structure is cactus.  Still haven't settled on the second tall at either end, the small forward options and the smaller defenders, how to use Harry....so WTF  were we doing all PS?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
 

Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #77 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Perspective. We went into that game with everything to lose, and the Tiggers went into the game with nothing to lose.

We were also copping a pile-on from critics, media and disgruntled, loud fans.

We're also changing game style. And positional changes for some.

We're also blooding many newbies.

We also had a few critical passengers, Chesser, Fogarty and Ollie in particular, last night.

When serious pressure comes, individuals and groups, 'resort to type.' For years this has been on display... third qtr debacles the resultant symptom. That's going to take time, plenty of time, to eradicate. Moving from sh*tting yourself under pressure to inviting and being hungry for pressure is a great task and shift. Between the lugholes. I saw a small step forward in that final qtr. The goal would be to thrive on pressure.

I really don't feel as negative as many. We're a work in progress to change many bad habits and create many great habits. This is a new Carlton and a big paradigm shift. Starting again, in some respects. We'll know so much more in a month or two, so, personally my expectations are shelved ...so as to see, objectively, how we're progressing well down the track.

Our boys needed that win, and got it. Yes, a 'great escape' but a win nonetheless. Any side with their collective tails up is hard to beat.
Agree Baggers, I think this group will click eventually, will take time (and I know thats not what people want to hear but thats relaity). We need to get a few players back and weed out the ones that arent the future.
What farken gem Jagga is, he is so quick with hands it frightens me to think if he get any better, with some experience under his belt, how great he can become. Definately something special there.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #78 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Perspective. We went into that game with everything to lose, and the Tiggers went into the game with nothing to lose.

We were also copping a pile-on from critics, media and disgruntled, loud fans.

We're also changing game style. And positional changes for some.

We're also blooding many newbies.

We also had a few critical passengers, Chesser, Fogarty and Ollie in particular, last night.

When serious pressure comes, individuals and groups, 'resort to type.' For years this has been on display... third qtr debacles the resultant symptom. That's going to take time, plenty of time, to eradicate. Moving from sh*tting yourself under pressure to inviting and being hungry for pressure is a great task and shift. Between the lugholes. I saw a small step forward in that final qtr. The goal would be to thrive on pressure.

I really don't feel as negative as many. We're a work in progress to change many bad habits and create many great habits. This is a new Carlton and a big paradigm shift. Starting again, in some respects. We'll know so much more in a month or two, so, personally my expectations are shelved ...so as to see, objectively, how we're progressing well down the track.

Our boys needed that win, and got it. Yes, a 'great escape' but a win nonetheless. Any side with their collective tails up is hard to beat.
I was expecting a big rebound,we had the advantage of already playing one game unlike the Tigers who were having their first hit out. A media pile on should have generated a real response but that lasted a quarter and our second half was putrid.
Celebrating that win vs a bunch of kids and  and carrying on like we were premiers was something a bottom team would do.
Robert Walls would have had the boxing  gloves out this week...it's just hard watching a Carlton team struggling to play a decent brand and now acting like a bottom club as well.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #79 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: MickyO – on
My Heart rate was not healthy in that last 5 mins 🙄

Im the opposite - i have no fear no expectation anymore.

I know where we sit and any win this season will be hard earnt and apart from the bottom 3 sides of WC, North and Rich we wont be troubling any of the teams above and will be some big hidings as well in this season.

This is basically what ive been saying all b offseason.

People need to lower their expectations this year. Do that and your mental health will thank you.

Some players will improve.
Some players will get worse.
Some players will get injured.
Some players will retire.

Overall, our list is weaker, and all other things being equal, our results will be worse.
Sure a great run with injuries may help, but looking at our current injury list, that looks unlikely.

So expect poor results and youll sleep at night.

Now, doesnt mean we need to blow up the place. With some young additions and extra draft picks banked....i expect to improve in a year or 2.....just not now.

.....that is of course if we can hold our crap together and not blow up the place in the meantime......which im not confident on, but if everyone lowered expectations itd be more likely.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #80 –
Can I add one thing, is it me or is the "blind turn" back? Richmond players seemed to do it a lot last night.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #81 –
My expectations are about as low as they can go.  There comes point where we have to face the fact that we are a club that will be hammered by top 8 clubs for years to come.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #82 –
how Bad is our recruiting first sos and now nick Austin 

Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #83 –
Quote from: pew2 – on
how Bad is our recruiting first sos and now nick Austin 
Is it the recruiting? Is it the coach?, is it both? or is the off field not right so the onfield will never be right?
You never know with Carlton as its a game of snakes and ladders just up and down, no one can be definitive on what is the major problem. As Clarkson recently said its hard to drag a bottomed out club back up the ladder and we have tried or copied every method and now are in the Collingwood premiership year moneyball plan where we have made a number of list changes on the cheap to initiate change of game style in contrast to fellow perennial strugglers Stkilda who have sold the farm to change their fortunes. There doesnt seem to be a one size plan that fits all that guarantees success....

Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #84 –
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
What a sh1tfest that was.

No-one can be happy with that Z-grade effort.

Thank feck Lynch kicked poorly, they would have pinched if he hadn't.

He was Carlton's best player!!!!