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Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #45 –
Quote from: blueboys_1 – on
On a positive note, Talor Byrne had a great debut for the club. A great first game. A goal with his first kick after using his body to edge out the Melbourne player and a couple of great bumps to clear the way for a couple of goals. Nice work young man and good luck for the future.
The kid showed more physicality than our KPPs.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #46 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Today was humiliating. There is no other way of describing it. We haven't learnt anything from last year.
[1] There are others who may not agree, but Gawn's game today showed why having a decent ruckman is a necessity. He lifted and dragged his midfield with him. Pitto tried his heart out, but he isn't a top ruck.
HOK has also gone backwards, which doesn't help us at all. Reidy doesn't look like the answer either, although he does, at least, get a few possessions.
We need a top ruck if we are to ever get back to being a contender! We had one but he is no longer at the club!!

[2] Our fitness levels remain suspect. Our 1st quarter was as good as any played this season, but after that ...  :'(  :'(  :'(  Not fitness. Its mental. I remember an interview with Florent after the first game and he said that all the clubs have the same fitness base and that it is more of a mental issue.
This was clear last year, yet we don't appear to have addressed it at all. If anything, we conk our earlier. We've been in front at half time in all of our games, again! Yet, we've won one and were lucky to do so.

[3] Our disposal: Another point we noted last year. Has it improved? Well, I couldn't say yes. Our disposal at times was diabolical. Nothings changed!!

[4] Our decision making also appears no better. Again, it was obvious last year. Nothings changed!!

[5] Our style of play: it was incredibly obvious that we our game style needs work.
(a) We don't stay close enough, or put enough physical pressure on to make a difference. That was so obvious when you looked at Talor Byrne's efforts, which really stood out.
(b) we don't lead and we don't honour a lead. We just fill in the spaces, so there is nowhere to run into. Instead we kick long down the line to a contest, which was so predictable to the opposition that they know what we're doing better than our players do.
(c) Run and carry: after quarter time we barely had any. Melbourne continually had guys open because they ran hard and kicked long. We stopped until everyone was covered before we tried to kick.
(d) We don't run with anybody. Opposition good players feast out on us as nobody picks them up. Pickett doesn't get a kick on a negative player who sticks close to him. But allow him to run around and he kills you!
(e) We kick the ball to the opposition's netter players instead of to ours. The number of times we kicked the ball to Gawn was ghastly!

[6] Psychological help: we clearly need it, as we lack belief. We don't think quickly. We make poor decisions. Most of that can be cured if we have faith in our teammates. We don't. We really need to have this self-belief if we are to improve.

[7] Leadership: we really are missing a fair bit there. Our 'leaders' don't go the extra mile. When things get hard, they don't stand up. Melbourne's leaders really stood up when it was needed. Ours did not. We cannot afford that.

I don not think Voss will be coaching us next year. No matter how well he might speak, his tenure has been one of lack of leadership, being unable to run out games, not being able to react to changes and not improving our game plan.
I don't know who our next coach may be, but we need one. We have issues that need addressing and Voss isn't doing the job.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #47 –
That was as brutal a day at the footy as the Collingwood loss to miss the finals. For a moment I was thinking that the Syd and Richmond games were simply a case of some early season rust, but the 66 point turnaround against a very average opponent took that hope and stomped it into the ground. It feels like 26 is already done.

On the positives, I’m not a fan of Lewis Young or Elijah Holllands but both played as well as I can remember, as did another of my favourite whipping boys Mitch McGovern. Byrne, Smith, Dean, Weitering, Evans & Carroll (mostly) were also serviceable throughout.

Our senior playing group were poor when we needed them to stand up. Gawn showed us what champion leaders do when their team needs them. Cripps, Walsh, Hewett and Mckay simply didnt respond when the momentum shifted and we simply allowed wave after wave of attack and barely raised a wimper in the last three quarters. The logic of Hewett on Pickett in parts of the second half has me totally confused - how does that matchup make any sense??

Chesser is a ball butcher as is Oliver Hollands. Both are simply not good enough.

McKay is way too passive and the passage of play where he ignored three free players streaming by him to kick to a contest in front of goal sums him up - he’s no A grader and never will be.

I also expected so much more of Kemp, Ainsworth and Hayward - all had very little impact which isn’t good enough. How is it that Hayward simply can’t find the footy at the Blues?

In the coaches box Voss had another shocker - soundly out out coached by Yze last week and now King.  When the momentum shifted there was no obvious structural shift to slow momentum and tighten the game.

So many issues!!
 

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #48 –
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-2026-michael-voss-future-carlton-blues-second-half-fadeouts-loss-to-melbourne-first-crack-analysis-latest-news/news-story/837a77ad4d0b63d21feba87c01b9778e

It's started already,  as expected.     A.   we don't have the right type of players for 2026 game style,  and
          B.    we don't have a suitable modern style coach,   or a coach who can consistently get the best out of our list.

There will be lots of similar stories printed in the coming weeks,  especially if we capitulate once again to North,  then MV will really be feeling the blowtorch.   I can't see anything changing with this playing group   -   GW has lots of homework to do.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #49 –
I have lost confidence in the coaches.

I wish it werent so but insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

We did absolutely nothing to curb the momentum shift. Sure its on the players out there mostly but they are being directed. Why are we sticking to something that is continually not working?

A beautiful Melbourne day today, 42 pts up in the first quarter. And every Carlton supporter knew exactly what would happen. If i as a 50yo up in the stand never having played a game in my life could see it unfolding in front of me, how do the multiple
Coaches not? When a team gets a run on, not once do we do something to negate it. We just continue on ‘stick to the plan’.

Well the fking plan sucks and every single supporter is sick of watching that crap.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #50 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
You can see at the ground we were tired towards the end of half time.

We lack fitness.

And footy smarts
And coaching
And execution
And leg speed.


apart from that we are good.

Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #51 –
Quote from: MickyO – on
I have lost confidence in the coaches.

I wish it werent so but insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

We did absolutely nothing to curb the momentum shift. Sure its on the players out there mostly but they are being directed. Why are we sticking to something that is continually not working?

A beautiful Melbourne day today, 42 pts up in the first quarter. And every Carlton supporter knew exactly what would happen. If i as a 50yo up in the stand never having played a game in my life could see it unfolding in front of me, how do the multiple
Coaches not? When a team gets a run on, not once do we do something to negate it. We just continue on ‘stick to the plan’.

Well the fking plan sucks and every single supporter is sick of watching that crap.

agree. i said it in the pre match thread pickett was the dangerman and yet again pir coaches allow him free reign.

We lack any imagination or innovation to swing things around. The old cripps to the forward 50 is the one move he makes and its beating a dead horse as he cant kick for goal and we lose his influence around the ball.

3 games we were beaten the exact same way and not in one of those games was magnets moved or gameplan changed to slow the flow.

not once.

The list is very light on for talent and is way too slow across the ground for the modern game but the coaching and game plan standard is laughable.

Voss has had more then enough time. Change is needed and i hope we dont wait till the year is out to pull the bandaid off. Hope we are talking to horse.