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Quote from: Lods – on Today at 05:35:57 pm

Not sure if it's been mentioned but Hayward has been given a week for his hit on Wardlaw.

Probably save himself  and the club the embarrassment of dropping him...

McKay is a shadow of his former self:
He struggles to take an overhead mark without juggling the ball at least once.
He fails to get separation from a defender on the lead.
Even when he does get some decent foot passes to his advantage, he seems to be unable to use his considerable body size and reach to prevent an opponent from spoiling from behind.
He remains an unreliable kick for goal.

Might as well use him as a back up ruckman to allow him to try and regain some one-grab overhead marking.

Regarding not replacing the 'topliners'.

Serious question....
With who?
Who would we have taken in the last draft/trade period to replace them.

You can make a good case for not developing the repalcements long term.
But when DeKoning (expected), Silvagni (unexpected) and Curnow (umming and ahhing) decided to leave who should we have replaced them with.

Hayward was particularly poor and needs to be the coaches office at 9 am Monday to explain himself and his actions.  I'd drop him, publicly, because he needs an attitude re-set.

I must confess that I really don't see any useful point in, "If only we had Charlie, JSOS and TDK." We don't have them any longer. Right, wrong, good, bad... they aint at PP.

Seems to me the club had the long game in mind, bringing in draft picks and stopgap players when trading/letting go those 3... that's their strategy it seems and it'll be some time before they can be judged on that.

We have to work with what we have and so far this, in every game, we've been in winning positions... so, talent wise, we can do it, but then we blow it. Not easy to create cohesion between so many new blokes in 4 games!

Talk of sacking the coach is silly. Who is going to take his place? Ash Hansen **cough, splutter**? Patience Grasshopper.

Regarding not replacing the 'topliners'.

Serious question....
With who?
Who would we have taken in the last draft/trade period to replace them.

You can make a good case for not developing the repalcements long term.
But when DeKoning (expected), Silvagni (unexpected) and Curnow (umming and ahhing) decided to leave who should we have replaced them with.

I must confess that I really don't see any useful point in, "If only we had Charlie, JSOS and TDK." We don't have them any longer. Right, wrong, good, bad... they aint at PP.

Seems to me the club had the long game in mind, bringing in draft picks and stopgap players when trading/letting go those 3... that's their strategy it seems and it'll be some time before they can be judged on that.

We have to work with what we have and so far this, in every game, we've been in winning positions... so, talent wise, we can do it, but then we blow it. Not easy to create cohesion between so many new blokes in 4 games!

Talk of sacking the coach is silly. Who is going to take his place? Ash Hansen **cough, splutter**? Patience Grasshopper.

Seems to me the club had the long game in mind...

Quote from: Lods – on Today at 05:05:13 pm

Regarding not replacing the 'topliners'.

Serious question....
With who?
Who would we have taken in the last draft/trade period to replace them.

You can make a good case for not developing the repalcements long term.
But when DeKoning (expected), Silvagni (unexpected) and Curnow (umming and ahhing) decided to leave who should we have replaced them with.

He has been the list manager for 6 years. Other clubs have recruited players. A few here had a laugh at Hawthorn getting Barrass and Battle despite having Frost and Sicily. They improved their defence.

Quote from: madbluboy – on Today at 07:50:25 pm

He has been the list manager for 6 years. Other clubs have recruited players. A few here had a laugh at Hawthorn getting Barrass and Battle despite having Frost and Sicily. They improved their defence.

That's not what I'm asking
Put your list managers hat on give us three names we should have replaced TDK, Silvagni or Curnow with.

You can argue we didn't plan ahead in case they departed.
You can't argue we did nothing to replace them when they were gone, or looked like going, unless you can suggest some players we should have picked up.
I've given Khamis for Silvagni,that may even have been a win for us, but the Curnow deal got in the way.
Who for TDK and Curnow.

Quote from: Lods – on Today at 08:25:52 pm

That's not what I'm asking
Put your list managers hat on give us three names we should have replaced TDK, Silvagni or Curnow with.

You can argue we didn't plan ahead in case they departed.
You can't argue we did nothing to replace them when they were gone, or looked like going, unless you can suggest some players we should have picked up.
I've given Khamis for Silvagni,that may even have been a win for us, but the Curnow deal got in the way.
Who for TDK and Curnow.

*Ding ding ding*

That aside...we shouldve pried someone out of gold coast when they were interested in charlie. Either king or the kid whose name escapes me right now.

Or if we insisted on sydney, got amartey back. Far from a gun replacement, but bwtter than steak knives florent.