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Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #30
[3] Our recruiter certainly deserve their share of the blame. Rarely have I seen a list with so little athleticism. We didn't have anyone who could run with St. Kilda's better players. Whose fault is this? We lack pace all over the field. We have few players with real spring. Many of our better players are as slow as treacle!

[4] Our fitness people also need to admit that they've failed. There are reports that our guys have never been fitter. That doesn't stack up. Otherwise, we would be running guys down late in games. Otherwise, opposition players wouldn't break out tackles so easily. Our guys are weak, not just the youngsters, who have some excuse.
Recruiting HAS been horrendous. Where are our ‘buzzy’-type players that hit the ball at speed and create chaos? Think Watson at Hawthorn.
I heard the commentator from yesterday’s Brisbane match say they’re the best because they play consistently with precision AND speed - basically the opposite of us.

As if highlighting BOTH of you points above - why is Jagga Smith still so skinny? How come no-one mentored him at the gym during his time out and put some muscle on him? A good weights regime and decent protein laden diet should see any 20 year old bulk up considerably. Instead we’ve got yet another accumulator who doesn’t impact or influence effectively.

So many dropped balls on and off the field.
All great points. I suspect though with Jagga the sole focus would have been getting the knee rehabbed 110%, they may have resulted in compromising size and strength increase. Just guessing, he has time on this side to get bigger and stronger. My view is our kids are the least of our problems.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #31
SOS smiling, Fake pity from TDK and Jack after the game about how bad we are and how they feel our pain??
The club should be embarrassed and as I said prior game win, lose or draw I'm not talking about the coaches future based on this game. This loss is all on the players and the leaders and makes me think we might have to import some leadership from another club because there are hardly any options..
I was going to ask for two first rounders for Harry in a trade to Tassie , might have to rethink that and beg for two second rounders. He needs a spell away from the game and Brisbane can probably just rub Bens name off the whiteboard  and replace it with Harry, no need to change the low confidence.
The media should have a field day with the players his week and rightly so, surely the club have to try more youth now and look to the future..

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #32
SOS smiling, Fake pity from TDK and Jack after the game about how bad we are and how they feel our pain??
The club should be embarrassed and as I said prior game win, lose or draw I'm not talking about the coaches future based on this game. This loss is all on the players and the leaders and makes me think we might have to import some leadership from another club because there are hardly any options..
I was going to ask for two first rounders for Harry in a trade to Tassie , might have to rethink that and beg for two second rounders. He needs a spell away from the game and Brisbane can probably just rub Bens name off the whiteboard  and replace it with Harry, no need to change the low confidence.
The media should have a field day with the players his week and rightly so, surely the club have to try more youth now and look to the future..

I told you we wouldnt respond. This group doesnt know how to when challenged.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #33
SOS smiling, Fake pity from TDK and Jack after the game about how bad we are and how they feel our pain??
The club should be embarrassed and as I said prior game win, lose or draw I'm not talking about the coaches future based on this game. This loss is all on the players and the leaders and makes me think we might have to import some leadership from another club because there are hardly any options..
I was going to ask for two first rounders for Harry in a trade to Tassie , might have to rethink that and beg for two second rounders. He needs a spell away from the game and Brisbane can probably just rub Bens name off the whiteboard  and replace it with Harry, no need to change the low confidence.
The media should have a field day with the players his week and rightly so, surely the club have to try more youth now and look to the future..

EB I would drop a dozen with ease from last's s-show.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #34
5 minutes into the 3rd up by 3 goals, an angry Jack stood up to Cripps grabbed his guernsey gave him a mouthful, team mate helps Jack gives Cripps a shove. Harry just stands there like a stuffed dummy.
All downhill from there.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #35
SOS smiling, Fake pity from TDK and Jack after the game about how bad we are and how they feel our pain??
The club should be embarrassed and as I said prior game win, lose or draw I'm not talking about the coaches future based on this game. This loss is all on the players and the leaders and makes me think we might have to import some leadership from another club because there are hardly any options..
I was going to ask for two first rounders for Harry in a trade to Tassie , might have to rethink that and beg for two second rounders. He needs a spell away from the game and Brisbane can probably just rub Bens name off the whiteboard  and replace it with Harry, no need to change the low confidence.
The media should have a field day with the players his week and rightly so, surely the club have to try more youth now and look to the future..

EB I would drop a dozen with ease from last's s-show.
Yep. That was just about as low as we have been. No sign of the sunrise or a single green shoot. Whatever it may be something major has just got to give. We look devoid of passion, devoid of skills and devoid of leadership. It will be a looong road back even when we manage to find where that road starts.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #36
SOS smiling, Fake pity from TDK and Jack after the game about how bad we are and how they feel our pain??
The club should be embarrassed and as I said prior game win, lose or draw I'm not talking about the coaches future based on this game. This loss is all on the players and the leaders and makes me think we might have to import some leadership from another club because there are hardly any options..
I was going to ask for two first rounders for Harry in a trade to Tassie , might have to rethink that and beg for two second rounders. He needs a spell away from the game and Brisbane can probably just rub Bens name off the whiteboard  and replace it with Harry, no need to change the low confidence.
The media should have a field day with the players his week and rightly so, surely the club have to try more youth now and look to the future..

I told you we wouldnt respond. This group doesnt know how to when challenged.
Hope dies hard...

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #37
5 minutes into the 3rd up by 3 goals, an angry Jack stood up to Cripps grabbed his guernsey gave him a mouthful, team mate helps Jack gives Cripps a shove. Harry just stands there like a stuffed dummy.
All downhill from there.
Harry is the biggest pussycat in footy. He scares no one.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #38
5 minutes into the 3rd up by 3 goals, an angry Jack stood up to Cripps grabbed his guernsey gave him a mouthful, team mate helps Jack gives Cripps a shove. Harry just stands there like a stuffed dummy.
All downhill from there.
Harry is the biggest pussycat in footy. He scares no one.

Seems worse after losing his mate Charlie, I think both McKays have to think about their future. They remind me a bit of Tom Boyd from the Bulldogs and that the demands of the game mentally are proving too much for  them.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #39

Harry is the biggest pussycat in footy. He scares no one.

Seems worse after losing his mate Charlie, I think both McKays have to think about their future. They remind me a bit of Tom Boyd from the Bulldogs and that the demands of the game mentally are proving too much for  them.
Yes I think you’re right.
Reality always wins in the end.

 

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #40
His continued failure to impose himself i.e. hammer defenders coming back into him shows he's a nice bloke and unsuited to what is essentially a gladiatorial sport....nice guys finish last - exactly where we are at this point in time.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #41
And no more leave passes for Hayward....F.Yoing or Ison.
If you don't want to be here, F off
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #42
SOS smiling, Fake pity from TDK and Jack after the game about how bad we are and how they feel our pain??
The club should be embarrassed and as I said prior game win, lose or draw I'm not talking about the coaches future based on this game. This loss is all on the players and the leaders and makes me think we might have to import some leadership from another club because there are hardly any options..
I was going to ask for two first rounders for Harry in a trade to Tassie , might have to rethink that and beg for two second rounders. He needs a spell away from the game and Brisbane can probably just rub Bens name off the whiteboard  and replace it with Harry, no need to change the low confidence.
The media should have a field day with the players his week and rightly so, surely the club have to try more youth now and look to the future..

EB I would drop a dozen with ease from last's s-show.
I would too but sending too many  kids into battle usually doesn't end well but we probably can't do any worse.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #43
We lost the game in about 15 mins.

So im not sure what occurs during these times.  Are our opponents lifting do we just go into our shells?  Are we just executing badly for a little while?

Jordan Russell used to play like this.  10 to 15 minutes of diabolical football where he couldnt put a foot right.

So cowan I think went off injured and couldnt look after w.millera and that was probably the catalyst in the momentum shift. 

We had a few moments we would want back.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda

Reply #44
Our problems start and finish in the centre squar;, our set up is abominable and stale.
Our rucks try hard but they are useless under the new rules. Why didn't the club work to get ahead of this?
The club knew the new rules were coming. We knew that we were losing Tom de Koning, the only player who could benefit from them. So, do we address the issues? No.
I know there are those here who have downplayed the importance of rucks, but this year has shown just how vital they are to modern football. We don't have what is required and when our rucks get beaten, the other team piles on the scores and we are powerless to stop them.


Our mids are totally unsuited to the modern game. They provide no leadership, no dynamic ball movement and no defensive cover.  They are slow as get out, and don't kick goals.  And now the one wood - contested footy - is gone. So they are passengers and a liability.
Again, it doesn't take a genius to how how midfields have been evolving in the last few years, nor is it unclear as to what sort of players have become important. Yet, to we address the issue? Do we prepare our players for what they need to do?
It was sad watching Cripps yesterday. He so badly wanted to impact the game, but he couldn't catch his opponents and the ball didn't get near him.
And did we have anyone with pace to play on St. Kilda's speedy players? We tried Cowan, who tried hard but couldn't keep up. The others we just let run around. It was terrible!


George and Lord must play going forwards.
Cerra was a mistake and needs to learn how to become relevant in the seconds.
Cripps should join him but his future looks to be up forward or traded out.
We need to try something else and look for something more dynamic within the centre square - Williams ? (another over rated player), Ainsworth ? The Campos? Anybody.
I'm not sure that Hewett is an answer to our problems, but he is certainly in better form that Cerra is. Lord needs to be in, but he doesn't help us go faster either.
Cody Walker will improve our midfield, because he isn't slow, but that's just one kid.

And gees,didn't the genius MC make another set of stunningly effective decisions again.  If we aren't tanking I've never seen it.
We don't seem to think about our matchups. Structurally, we've been deficient all year, and it really stood out yesterday. Where were our close-checking defenders? There weren't any. St. Kilda's mid sized forwards took mark after mark because there was nobody with the skills to beat them at it. Our key defenders were little better, although Weitering and Dean had their moments.
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