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Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #120 –
Source: ESPN AU

                                                Under Voss                         Under Fraser

Uncontested Marks:                    13th                                         1st
Long kicks %:                                9th                                        18th
45 degree kicks:                           15th                                        3rd
D50 to i50%:                                13th                                        2nd
Kick i50 Retention %                     6th                                         2nd

Even im surprised with how quickly the old gameplan was changed and match day implemented with the same list.   

Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #121 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

The captain couldn't get a kick, couldn't run out a game, couldn't lay a tackle under Voss, wouldn't commit to the club but suddenly is in brownlow form under Fraser? Weitering has played crape all year, Hewett dropped. The dressing room was a mess under Voss last season and hasn't improve much IMHO and same with Scott at Essendon. I'm not interested in almost, maybes, led at half times etc etc..its been a debacle of a season and everyone knew how it was going to end except now the senior players want to try under Fraser and help the kids but will wins actually mess up our draft hand?If I'm Voss is be asking where was that effort and application to task when I needed it?
Speculation Your Honour.
Had the same problems in Brisbane, players leaving, disputes with players, sacked from that job ...its all fact.
Its has never been one big happy family at either club imho and the results back up that theory...and the theory that not all great players makes great coaches has been proven again.  

Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #122 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Even im surprised with how quickly the old gameplan was changed and match day implemented with the same list.
Publish the link, I hope it wasn't the article that ranks career stats versus the last 2 games, aka the MAGA of all stats!

btw., Did you read the stats for the last 6 games, or are all stats bogus? :D

As @Thryleon had already linked for the various overnight miracle believers https://x.com/i/status/2059208469161590794
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #123 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: shawny – on
Even im surprised with how quickly the old gameplan was changed and match day implemented with the same list.

Publish the link, I hope it wasn't the article that ranks career stats versus the last 2 games.

btw., Did you read the stats for the last 6 games, or are all stats bogus? :D

As @Thryleon had already linked for the various overnighters!
https://x.com/i/status/2059208469161590794


I think that's the table they showed on Footy Classified
(edit: It's a different one on FC around clearances. )

Rounds 1-9 v Rounds 10-11
Hitouts to advantage -13th to 6th
First Possession- 11th to 2nd
Clearances-10th to 7th
Clearances Score 8th to 2nd
Centre Clearance 14th to 4th
Centre bounce scores 12th to 4th






Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #124 –
I think we need to be careful with time frames when comparing stats. The issue is whether the changes were well underway when Voss left. Hence Daniel Hoyne briefly looked at the first 5 or so weeks of the season, and the next few weeks, under Voss and Fraser. Hoyne's point being that the improvement in numbers, ball movement etc started under Voss.
 

Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #125 –
At the end of the day, does it really matter.
We've made the change.
There was always likely to be a bit of a sugar hit.
Sugar hits are not sustainable over the preiod that remains of the season, and by the end of the year we will have a much better idea of how we are travelling.

The side is more settled now.
It was always going to take some time to gel with a number of players going out and new ones coming into the side.
We had some early season injuries that interrupted the pre seasons of some.
Weitering took a while to get back after the state game injury...some would argue he's still well off his best.
It looks like we actually drafted well and Dean, Ison and Byrne look likely. Jagga is really a newbie as well.
All these guys are growing in confidence and will benefit with more games.

It's all a work in progress.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #126 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Source: ESPN AU

                                                Under Voss                         Under Fraser

Uncontested Marks:                    13th                                         1st
Long kicks %:                                9th                                        18th
45 degree kicks:                           15th                                        3rd
D50 to i50%:                                13th                                        2nd
Kick i50 Retention %                     6th                                         2nd

Even im surprised with how quickly the old gameplan was changed and match day implemented with the same list.

Now do one that includes the last 3 games from Voss and compare that to Fraser.
Will be just about identical.....as the previous posts pointed out, that you failed to acknowledge.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #127 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: shawny – on
Even im surprised with how quickly the old gameplan was changed and match day implemented with the same list.
Publish the link, I hope it wasn't the article that ranks career stats versus the last 2 games, aka the MAGA of all stats!

btw., Did you read the stats for the last 6 games, or are all stats bogus? :D

As @Thryleon had already linked for the various overnight miracle believers https://x.com/i/status/2059208469161590794

We did it for 4 qtrs the last 2 weeks. Before then, for half a game we were probably last for those measures each week. Fact is we were 1-8, now we are 3-8. That's the one measure that matters and executing those statistical measures much better.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #128 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: LP – on

Publish the link, I hope it wasn't the article that ranks career stats versus the last 2 games, aka the MAGA of all stats!

btw., Did you read the stats for the last 6 games, or are all stats bogus? :D

As @Thryleon had already linked for the various overnight miracle believers https://x.com/i/status/2059208469161590794

We did it for 4 qtrs the last 2 weeks. Before then, for half a game we were probably last for those measures each week. Fact is we were 1-8, now we are 3-8. That's the one measure that matters and executing those statistical measures much better.

....and if we played Dogs and Port every game we'd be 11-0.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide

Reply #129 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: laj – on
We did it for 4 qtrs the last 2 weeks. Before then, for half a game we were probably last for those measures each week. Fact is we were 1-8, now we are 3-8. That's the one measure that matters and executing those statistical measures much better.

....and if we played Dogs and Port every game we'd be 11-0.
We were 1-8, we weren't beating anyone. The one we did win was Richmond by 4pts. So, that proves you wrong yet again. Dogs and Port aren't exactly Essendon and Richmond. Port hammered Geelong 4 weeks ago and the Dogs beat Melbourne. They're not Freo and Sydney but they aren't poor either. They a always solid tests, especially in Adelaide.
 
Anyway, keep on spinning. I'm sure you'll be barracking hard for Geelong Friday just so you feel you are right.