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Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #60 –
An interesting observation from one of the commentators last night was along the lines of the GWS defenders being under more when we bombed high kicks inside 50.

Apart from taking marks inside 50, we were able to bring the ball to ground where good crumbing and manic defensive efforts created scoring opportunities.  Unfortunately, we didn't capitalise on that and missed far too many simle shots at goal.
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Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #61 –
With both Lij and Ollie out - do we need them back?

Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #62 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Vossy was the one who brought Hewett back into the side.
Vossy was the one who played Dean and Jagga from day 1.
Vossy was the one who brought in Wilson.
Vossy was the one who played Harry as 2nd ruck.

Vossy was the one who did 99% of what Fraser is getting credit for.

I've got no issue with Fraser and what he is doing....and what he did previously with the bullants etc.
But lets there is a lot of attempting to rewrite history going on.
When Fraser took over, we were ranked with the easiest (or 2nd easiest) draw coming up through the middle part of the season.
He has been good since he come on board, but right place and right time play a huge part in that.

There's also the integration of our VFL and AFL squads that Jordan Russell gave Vossy credit for in his interview last week.

Then there's the fact that the coach, whether it's Vossy or Fraser, doesn't select the team himself but is one voice, admittedly a loud one, on the match committee.

There's no doubt that Fraser is doing a great job but, as he and others freely admit, it's on the back of the foundations Vossy and the other members of the coaching panel built.

I hope that Fraser sticks to his guns and continues to rule himself out of the top job.  Another Teague Train debacle could be be terminal for players, supporters and the club.
We could look at Teague who was an interim that didn't work, or look at Ratten going back, that did work, going 0-7 tanking 7 games in his interim year. Not every circumstance is the same.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #63 –
If Fraser continues on his winning ways I just don't think he could stay at the club next year if he's not the senior coach.
A new coach will have a new approach.
One that will differ from what is currently having success.
If Voss has created a foundation and Fraser is continuing it as many argue, with success.
How is it possible for a new coach to come in with the spectre of a successful Fraser in the background.
An experienced coach like Longmire might get away with it.
A new inexperienced coach with the teething problems that entails won't have much of a chance if they don't notch up wins from the start...and Fraser is waiting in the wings.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #64 –
Rewatched the game, a few things stood out for me in this game;

Umpiring.  I just don't understand so many calls, even worse are the awful missed calls. 
Dreadful delivery into F50 by both sides. Park football stuff.
Woeful goal kicking... We kick from angles far too often but we waste so many set shots.  Talor needs to nail the few chances he gets and he ain't. Thirty metres out should be simple.
Our marking targets McG- Kemp-Harry are an issue. Harry plays better up the ground, Kemp can't finish reliably and McG is barely going. 
If Derkson is going to make it he needs a kicking coach...he lays back on every kick and its heart in mouth stuff every time as a result.
Cerra's lack of pace and current "third wheel status" in the midfield - going to get squeezed out I reckon.
There was an amazing contest between Ainsworth and a Giants mid in the square, both players went real hard and it was great....I shudder to think about Jagga slammed like that..  He is still very small and light and it was really obvious against the likes of Stone, Callaghan, Daniels etc
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
 

Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS

Reply #65 –
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I shudder to think about Jagga slammed like that..  He is still very small and light and it was really obvious against the likes of Stone, Callaghan, Daniels etc
50 to 75 games is all it takes.
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