Re: RD 3 : Carlton VS Essendon (After Siren Shrieking)
Reply #235 –
It's quite ironic that the people that were bemoaning Ratten's inability to get a gun side into a GF are the same ones now saying we don't have the cattle.
If you're referring to me PI2C I don't recall ever saying that Ratten had a gun side.
The gravest mistake the club made in recent times was sacking a proven coach in 2007 and appointing someone from the 2nd division of the Eastern Districts league with virtually no senior experience.
It has ended in tears, just as some of us knew that it would.
You're kidding about Pagan aren't you. Proven? Proven to get us 2 spoons. It's where the bad culture started as we wouldn't try for him. Unfortunately it becomes habit. The coach from the 2nd division of the EDL produced far better results.
The comparison is ridiculous.
Pagan delisted 17 players at the end of his first season and only Simon Fletcher was picked up, and he played about half a dozen games for Richmond.
That's how bad our list was and we had no draft picks or money, anyone who expected other than wooden spoons back then was living in a fool's paradise.
The bad culture started long before Pagan came to Carlton, we paid a wooden spoon team $2 million over the salary cap remember, but the quick fix mentality has persisted, first by sacking Pagan and now with Malthouse.
The best we can hope for is that the club has learned from its mistakes and that Malthouse is given the time and resources to do the job, but the damage has been so extensive that it will be a long and painful process and I don't think the club or supporters have the bottle for it.