Re: Stand up for yourself and your mates...... Reply #15 – April 08, 2014, 12:11:04 pm Quote from: cimm1979 – on April 08, 2014, 10:51:55 amQuote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 08, 2014, 10:50:05 amWe all watched Dylan Buckley go it alone with Goddard until Jamison strolled in late to push Goddard away but on Footy Classified they also showed an Essendon newbie in Jason Ashby pushing Marc Murphy on the boundary line......its not on and Murphy should have not allowed some pimply faced kid to stand over him....Murphy took it and walked away. We have to get tougher as a team and Murphy has to toughen up as captain or lose the job IMO.Its sends the wrong message to the playing group and to opposing teams......we were/are weak and the Bombers know they can bully us.There's no love in this team EB.They've never backed each other . Hate to say it, but it is true. We do not appear to be a very self cohesive group. In many ways, our inability to work for each other is one of our main issues. Until we believe in each other and work hard for each other, we will not improve significantly.As mentioned elsewhere, we are a pretty introverted group. Therefore we need to recruit some guys who are not introverted and who show real leadership potential. Not always easy to find, but it helps to have more than we do. Quote Selected
Re: Stand up for yourself and your mates...... Reply #16 – April 08, 2014, 12:47:51 pm Quote from: denimundies – on April 08, 2014, 12:02:20 pmQuote from: shadesy – on April 08, 2014, 11:29:10 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 08, 2014, 11:03:58 amHate to say it but Fev wouldn't let anyone stand over our blokes and quite often deployed a few standover tactics himself. Love him or hate him, he was the heart of the side.The culture and improvement of the side has been nothing short of remarkable since his departure.It certainly has. We have become the well behaved, clean skinned models of gentleman sportsmanship both on and off the field. It's no wonder Essendon's blatant disregard for rules pertaining to use of substances in sport has offended Carlton folk more than any other. Both the AFL and some of our own supporters have well and truly achieved a long fought goal, we are now fully reformed and re-cultured. It shows.Yes. Our boys are nice. In fact some are pin-ups... looking good in suits with new hair-styles. We play nothing like those anti-social uncouth hoods at the Dawks. And don't mention those ruffians at the Cattery. Our boys are rightly pampered in state of the art facilities... not like those philistines in Sydney and other lowly clubs about the place.That's right, you won't see our boys engaging in rough-house play on the field... no, no, no. We behave ourselves. Like any good introverted group, we are contained and polite. Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #17 – April 08, 2014, 12:49:47 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 08, 2014, 11:47:49 amQuote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 08, 2014, 11:43:40 amQuote from: shadesy – on April 08, 2014, 11:29:10 amQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 08, 2014, 11:03:58 amHate to say it but Fev wouldn't let anyone stand over our blokes and quite often deployed a few standover tactics himself. Love him or hate him, he was the heart of the side.The culture and improvement of the side has been nothing short of remarkable since his departure.He did well against Essendon though...I think you missed the sarcasm in that one EB! I wasnt sure Carrots so I sat on the fence... Quote Selected
Re: Stand up for yourself and your mates...... Reply #18 – April 08, 2014, 01:24:26 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 08, 2014, 11:03:58 amHate to say it but Fev wouldn't let anyone stand over our blokes and quite often deployed a few standover tactics himself. Love him or hate him, he was the heart of the side.X2.. I thought we did the correct thing but our hardness issues coincided with him leaving. No doubt about it. We basically stopped beating top 4 sides soon after he left. Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #19 – April 08, 2014, 01:26:57 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on April 08, 2014, 12:49:47 pmI wasnt sure Carrots so I sat on the fence... Stop sitting on the fence, stand up for yourself! Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #20 – April 08, 2014, 01:36:11 pm Quote from: ItsOurTime – on April 08, 2014, 01:24:26 pmQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 08, 2014, 11:03:58 amHate to say it but Fev wouldn't let anyone stand over our blokes and quite often deployed a few standover tactics himself. Love him or hate him, he was the heart of the side.X2.. I thought we did the correct thing but our hardness issues coincided with him leaving. No doubt about it. We basically stopped beating top 4 sides soon after he left.Every big win was on the back of Fev's brilliance if you go back and take a look. Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #21 – April 08, 2014, 01:50:30 pm They didn't stand "in the hole" when Fev was around. Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #22 – April 08, 2014, 01:57:14 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 08, 2014, 01:36:11 pmQuote from: ItsOurTime – on April 08, 2014, 01:24:26 pmQuote from: PassIt2Carrots – on April 08, 2014, 11:03:58 amHate to say it but Fev wouldn't let anyone stand over our blokes and quite often deployed a few standover tactics himself. Love him or hate him, he was the heart of the side.X2.. I thought we did the correct thing but our hardness issues coincided with him leaving. No doubt about it. We basically stopped beating top 4 sides soon after he left.Every big win was on the back of Fev's brilliance if you go back and take a look. could turn a games on his own boot, even on bad days he come out in a single Q and change the outcome. None of this bullshiit missing shots for goal from 10 to 25m Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #23 – April 08, 2014, 02:00:04 pm Quote from: denimundies – on April 08, 2014, 01:57:14 pmcould turn a games on his own boot, even on bad days he come out in a single Q and change the outcome. None of this bullshiit missing shots for goal from 10 to 25mWe sort of took it for granted that after he left goal kicking would slide a bit, it made us a bit tolerant.But seriously our goal kicking is a joke now, who is our goal kicking coach, Warnock? Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #24 – April 08, 2014, 02:02:50 pm Quote from: Professer E – on April 08, 2014, 01:50:30 pmThey didn't stand "in the hole" when Fev was around.As Setanta painfully found out. Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #25 – April 08, 2014, 02:05:02 pm Quote from: cookie2 – on April 08, 2014, 02:02:50 pmQuote from: Professer E – on April 08, 2014, 01:50:30 pmThey didn't stand "in the hole" when Fev was around.As Setanta painfully found out. Mav's never forgiven Fev for that one. Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #26 – April 08, 2014, 02:05:13 pm Quote from: LP – on April 08, 2014, 02:00:04 pmQuote from: denimundies – on April 08, 2014, 01:57:14 pmcould turn a games on his own boot, even on bad days he come out in a single Q and change the outcome. None of this bullshiit missing shots for goal from 10 to 25mWe sort of took it for granted that after he left goal kicking would slide a bit, it made us a bit tolerant.But seriously our goal kicking is a joke now, who is our goal kicking coach, Warnock?Even my wife thinks they can't kick and she knows SFA about footy. Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #27 – April 08, 2014, 02:15:49 pm Quote from: cookie2 – on April 08, 2014, 02:02:50 pmQuote from: Professer E – on April 08, 2014, 01:50:30 pmThey didn't stand "in the hole" when Fev was around.As Setanta painfully found out. That had been coming for sometime, it was bad but you could see Fev getting frustrated with O'hAilpin who would cut across in front of him and bring the defenders in with him. Entry after entry, week after week. There had been other remonstrations in the forward line before that day, not just Fev and O'hAilpin but Scotland, Cloke, Simpson and Stevens had all had a crack at big Carlos. Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #28 – April 08, 2014, 03:08:34 pm Any chance our guys could start shepherding and blocking opponents so their team mates can get a run at / with the ball? Quote Selected
Re: Stand Up For Yourself & Your Mates ...... Reply #29 – April 08, 2014, 03:22:51 pm Quote from: Jofo – on April 08, 2014, 03:08:34 pmAny chance our guys could start shepherding and blocking opponents so their team mates can get a run at / with the ball? I hope so, it stands out doesn't it?On Sunday night there was a prime example of how this affects the team. There was a kick out from D50 to Curnow on the HFF/Wing, it went over his head and he was running with the flight. Curnow could have easily ran onto that ball, marked it and kept going, he only had one laboring spud Scummer following him who Curonw could have easily burn off. Instead Curnow let the ball bounce, it bounced backwards to his trailing Scum shadow as it tends to do, and was turned over for a cheap ar5e Scum goal.Curnow let that ball bounce because he had no confidence, no faith, no communications and no experience of others in the team sacrificing themselves for the betterment of the club. If we protected each other, the way the Dawks protect each other, if we gave some chop outs and some shepherds, he would have run onto that ball and into our open F50 without fear!Sometimes football is that simple!Of our current list only Scotland and Armfield do the good stuff regularly, the rest I fear are Sunday drivers, even Robbo! Quote Selected Last Edit: April 08, 2014, 03:25:11 pm by LP