I got to see our blokes challenged but in a close one, steel themselves for a good win (3 goals).
Nice sitting on the blue wooden seats on the cemetry side watching a good game... warm sun streaming down.
Had a giggle at 3/4 time when coach got his players together for the big talk before resuming for the final quarter... Coach: 'How are we using the ball?' Robbo: 'Fkn around too much.' Coach: 'Exactly right'.
Getting home in time to watch this poor excuse for a game... how undisciplined and confused do our blokes look. Someone previous commented that it looked like the Pagan years - yes. Agree. And gee we really are starting to get into the habit of carrying blokes. Murph looks like he's trying to play to an instruction rather than using any of his natural abilities. Are we trying to mould a fox into a tiger?
Woops... forgot Graham - good, again, but looked a little tired at times. Tried up forward as a 'small forward' and looked likely, though on one occasion, running into an open goal tried to do the team thing with a cute pass to a team mate that went astray.
...and Robbo - was really disciplined and focussed. Took a terrific attitude into the game - good to see. Encouraging to team mates.
You'd look hard at, for a call up: Robbo Meat ROK Dinger (interesting that all 4 have a dash of mongrel and are hard at it).
Good win. Sandy came hard in the last qtr kicking the 1st 3 of the term bringing them within 2 kicks, but the NBs steadied, eventually though still losing the last qtr by a goal.
Lambert, Meece, Bransgrove and Wilson were really good for the Preston boys.
Thought our best of the Senior listed players were (forget some of the stats and in no particular order):
Ellard - good return.
Bell - best game for a while - put his hand up.
ROK - good off HB. Strong. Seems to be doing a 2E role - being groomed to release 2E into the guts?
Davies - apart from mediocre disposal, once of his much better games off HB. Ran and linked up well.
Mitchell - Waste.
Casboult - took some good grabs and kicking has improved greatly. When chasing an opponent at one stage ran past Mitchell (who was also chasing) like he was standing still.
Lucas - might have had plenty of touches but ordinary decisions under pressure. Still skirting the packs for easy possessions.
Buckley - was he out there?
Joseph - good. Liked his game. Has improved.
Collins - did some classy things but way too little. No second effort.
Dale - given minding roles, especially on one of their most damaging players in the final quarter - did well, though still learning the caper in terms of defensive positioning.
Can't remember Mick calling him selfish. He criticised him for showing signs of injury. Of course Mick in the commentary box was in a great position to tell just how Yazz was feeling. Let's face it, the guy hasn't got the best record when it comes to Chris Yarran
Mick called him selfish.
Essentially he said the way he carried on while injured was not good. It shows a weakness to the opposition. He didn't need to carry on the way he did.
Its the same reason why Mick said what he said recently in regards to Murphy and injuries etc.
All players who take the field are 100% fit. Implying anything other than that is showing weakness. Mick is all about the psychology of battle. Show a strong, united front at all times.
This is his issue with Yarran and his injury. It went against his mantra and in his opinion was selfish for not sucking it up and putting the team first.
Nonetheless, whatever MM puts out in the media is by far and away more likely BS than reality.
Nuh. Seems to me that whatever MM puts out into the media is subjected to many filters within his bonce. MM is not a complicated person... first and foremost (which Eddie didn't understand) is that this bloke loves being in the trenches. He is a general of troops. He is a student of battle. Hence, the media is only a part of his strategy... he will be honest and straightforward, and he will be coy or even evasive.
Murf's been getting his knee drained after every match. This points to a structural problem that won't get better on its own.
Sounds like something Kreuzer was doing last season and he continued to be flogged here. I also remember him having a knee reconstruction too. Not forgetting his issues with his hip. Ooops sorry I forgot to say poor Marc and his knee and his cheekbone.
Season gone. Get him off and get him better. Bring Graham and any other new kids who need a run. In fact get any player off who is underdone. They are not helping us win games. They are in fact costing us games. Give the Captains hat to Simpson. Give him back some respect for how he has turned his season around. A thank you for his work rate of late.
Don't get me wrong here guys. I love Marc to bits. I hope he gets better and past his best which he will execute in the future. He hasn't even seen his true, full potential. Just won't be reading way too many Poor Marc stories, when others before him have had bad runs of luck and have not always had supporters, media and others give them a break. When they have bad patches, they are labelled bad number 1 draft picks. Get better soon Murphs. Tell your coach you can't play FFS. Grow a pair and tell him you don't want to let the squad down. Its considered tough to play with pain. Its considered selfish to play for the sake of playing and letting others carry the workload. If this is true Mick, cut him some bloody slack. He'll pay you back twice and three times in return.
Sorry Marc, I didn't mean to pay out on you. I'm just angry Special-K wasn't given much slack in his times of hidden injuries.
If true (not questioning you, BB), this is deplorable. It is one of the great truisms of footy - do not take blokes who 'too' injured into games. Marc Murph... shut up and rule yourself out. Sometimes the ultimate team thing is to realise you're not up to it and say so. MM, if you're playing this bloke with this knowledge - stop! Stop being pigheaded and take a risk - give Bell, Graham or O'Keefe the challenge. If it means we write off 2013, so be it. The long term benefits will be worth it.
Here are some stats on Yarran comparing last year to this year. Last year he was a backman. This year he is a forward.
Averages... Disposals 2012 - 14.7 per game 2013 - 10.3
Goals 2012 - 0.5 2013 - 1.4
Tackles 2012 - 1.7 2013 - 3.8
Contested possesions 2012 - 4.1 2013 - 4.7
...and finally the % of his possessions that are contested 2012 - 28% 2013 - 44%
So although his overall possessions are down a touch from last year, he is kicking more goals (as you'd expect being forward now) but also laying double the amount of tackles he was laying last year.
Overall he is getting more hard ball per game, but overall he is getting a lot more hard ball and less easy ball compared to last year.
So the stats say that he is laying more tackles, getting more hard ball and obviously hitting the scoreboard more.
So tell me how it is exactly he is going backwards again?
Compelling stats. I also believe he is better this year than last. But can he take that next most important step - from me, to us?
CY is 22 yo ffs and had a pretty darn hard life as a kid......
Some of you blokes really have no f'n idea (not directed at you personally Baggers)'
Get this guy right and he is a match winning 300 game champion for CFC but nah, most of you want to trade him now for a bag of peanuts.
What dumb ass stuff were you guys churning out at 22 yo?
I'd trade Murphy out first quite frankly on current output (if it was MM vs CY choice only)
No probs, FB, didn't take it personally. I hope you're right; would love you to be right... he maybe (due to his harsh upbringing) still somewhat immature. He's got a few weeks to prove we doubters wrong and I hope he does - love to be hugely wrong on this one and end up with lots of googy on face.
Nah it's different rules for different players, that's what's so annoying but nobody gets it. You can only say it so many times.
You are starting to sound like Jimbo.
You can say it repeatedly, how about backing it up with some facts.
What i am hearing from you is that Yarran has been ruined by Mick Malthouse and that he was an out and and star under Ratten. Your opinion, and so be it.
No, what I'm saying is he was developing nicely under Ratts but has gone backwards under Malthouse. I think he's lost all passion, and more importantly all confidence. It took Ratts a good few years to build up Yazz's confidence and it seems Mick's undone it all in a few months. IMO.
What's wrong with Jimbo anyway?
I recall quite clearly Yazz playing for the NBs last year and he was pathetic. His attitude (and this is under Ratts, to respond to what you write above) stunk. He was blasted by team mates and was the very personification of petulance. He was booed by our supporters from the ground... then was rewarded with senior selection the following week! FMD! However, this year when he spent time in the twos, he actually tried hard and got dirty. He is better under MM, but clearly has some attitude problems. Maybe he can only be a one way, prima donna
It was wrong to make him sub, yes a mistake by Mick. Mick has frrkd this one up as much as many wont accept it.
You missed it. I will give you another chance.
Goat. How do you think the top clubs would have dealt with Yarrans behaviour?
The behaviour was a result of an action, they wouldn't have made sub, or if they did communicate exactly why and what the expectation is. Whether that happened or not we don't know.
What does this even mean? Can you re-write this in proper English. I could however take a guess and say that it is not the player's fault that he performed so poorly after being subbed. It is the Coach's fault. Correct?
If so..let's not drop anyone ever again for not meeting expectations. In fact, lets have the players pick the team..but then who do we blame if they do not perform?!
Seriously....as we say in Ireland..catch yourself on mate.
Yarran is an ADULT. Not a Boy. He is professional adult paid via sponsorship and our Membership money to perform at his best and his coaches expectations - week in week out. If he does not put his body on the line and toe the company line then he can go and get stuffed. Talent is nothing without buy-in. We have too many Peacocks in this team already. He either steps up or he will be traded for someone who gives a crap.
There you go... good gear. It's called accountability and the top clubs have heaps of it, along with leadership buy-in from all players on the track - not just the leadership group.
Speaking of toughening up, I notice Matt Thomas is an unrestricted free agent... got the kind of hardness we need and no doubt would love being back home rather than stuck in 1985.
Colder than a politician's promise at Frangerland this arvo. Worst grandstand, in terms of visibility, in the known universe.
Franger won 16-8 to NBs 13-13.
We lost this game in the first half with what could only be described as woeful disposal and decision making... handed them goals, easy goals, silly goals.
We really didn't look likely until Buckley copped an elbow to the head which fired up the side. We should have won as we really did dominate the game in most respects just way too many terrible errors in the first half. Our tackling and pressure on the opponent from late in the 2nd qtr onward was really good... forced them into plenty of errors.
Buckley - in everything. Showed his class with some good run and great snap goal. The boy is quick and I amazed that his skinny legs can kick a footy so far! Levi - presented well and clunked a few. Worked hard in the ruck but made some really dumb decisions in front of goal trying to snap across his body. Like most of his mates, got better as the game progressed. Casper - busy and worked hard on the ball. Boots - really good. If not for his defensive work it could have been very ugly. Wish he'd back his judgment at times and mark rather than spoil. Graham - got caught a few times today as Franger seemed to really sit on him... still got lots of the aggot and seldom wasted a disposal. Marcon, Gianfagna, Lambert, Bransgrove and Wilson - these Preston boys really did work hard and showed some of the CFC boys -- especially early -- how to work hard. Wilson almost single handedly kept us in the game early on. ROK worked hard but hasn't got his touch back yet... just good to see him get another game under his belt. At least, especially early, his kicks to position hit a team mate on the chest. Warnock - did some good things but failed to deliver what he should. Visser replaced him in the last quarter and did better! Bell - reminds me a little of Robbo in terms of disposal... just blazes away at times and even when he intends to kick it to a team mate it can go anywhere. Still too rough around the edges for mine. Mitchell - took a couple of marks but was generally a waste of space. Could see him working harder but just fails to impose himself on the contest and does not take marks he should. As RR has mentioned, he just fails to get off the ground when contesting for a mark. He got some good delivery but failed to capitalise. Davies - solid in defence. Temay - did some very good things later in the game ...starting to show what folks have talked about. His size worries me though, just too small. Menzel - has that freakish edge and has a defensive game! Flashed in and out of the game but what he did had class (except for one horrible shot on goal). Joseph - liked his game and along with Bootsma, was one of our much better defenders.
I think it is a poor show when a Coach attacks his players - as Mick did last night! What he might say to them in private is one matter, but to be critical publically reveals he has lost it. He ought to apologize What would happen if players criticized the team selections?
I think it's a great when Mick criticizes his players publicly. We do it on this forum and for me, Micks public criticism informs us that he is seeing what we are. If any one should apologise, it's the players like Murphy, Betts, Yarran, Gibbs, Rowe etc. that didn't put in and were a disgrace to themselves and the club. If players criticized team selections, they would get dropped. And deservedly so. That's what would happen.
I want blokes playing for our club that give 100%, 100% of the time, not a pack of Primma Donnas that can't cop a public bake from their coach.
