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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Baggers -
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One thing i noticed last night is that Swans had 3 AFL coaches on game day. Cox, Goodwin and Cameron.

Where is the support for Voss? He has been set up to fail.

Mr Simpson is there...I'm sure he'll have some feedback ;)

Simmo has made it clear that's really not his game day role, plus, he's only there once a week.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Baggers -
I don't get the doom and gloom. Too many 'throwing out the baby with bathwater' comments here at the mo.

Yes, a horrible 3rd qtr and yes, we didn't capitalize on our first half dominance.

This was the first game in real heat for our 'new' group, coaches included. Need to see the bigger picture and a perspective over weeks, not one game. The bottom line, we're a work in progress after so many changes - whereas the Fluffy Ducks are ready to challenge for a top 4 spot.

Vossy's first words in his media conference were that our intensity dropped in the 3rd and they dialled up their pressure. That's about mental toughness and discipline... issues that still remain. Our new coaches saw, first hand, that vulnerability - get to work, fellas.

The game plan is good, however last night we were a few blokes short on executing it well - Fogarty and Young in particular. An aging Saad has lost his effectiveness. Reidy aint ready for senior footy. They were our bottom four on the night.

Moir needs a breakout game - he's teasingly close. A concern.

We lacked a 'spark' player last night -- the Fluffy Ducks had Papley -- to capitalize on forward entries and bring serious emotion to the forward line - we were a flat forward bunch last night. For mine, our spark players are Frankie Evans and Talor Byrne. These two can also create something out of nothing. Ainsworth is an excellent addition. Kempy fumbled the fck out of the aggot at critical moments but will find his feet and confidence in time  - there were enough promising signs.

Personally, I'd have H as the 2nd ruck, it brings him into the game and will raise his confidence. And Pitto has shown he's no slouch around goals.

And what the fck does going forward with humility, mean... (which I've heard us say)? What a crock of crap. There are wonderful and important places for humility... however going forward in a gladiatorial sport aint one of them. Humility can undermine boldness and even confidence. Be humble in victory, but not in game. Be bold, disciplined, focussed and ruthless in game.





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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Lods -
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Yes, more coach churn is definitely the answer.

Paul im as change averse as anyone, but sometimes you have to acknowledge when your coach just doesnt have us on the right trajectory.

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The Swans rammed home 12 goals to four, with the 75 points scored making it the equal third-greatest quarter in terms of points since 1999. It was the AFL's highest-scoring quarter since round six, 2011.

We have had a fairly solid upheaval, but we were without an answer to that and its just not good enough for even the worst side in the AFL.

He has time to fix it, but if you had 10 factors to weigh up when making considerations of Voss future this is one of them.

Like MBB says, lose to Richmond and Voss is well and truly in the gun.

One of the things that is really hurting him is these ridiculous runs other sides get on, often when we've fought hard to get to a comfortable lead.
Sitting back as supporters we get four or five goals in front but it's become almost an expectation that the other side will get a run on and swamp us.
The problem is it's not a new problem and even changing a third of the side has had no effect in overcoming it.

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Robert Heatley Stand / AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by crashlander -
I hate Thursday night football. Not only can't I get to it often enough to matter, but we lose the vast majority of the games. I can think of only one game that we've won that I haven't got to, and only a couple of wins in the few that I could get to.

Then there was last night, where we appear to have improved in no way. We ran out of gas. Our initial strategies might have been OK, but we don't react to changes in the game. Our disposal to our forwards was questionable. Our match-ups didn't work. We didn't stop the opposition play makers from having an influence.
When Sydney got on top in the middle, we were dead meat.

So, what can we do about it?
Well, Richmond are no Sydney, so hopefully we can find something. If we lose this one, we are in serious trouble.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by LP -
If you go back and watch the replay, you'll find Swans dobbing goals from on or outside the F50 arc, that's a night out and they were on a high.

In contrast we spent most of the first half working into a similar range and failed to score at all, so as I see it the problem wasn't the 3rd quarter, it was the non-scoring first half.

Even BigH refused to pull the trigger on shots from 50m and he can easily cover that distance, Gov ran through CHF and put the footy to the top of the square, we looked indecisive and hesitant, that's a headspace issue not a lack of capability.

Do we have a player who can kick out to the F50 arc, and be running past to receive a handball a split second later before the mark is even set? Because what Gulden did is going to be the new tactic under the current stand rule. A slow kick to advantage, then run your guts out to receive knowing the opposition can't approach that zone without giving away a 50m penalty. By midway through this season every club with runners capable of kicking from FB will be doing this, and to those of us exposed to Gaelic Footy it will seem familiar.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: PaulP – on
Yes, more coach churn is definitely the answer.

Paul im as change averse as anyone, but sometimes you have to acknowledge when your coach just doesnt have us on the right trajectory.

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The Swans rammed home 12 goals to four, with the 75 points scored making it the equal third-greatest quarter in terms of points since 1999. It was the AFL's highest-scoring quarter since round six, 2011.

We have had a fairly solid upheaval, but we were without an answer to that and its just not good enough for even the worst side in the AFL.

He has time to fix it, but if you had 10 factors to weigh up when making considerations of Voss future this is one of them.

Like MBB says, lose to Richmond and Voss is well and truly in the gun.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by LP -
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There were rumours around last year that some players were glad to see the back of Curnow. They gave it to him during the game but all the 'key' players seemed to have no issue having a hug, and a handshake, and a grin after the game.
Charlie seemed a little emotional.
I'm not sure Charlie's issues were with the playing group so much as with other areas of the club.
I understand that perspective, but the surrounding abhorrent commentary is completely disconnected from reality, win or lose it is ruining the game!

I think part of the problem is that the commentary team, due to the nepotistic nature, is bored with the athleticism and physicality, because as old boys they have done it as a job for years and years for it to become ho hum. So they focus on what titillates them, the bitch laps, the social burns and the emotions, crap most of the public do not give a rat's clacker about. I suspect most of the commentary crew would prefer to watch an episode of MAFS than watch and attend another game of footy!

Gulden tore us a new one and barely a comment about it today, most of the media focusses on Charlie throwing Cripps to the ground, Florent not shaking hands and allegations of spiteful behaviour.