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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Most of the expensive brands are now made in China as are all of the batteries, I was a Makita fan as they were mid ranged priced and reliable and were USA and Japanese made but now they have joined the other brands in getting their stuff assembled in China. Think you can still buy Japanese made Makita in Japan but its very hard to get.
Not a fan of anything Bosch, a family friend had a Bosch dishwasher that set fire and burnt down part of their house but Bosch were unhelpful and their customer service poor as they tried to avoid responsibility even though the control board in the door setting fire was a known problem.
Had a liking for Hilti and Hitachi power tools back in the day as we had them at work for the elec fitters/linesman/techs but they were at the expensive end of the scale so Makita got a lot of my business.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by Thryleon -
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bosch.

Depends on the use case too.  Go through any decent materials and it gets a bit hard.

Green or blue?

Blue is the tradie stuff.
Green is the DIY stuff....and even then there is a difference between some blue atuff sold at bunnings and some blue stuff you buy at a tool store. My mate found that out the hard way.

Bosch blue is decent. You want to have 18V stuff as a minimum for power tools, and higher Ah gives higher runtime, but also better peak power over its charge cycle.
 
There is also some different versions of their batteries....i believe the procore is the newest and best one. They had a a 36 or 40v one for the power tgirsty stuff too.

Essentially if its bogging down youve got the wrong battery.
ive got the green ones. Power for all 18v lithium ion. Im not complaining about them they do the job, i needed a drill when my motor blew up and picked up a pack at bunnings that was 150 when we renovated our house back in 2015.  Came with a drill and an impact driver, two natteries and a tool bag.  I knew at the time the blue was better but the tools were so much more expensive i just went with the weekend warrior stuff and its served me well.  Got the jig saw, circular saw, reciprocating saw and a bunch of other stuff really cheap when masters went under.  Their hedge trimmer is fantastic, its the blower thats chewing through juice.   Drills are fine, the electric saw is mixed (circular is only good for small jobs but thats fine for me as ive got a table saw with a makita circular saw, and ive also got a hand me down ryobi that was bought from mcewans which is going to outlive me (both ac powered).  I know about the amp battery differences but until the blower changing batteries has been fine. Ive had these tools a while but the blower is the first one where I have 5 batteries and have not been able to finish the job without waiting for batteries to charge (the grey ghost gum that dropped its bark is the main reason why though). 

I try to buy good affordable tools rather than cheap shut which is why bosch green fit the bill. 

Ultimately whilst you can get bigger batteries and tools that will do that job like you guys say its a cost benefit thing.  If I had more expensive tools with bigger batteries odds are I wouldnt have made much use of them (and those batteries would likely be half dead by now anyway).




Im not complaining about them overly.   They do the job but observationally some tools are better than others and it would be true across any manufacturer.  Not because the tools are better or worse, they give you more cutting power or blowing power to go with the increased amp battery. 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: Lods – on
Trump's letter to the Prime Minister of Norway. ::)  ::)

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“Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America.

“Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a ‘right of ownership’ anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also.

“I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT”

I think Unca Donald needs a cup of tea and a lie down.
That level of thinking is at kindergarten level
How long can this bloke stay in charge.
He's clearly lost the plot (which he never really had in the first place.)
The problem is, those capable of removing him are like minded minions or lack the fortitude to do what's right

A petulant baby-man, complete with nappy.

What I find interesting, and just a little frightening, is Taco's inability to conceptualise anything other than "hot" women, gratification, personal affronts, deals, and revenge.

Satire is a bridge too far  ::)
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: Lods – on
Trump's letter to the Prime Minister of Norway. ::)  ::)

Quote
“Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America.

“Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a ‘right of ownership’ anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also.

“I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT”

I think Unca Donald needs a cup of tea and a lie down.
That level of thinking is at kindergarten level
How long can this bloke stay in charge.
He's clearly lost the plot (which he never really had in the first place.)
The problem is, those capable of removing him are like minded minions or lack the fortitude to do what's right
surely thats satire
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Lods -
Trump's letter to the Prime Minister of Norway. ::)  ::)

Quote
“Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America.

“Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a ‘right of ownership’ anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also.

“I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT”

I think Unca Donald needs a cup of tea and a lie down.
That level of thinking is at kindergarten level
How long can this bloke stay in charge.
He's clearly lost the plot (which he never really had in the first place.)
The problem is, those capable of removing him are like minded minions or lack the fortitude to do what's right
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by northernblue -
Thry, 2.5ah is like an electric toothbrush for a power tool battery, I wouldn’t bother using anything less than than 5ah, I also have 9ah, that’s AEG register online and it’s 3+3 warrantee.
I’m not aware of the quality being different between stores… possibly “exclusive” models perhaps ?
Milwaukee, AEG and Ryobi are all owned by the same company apparently.
I’m told the tech starts in the Milwaukee brand and gets handed down to AEG then Ryobi, I can’t verify that.
I did have an AEG 125mm grinder that the switch had crapped out so I put it in for repair (out of warrantee) quote was $200 !
$230 later and a new grinder…
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
It's interesting about the "where you buy" issue, because they all look basically the same on the outside, but they aren't the same on the inside.

FWIW, all the brands do it, Milwaukee, Dewalt, Bosch, Makita, Hitachi, etc., etc.. they have a big box store quality and a trade quality. You do not really see the difference until you either pull them apart or go to have them repaired.

The Bosch Pro Brushless stuff is pretty good, but I don't think you can buy that series from Bunnings although I believe with the start of Toolkit Depo that may be changing. Also once you register Bosch Pro Series on the Bosch-Pt website you get a 5 or 7 year warranty on most things. That was the main reason we went with Bosch Pro at our work, most other brands limit commercial or trade warranty to 6 months or 1 year.

But we always have the debate, should you buy the cheaper tool and replace it every year, or buy the better tools that lasts a few years. The answer is not straight forward if you are close to replacement suppliers, but if you work remotely the better tools are the go.