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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards.
Nah it's different rules for different players, that's what's so annoying but nobody gets it. You can only say it so many times.

You are starting to sound like Jimbo.

You can say it repeatedly, how about backing it up with some facts.

What i am hearing from you is that Yarran has been ruined by Mick Malthouse and that he was an out and and star under Ratten. Your opinion, and so be it.

No, what I'm saying is he was developing nicely under Ratts but has gone backwards under Malthouse. I think he's lost all passion, and more importantly all confidence. It took Ratts a good few years to build up Yazz's confidence and it seems Mick's undone it all in a few months. IMO.

What's wrong with Jimbo anyway? :P

I recall quite clearly Yazz playing for the NBs last year and he was pathetic. His attitude (and this is under Ratts, to respond to what you write above) stunk. He was blasted by team mates and was the very personification of petulance. He was booed by our supporters from the ground... then was rewarded with senior selection the following week! FMD! However, this year when he spent time in the twos, he actually tried hard and got dirty. He is better under MM, but clearly has some attitude problems. Maybe he can only be a one way, prima donna :-\
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Chris Yarran has gone backwards.
It was wrong to make him sub, yes a mistake by Mick.  Mick has frrkd this one up as much as many wont accept it.

You missed it.   I will give you another chance.

Goat.    How do you think the top clubs would have dealt with Yarrans behaviour?
The behaviour was a result of an action, they wouldn't have made sub, or if they did communicate exactly why and what the expectation is. Whether that happened or not we don't know.

What does this even mean? Can you re-write this in proper English. I could however take a guess and say that it is not the player's fault that he performed so poorly after being subbed. It is the Coach's fault. Correct?

If so..let's not drop anyone ever again for not meeting expectations. In fact, lets have the players pick the team..but then who do we blame if they do not perform?!

Seriously....as we say in Ireland..catch yourself on mate.

Yarran is an ADULT. Not a Boy.
He is professional adult paid via sponsorship and our Membership money to perform at his best and his coaches expectations - week in week out. If he does not put his body on the line and toe the company line then he can go and get stuffed. Talent is nothing without buy-in. We have too many Peacocks in this team already. He either steps up or he will be traded for someone who gives a crap.

There you go... good gear. It's called accountability and the top clubs have heaps of it, along with leadership buy-in from all players on the track - not just the leadership group.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Toughening up the princesses?
Speaking of toughening up, I notice Matt Thomas is an unrestricted free agent... got the kind of hardness we need and no doubt would love being back home rather than stuck in 1985.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Baby Blues vs. Frankston at Frankston on Sunday
Colder than a politician's promise at Frangerland this arvo. Worst grandstand, in terms of visibility, in the known universe.

Franger won 16-8 to NBs 13-13.

We lost this game in the first half with what could only be described as woeful disposal and decision making... handed them goals, easy goals, silly goals.

We really didn't look likely until Buckley copped an elbow to the head which fired up the side. We should have won as we really did dominate the game in most respects just way too many terrible errors in the first half. Our tackling and pressure on the opponent from late in the 2nd qtr onward was really good... forced them into plenty of errors.

Buckley - in everything. Showed his class with some good run and great snap goal. The boy is quick and I amazed that his skinny legs can kick a footy so far!
Levi - presented well and clunked a few. Worked hard in the ruck but made some really dumb decisions in front of goal trying to snap across his body. Like most of his mates, got better as the game progressed.
Casper - busy and worked hard on the ball.
Boots - really good. If not for his defensive work it could have been very ugly. Wish he'd back his judgment at times and mark rather than spoil.
Graham - got caught a few times today as Franger seemed to really sit on him... still got lots of the aggot and seldom wasted a disposal.
Marcon, Gianfagna, Lambert, Bransgrove and Wilson - these Preston boys really did work hard and showed some of the CFC boys -- especially early -- how to work hard. Wilson almost single handedly kept us in the game early on.
ROK worked hard but hasn't got his touch back yet... just good to see him get another game under his belt. At least, especially early, his kicks to position hit a team mate on the chest.
Warnock - did some good things but failed to deliver what he should. Visser replaced him in the last quarter and did better!
Bell - reminds me a little of Robbo in terms of disposal... just blazes away at times and even when he intends to kick it to a team mate it can go anywhere. Still too rough around the edges for mine.
Mitchell - took a couple of marks but was generally a waste of space. Could see him working harder but just fails to impose himself on the contest and does not take marks he should. As RR has mentioned, he just fails to get off the ground when contesting for a mark. He got some good delivery but failed to capitalise.
Davies - solid in defence.
Temay - did some very good things later in the game ...starting to show what folks have talked about. His size worries me though, just too small.
Menzel - has that freakish edge and has a defensive game! Flashed in and out of the game but what he did had class (except for one horrible shot on goal).
Joseph - liked his game and along with Bootsma, was one of our much better defenders.

Duigan (susp) and Laidler did not play.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Channel your anger
I think it is a poor show when a Coach attacks his players - as Mick did last night!
What he might say to them in private is one matter, but to be critical publically reveals he has lost it.
He ought to apologize
What would happen if players criticized the team selections?

I think it's a great when Mick criticizes his players publicly. We do it on this forum and for me, Micks public criticism informs us that he is seeing what we are. If any one should apologise, it's the players like Murphy, Betts, Yarran, Gibbs, Rowe etc. that didn't put in and were a disgrace to themselves and the club.
If players criticized team selections, they would get dropped. And deservedly so. That's what would happen.

I want blokes playing for our club that give 100%, 100% of the time, not a pack of Primma Donnas that can't cop a public bake from their coach.

Exactly.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 19 : Blues Lose To Frockers (Aftermatch Angst)
Were were truly outed tonight......outclassed, outgunned, outplayed, outrun, outtackled etc etc.
Start preparing for next year boys, this one's gorrn! Some of you will surely be gorrn from CFC too.
A lot of home truths established tonight.

Right, succinct and true. Now we know how ordinary we are/where we really are. 10-12th would be our ladder position. Even if we fluked a finals appearance, we would only embarrass ourselves.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 19 : Blues Lose To Frockers (Aftermatch Angst)
"they were harder & more desperate"

"they belted us through the middle"

"we got absolutely nothing from our small forwards"

"they are a Top 4 team and it clearly shows the gap between us & the Top 4 teams"

"I can't think of any of our midfielders who would be in the Top 6 players in the match"

"we need a massive improvement on tonights performance, we'll just worry about the Bulldogs next week and not the other games"



Malthouse being interviewed by Richo post-match.

Reckon MM put the Fluffy Ducks game down to an aberration... now he knows he's inherited publicity hungry & savvy girls.

When M. Watson becomes your big forward hope... oh, dear...

...the captaincy responsibility is killing Murph... just about everyone on this site knew that (Murph is not a Skipper), how come our club did not know that? This is infurating.  >:( >:( >:(

I would favour burying this season and getting games into Graham, Menzel, Buckley, Bell, Casboult, Warnock & O'Keefe.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 19 : Blues Lose To Frockers (Aftermatch Angst)
Tonight we met an undermanned D1ckers unit, on our dung heap and they pulled down our dacks.

But, nothing to worry about... our President said we have a great list.

Forget finals.

MM, stop making excuses and painting an optimistic view of progress. This side will not deliver you a top 4 result or better.

Time to be ruthless at the trade and assistant coach table.

As for on-field leadership... >:( :( >:( :( >:( :( >:( :( >:( :( >:( :(

But the problem remains (mainly) between our ears because some weeks we do turn up?

You are right, but, when we experience bona fide defensive pressure, we go to water... and that is about culture/personnel. :)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 19 : Blues Lose To Frockers (Aftermatch Angst)
Tonight we met an undermanned D1ckers unit, on our dung heap and they pulled down our dacks.

But, nothing to worry about... our President said we have a great list.

Forget finals.

MM, stop making excuses and painting an optimistic view of progress. This side will not deliver you a top 4 result or better.

Time to be ruthless at the trade and assistant coach table.

As for on-field leadership... >:( :( >:( :( >:( :( >:( :( >:( :( >:( :(
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Robert Heatley Stand / Northern Blues v Frankston
I noticed this wasn't up yet, so I lept in... sorry CRASH.

This game is in Frankston at 2pm at Frankston Oval, Frankston, Sunday Aug 4th.

B   Davies   Coulson*   Joseph

HB   O'Keeffe   Bootsma   Posar

C   Menzel   Lambert   A. Gianfagna

HF   Thomas   F. Dale   Temay

F   Buckley   Casboult   Wilson

R   Warnock   T. Bell   Graham

Int   Lincoln   Marcon   McDonald   Visser   Dirago   Meese   Mitchell   Dorman   Bransgrove

Looking forward to shlepping down to 'Franganistan' to watch this one... from the grandstand that looks terrific from outside but is near useless to watch a game from!!!!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The CSC Music Appreciation Thread
[flash=200,200]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/2IZ9feKpJkk[/flash]

Seeing as we're going down memory lane, I bought my first cassette player in Papua New Guinea in 1972 and one of the few decent cassettes I could buy was Chain's "Towards the Blues".

While I was out scrambling up and down the highlands, one of my comrades, who had been 'casevacced' with a 'sore ankle', was lazing in the Lae barracks and playing 'Black and Blue' over and over until he wore out my cassette.  Every time I hear 'Black and Blue' I think about humping a 25 set radio through the New Guinea highlands  :)

DJC... Black & Blue is one of my all time faves. Matt Taylor... Chain...now we're talking.