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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 20: Carlton V Bulldogs (Pre-Game)
I'd make Betts or Yarran the sub - Yaz, in particular, must be on his last chance to avoid being omitted.
No argument here.
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I'd make Betts or Yarran the sub - Yaz, in particular, must be on his last chance to avoid being omitted.
Can't remember Mick calling him selfish. He criticised him for showing signs of injury. Of course Mick in the commentary box was in a great position to tell just how Yazz was feeling. Let's face it, the guy hasn't got the best record when it comes to Chris Yarran
Mick called him selfish.
Essentially he said the way he carried on while injured was not good. It shows a weakness to the opposition. He didn't need to carry on the way he did.
Its the same reason why Mick said what he said recently in regards to Murphy and injuries etc.
All players who take the field are 100% fit. Implying anything other than that is showing weakness. Mick is all about the psychology of battle. Show a strong, united front at all times.
This is his issue with Yarran and his injury. It went against his mantra and in his opinion was selfish for not sucking it up and putting the team first.
Nonetheless, whatever MM puts out in the media is by far and away more likely BS than reality.
Murf's been getting his knee drained after every match. This points to a structural problem that won't get better on its own.
Sounds like something Kreuzer was doing last season and he continued to be flogged here. I also remember him having a knee reconstruction too. Not forgetting his issues with his hip. Ooops sorry I forgot to say poor Marc and his knee and his cheekbone.
Season gone. Get him off and get him better. Bring Graham and any other new kids who need a run. In fact get any player off who is underdone. They are not helping us win games. They are in fact costing us games. Give the Captains hat to Simpson. Give him back some respect for how he has turned his season around. A thank you for his work rate of late.
Don't get me wrong here guys. I love Marc to bits. I hope he gets better and past his best which he will execute in the future. He hasn't even seen his true, full potential. Just won't be reading way too many Poor Marc stories, when others before him have had bad runs of luck and have not always had supporters, media and others give them a break. When they have bad patches, they are labelled bad number 1 draft picks. Get better soon Murphs. Tell your coach you can't play FFS. Grow a pair and tell him you don't want to let the squad down. Its considered tough to play with pain. Its considered selfish to play for the sake of playing and letting others carry the workload. If this is true Mick, cut him some bloody slack. He'll pay you back twice and three times in return.
Sorry Marc, I didn't mean to pay out on you. I'm just angry Special-K wasn't given much slack in his times of hidden injuries.
Here are some stats on Yarran comparing last year to this year.
Last year he was a backman.
This year he is a forward.
Averages...
Disposals
2012 - 14.7 per game
2013 - 10.3
Goals
2012 - 0.5
2013 - 1.4
Tackles
2012 - 1.7
2013 - 3.8
Contested possesions
2012 - 4.1
2013 - 4.7
...and finally the % of his possessions that are contested
2012 - 28%
2013 - 44%
So although his overall possessions are down a touch from last year, he is kicking more goals (as you'd expect being forward now) but also laying double the amount of tackles he was laying last year.
Overall he is getting more hard ball per game, but overall he is getting a lot more hard ball and less easy ball compared to last year.
So the stats say that he is laying more tackles, getting more hard ball and obviously hitting the scoreboard more.
So tell me how it is exactly he is going backwards again?
CY is 22 yo ffs and had a pretty darn hard life as a kid......
Some of you blokes really have no f'n idea (not directed at you personally Baggers)'
Get this guy right and he is a match winning 300 game champion for CFC but nah, most of you want to trade him now for a bag of peanuts.
What dumb ass stuff were you guys churning out at 22 yo?
I'd trade Murphy out first quite frankly on current output (if it was MM vs CY choice only)
Nah it's different rules for different players, that's what's so annoying but nobody gets it. You can only say it so many times.
You are starting to sound like Jimbo.
You can say it repeatedly, how about backing it up with some facts.
What i am hearing from you is that Yarran has been ruined by Mick Malthouse and that he was an out and and star under Ratten. Your opinion, and so be it.
No, what I'm saying is he was developing nicely under Ratts but has gone backwards under Malthouse. I think he's lost all passion, and more importantly all confidence. It took Ratts a good few years to build up Yazz's confidence and it seems Mick's undone it all in a few months. IMO.
What's wrong with Jimbo anyway?
The behaviour was a result of an action, they wouldn't have made sub, or if they did communicate exactly why and what the expectation is. Whether that happened or not we don't know.It was wrong to make him sub, yes a mistake by Mick. Mick has frrkd this one up as much as many wont accept it.
You missed it. I will give you another chance.
Goat. How do you think the top clubs would have dealt with Yarrans behaviour?
What does this even mean? Can you re-write this in proper English. I could however take a guess and say that it is not the player's fault that he performed so poorly after being subbed. It is the Coach's fault. Correct?
If so..let's not drop anyone ever again for not meeting expectations. In fact, lets have the players pick the team..but then who do we blame if they do not perform?!
Seriously....as we say in Ireland..catch yourself on mate.
Yarran is an ADULT. Not a Boy.
He is professional adult paid via sponsorship and our Membership money to perform at his best and his coaches expectations - week in week out. If he does not put his body on the line and toe the company line then he can go and get stuffed. Talent is nothing without buy-in. We have too many Peacocks in this team already. He either steps up or he will be traded for someone who gives a crap.
I think it is a poor show when a Coach attacks his players - as Mick did last night!
What he might say to them in private is one matter, but to be critical publically reveals he has lost it.
He ought to apologize
What would happen if players criticized the team selections?
I think it's a great when Mick criticizes his players publicly. We do it on this forum and for me, Micks public criticism informs us that he is seeing what we are. If any one should apologise, it's the players like Murphy, Betts, Yarran, Gibbs, Rowe etc. that didn't put in and were a disgrace to themselves and the club.
If players criticized team selections, they would get dropped. And deservedly so. That's what would happen.
I want blokes playing for our club that give 100%, 100% of the time, not a pack of Primma Donnas that can't cop a public bake from their coach.
Were were truly outed tonight......outclassed, outgunned, outplayed, outrun, outtackled etc etc.
Start preparing for next year boys, this one's gorrn! Some of you will surely be gorrn from CFC too.
A lot of home truths established tonight.
"they were harder & more desperate"
"they belted us through the middle"
"we got absolutely nothing from our small forwards"
"they are a Top 4 team and it clearly shows the gap between us & the Top 4 teams"
"I can't think of any of our midfielders who would be in the Top 6 players in the match"
"we need a massive improvement on tonights performance, we'll just worry about the Bulldogs next week and not the other games"
Malthouse being interviewed by Richo post-match.
Tonight we met an undermanned D1ckers unit, on our dung heap and they pulled down our dacks.
But, nothing to worry about... our President said we have a great list.
Forget finals.
MM, stop making excuses and painting an optimistic view of progress. This side will not deliver you a top 4 result or better.
Time to be ruthless at the trade and assistant coach table.
As for on-field leadership...
But the problem remains (mainly) between our ears because some weeks we do turn up?