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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by Sexybronco -
based on that Vossy wasn’t given enough time, just when that debate was beginning to subside🙄. Also far from an ringing endorsement for Fraser as our next senior coach.

Which has been the argument all along.

I've never said Voss is a supercoach. Just give him some time to do what he needs to do. Fraser is riding on his coattails, and not doing a thing wrong, and doing plenty right. But people attributing all the success to Fraser and none to Voss is a recipe for disaster.
Look at the bigger picture as to what has changed since Vossys departure.

2 things....quality of opposition has been poorer.
Improvement from our captain (and its not just him, but obvious when looking at him) has made a huge difference.

I don't want to restart the debate. The article is nothing new to me, and some others, however all the voss haters/fraser boosters continue to ignore that and argue against it. Its dishonest and/or naive.
I’m ambivalent to be honest but I don’t buy your comment about quality of opposition given we have beaten Geelong and Brisbane.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by kruddler -
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2026/08/03/afl-2026-carlton-win-versus-brisbane-the-perfect-game-adam-simpson-lauds-blues-dominance-after-15-year-first

While he doesn’t believe the win was a lesson in coaching from interim Fraser, Simpson did concede that everything the Blues have been working on – even prior to Fraser’s tenure – was on show in full effect on Saturday night.

“I’m not sure it’s a masterclass, but everything they tried worked,” he said.

“Sometimes it’s just playing your way. A lot of the things Carlton have done really well in the last 10 weeks; they were working on in November and December.

“That’s the beauty of the transition that Josh made. He didn’t tweak a lot of things, but they evolved really quickly.

based on that Vossy wasn’t given enough time, just when that debate was beginning to subside🙄. Also far from an ringing endorsement for Fraser as our next senior coach.

Which has been the argument all along.

I've never said Voss is a supercoach. Just give him some time to do what he needs to do. Fraser is riding on his coattails, and not doing a thing wrong, and doing plenty right. But people attributing all the success to Fraser and none to Voss is a recipe for disaster.
Look at the bigger picture as to what has changed since Vossys departure.

2 things....quality of opposition has been poorer.
Improvement from our captain (and its not just him, but obvious when looking at him) has made a huge difference.

I don't want to restart the debate. The article is nothing new to me, and some others, however all the voss haters/fraser boosters continue to ignore that and argue against it. Its dishonest and/or naive.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by PaulP -
Can you imagine saying that 10 weeks ago….but your point is valid, hard to pinpoint anyone to be dropped on the back of last Saturday’s performance. If he’s right to go I’m sure he’ll be in with Young being the unlucky out.

I suspect that's probably what will happen, but I'm not sure it's right.

We should definitely be savoring the moment, because :
a. it was great
b. it won't happen again for a while.

We got the best version of Carlton vs the worst version of Brisbane. Every bounce of the ball was in our favour, everything we tried worked. One of those rare games where everything just clicked for us. Nobody would think that game was an accurate representation of where both teams are at. If only we could have a result like that every week.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by Sexybronco -
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2026/08/03/afl-2026-carlton-win-versus-brisbane-the-perfect-game-adam-simpson-lauds-blues-dominance-after-15-year-first

While he doesn’t believe the win was a lesson in coaching from interim Fraser, Simpson did concede that everything the Blues have been working on – even prior to Fraser’s tenure – was on show in full effect on Saturday night.

“I’m not sure it’s a masterclass, but everything they tried worked,” he said.

“Sometimes it’s just playing your way. A lot of the things Carlton have done really well in the last 10 weeks; they were working on in November and December.

“That’s the beauty of the transition that Josh made. He didn’t tweak a lot of things, but they evolved really quickly.

based on that Vossy wasn’t given enough time, just when that debate was beginning to subside🙄. Also far from an ringing endorsement for Fraser as our next senior coach.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by Sexybronco -
I wouldn't be flirting with form. I don't think Weitering should be an automatic in.
Can you imagine saying that 10 weeks ago….but your point is valid, hard to pinpoint anyone to be dropped on the back of last Saturday’s performance. If he’s right to go I’m sure he’ll be in with Young being the unlucky out.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by PaulP -
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2026/08/03/afl-2026-carlton-win-versus-brisbane-the-perfect-game-adam-simpson-lauds-blues-dominance-after-15-year-first

While he doesn’t believe the win was a lesson in coaching from interim Fraser, Simpson did concede that everything the Blues have been working on – even prior to Fraser’s tenure – was on show in full effect on Saturday night.

“I’m not sure it’s a masterclass, but everything they tried worked,” he said.

“Sometimes it’s just playing your way. A lot of the things Carlton have done really well in the last 10 weeks; they were working on in November and December.

“That’s the beauty of the transition that Josh made. He didn’t tweak a lot of things, but they evolved really quickly.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 22 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Last post by laj -
We have to win this week. Saints won't lose again.

Lose this week and we have to beat Freo to make it. (and the dogs)
Dogs themselves don't have it too easy. They should beat North, although North tend to make things tough for most sides even in defeat, but then they play us and Melbourne. It could be a last chance saloon for us in case St.Kilda roll us but we'd have to beat both the Dogs and Freo. A win this week and a 2 game buffer on the Saints sounds much better.