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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Lods -


My idea of a resignation is essentially when the company or club has no issue with you, they would be happy to keep you, and you leave of your own volition, without any mitigating circumstances.

I'm not sure that temporality tips the scales one way or the other. Wright and Davies made it clear they were not going to continue with Voss, and they allowed the "resignation" narrative to take center stage, as indeed they should. Allows him to exit the club with some dignity intact. I'm sure his first preference would be to receive a contract extension and finish the work he started. His 2nd preference would be what just unfolded. Our club has a pretty dismal record of treating coaches like garbage when they exit the club. At least with Voss there was a little dignity to the affair. Small mercies and all that.

A cynic might say that Voss decided to resign with the writing on the wall and ensuring that the club looked silly in the process.  Whilst Wright and Priestly looked a bit unflustered, I dont think Voss deciding to call it quits this week was part of the plan.  Perhaps we were going to let him coach out the year after all, and he was not having a bar of it.

I don't discount that.
I'm not sure the club wanted it done so early.
I always thought the later the better so there was no chance of an interim coach making a good fist of the job and putting pressure on them to give him the job on a full time basis.
Fraser says he's not ready.
A positive finish to the season may change his mind.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by northernblue -
A cynic might say that Voss decided to resign with the writing on the wall and ensuring that the club looked silly in the process.  Whilst Wright and Priestly looked a bit unflustered, I don’t think Voss deciding to call it quits this week was part of the plan.  Perhaps we were going to let him coach out the year after all, and he was not having a bar of it.

It's certainly possible. I suspect if anything, Wright and Davies would've been relieved to see him give his notice so promptly. The pressure is off team performance this season IMO, so they have bought themselves plenty of time.


Until we get accused of tanking… “Carlton still tanking…” will be the headlines
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by PaulP -
A cynic might say that Voss decided to resign with the writing on the wall and ensuring that the club looked silly in the process.  Whilst Wright and Priestly looked a bit unflustered, I don’t think Voss deciding to call it quits this week was part of the plan.  Perhaps we were going to let him coach out the year after all, and he was not having a bar of it.

It's certainly possible. I suspect if anything, Wright and Davies would've been relieved to see him give his notice so promptly. The pressure is off team performance this season IMO, so they have bought themselves plenty of time.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Thryleon -
Yes
I also agree
The point is that Voss's departure is being framed as a 'sacking' rather than a failure to renew a contract.
Now, you can argue "little difference" ...the end result is the same.
But there is a difference... in terms of who determined the timing of that decision.
We will write that the club determined that timing, and over the years that will become "we sacked Voss midway through the year," when in fact the timing and method of his departure was determined by Voss.
He went out on his terms, at a time of his choosing.
Which version do you think he would prefer?

My idea of a resignation is essentially when the company or club has no issue with you, they would be happy to keep you, and you leave of your own volition, without any mitigating circumstances.

I'm not sure that temporality tips the scales one way or the other. Wright and Davies made it clear they were not going to continue with Voss, and they allowed the "resignation" narrative to take center stage, as indeed they should. Allows him to exit the club with some dignity intact. I'm sure his first preference would be to receive a contract extension and finish the work he started. His 2nd preference would be what just unfolded. Our club has a pretty dismal record of treating coaches like garbage when they exit the club. At least with Voss there was a little dignity to the affair. Small mercies and all that.

A cynic might say that Voss decided to resign with the writing on the wall and ensuring that the club looked silly in the process.  Whilst Wright and Priestly looked a bit unflustered, I dont think Voss deciding to call it quits this week was part of the plan.  Perhaps we were going to let him coach out the year after all, and he was not having a bar of it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by PaulP -
Yes
I also agree
The point is that Voss's departure is being framed as a 'sacking' rather than a failure to renew a contract.
Now, you can argue "little difference" ...the end result is the same.
But there is a difference... in terms of who determined the timing of that decision.
We will write that the club determined that timing, and over the years that will become "we sacked Voss midway through the year," when in fact the timing and method of his departure was determined by Voss.
He went out on his terms, at a time of his choosing.
Which version do you think he would prefer?

My idea of a resignation is essentially when the company or club has no issue with you, they would be happy to keep you, and you leave of your own volition, without any mitigating circumstances.

I'm not sure that temporality tips the scales one way or the other. Wright and Davies made it clear they were not going to continue with Voss, and they allowed the "resignation" narrative to take center stage, as indeed they should. Allows him to exit the club with some dignity intact. I'm sure his first preference would be to receive a contract extension and finish the work he started. His 2nd preference would be what just unfolded. Our club has a pretty dismal record of treating coaches like garbage when they exit the club. At least with Voss there was a little dignity to the affair. Small mercies and all that.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Thryleon -
actually 5 goals happens in most games these days.  Collingwood jumped sydney just the other night, and then sydney did it back.  Geelong put 7 straight on against Brisbane in Brisbane. Lets not discuss hawthorn and Melbourne. 

Scoring 5 without a goal going in the other way is largely irrelevant when you might kick 0.4 from set shots. 

Not all situations are the same. Ive picked my examples from this round alone and I remember having done more analysis into it when teague was coaching, we were often one set shot missed  away from preventing those 5 goal run ons.
Not every week to the same side.

Alot of people are trying very hard here.
True that.

I dont have to try too hard.  I know what I see, and a rather emotive response is 5 goals conceded in a row. 

Its actually a furphy.  Meaningless.  A statistical anomaly.  Whether its the same team or not and the reality is, the dogs were inaccurate kicking away from doing it. 

Thats why its rather meaningless.