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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by JonDorotich -
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Enough has been said about our problems, but what about solutions? We’re clearly on track for a spoon and need to act, without having the luxury of a change in personnel..

Some left field ideas to consider
(1) Ainsworth as a back pocket/lockdown small forward defender . We don’t have one and I don’t really rate him as a great high HF.
(2) Hayward to HB? We need some pace and class off HB and for whatever reason, he’s not getting a touch in our system. I’d also be hoping that Billy Wilson comes on as we lack leg speed coming out of defence
(3) McKay back - let’s face it he’s not a great forward and we need to find a way to purge the Yoings/Derksens from our side. He has some pace and can surely follow his man around?
(4) Cripps full forward? He’s 195cm and playing about as badly as I can recall. Need to freshen him up and work with him to improve his kicking. HOK & Reidy don’t really strike me as great options but are also worthy of consideration at this stage.
(5) Hollands x2 - I keep saying if, but their good is outweighed by their bad. Critical turnovers or poor decisions cost us so dearly with these two. I’d be dropping both permanently and finding others to play their role.
(6) Florent/Saad into a new roles - both are sadly out of form. Can we find a way to freshen he other up, pinch hitting up forward or at centre bounces?

Would love to hear others views on changes that we can make. As a starting point I’d suggest that removing Young/Derkson & both Hollands is a step in the right direction & I know lots will disagree with me in Elijah’s case, but that’s my view.


Certainly left field JD. At the end of the day, anything might be worth a try. Cripps would need some serious work on his kicking if he is to play FF.
Harry back would be a concern for me, you need abit a crap about you to play down back, thats not in H's DNA unfortunately. It seems to me those issues he faced last year which forced him to have time off might not be fully resolved, he isn't a patch on Coleman H, its actually quite sad as he should be in the prime of his career and should be taking games apart.
As I said, anythings worth a go.

Re Harry it is sad, but he’s just not firing a shot and he’s had a good go. Moving Harry is as much about taking Young/Derkson off the field as much as it about freeing Harry to play without the mental pressure of finishing the teams hard work with a goal, which we can see he struggles with.

The Hayward situation is similar and it can’t be fun for him running around headless in our forward 50, which inevitably leads to acts of frustration that we saw yesterday. A move to HB would free him up.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
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We allowed him to continue his contract.
Took away his top liners.
Now want to sack him after 4 games?
What the hell did you expect to happen??


We didn't take away his topliners
His topliners left of their own accord.
They wanted to go.
...and there may have been some disaffection with the coaching direction that  contributed to those decisions.

Poor choice of words..
We didnt replace his top liners.
Result is the same though.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by madbluboy -
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The thing is, its now happened so many times that surely nothing is now ‘kneejerk’.

We allowed him to continue his contract.
Took away his top liners.
Now want to sack him after 4 games?
What the hell did you expect to happen??


I don't understand how anyone thought this was not a rebuild.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by LP -
I'm think fans are deluded if they think these guys will arrive as match winners from day one, they weren't match winners at the club they came from and at our club in a new team and environment they'll need at least 1/2 a season to settle.

In the long term they won't be bad, but they won't be any better than they were, they aren't going to turn into Judd just because the switched clubs.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by MickyO -
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Watching the replay, if you ignore all the late pressure induced errors and the obvious umpiring blunders, we still missed multiple shots at goal from within a 25m range and ultimately that was a big contributor to the events that cost us the game.
Yeah hitting the post multiple times from
Close range is just a killer.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by MickyO -
Yeah I didnt expect to be near the top
But i dod expect us to be able to account for richmond Melbourne and North!

CC was crap last year. Yes hes missed because he got the best defender. We miss TDKs hard work and athleticism, but what could we do there, thanks to SOS targetting him and giving him millions.

But we have Got talent and imo hayward was a liability yday and frankly played like hes a dickhead, florent seemed so slow but did work hard -
Maybe he shouldve been
Moved forward? I do recall Hayes was terrible in his first game so hopefully Florent will improve.

Newman and Elijah ran out of puff unfortunately and Weiters’ off injured, crap umpiring all going their way etc etc

Now the anger has dissipated I agree re Voss.  BUT changes need to be made when the game changes!  Even if it doesnt work its become a fail so to correct a fail you need to do something else.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Last post by LP -
Watching the replay, if you ignore all the late pressure induced errors and the obvious umpiring blunders, we still missed multiple shots at goal from within a 25m range and ultimately that was a big contributor to the events that cost us the game.

Fundamental errors, like missing because they ultimately kicked in the direction they were heading but they weren't heading for goal.

On a separate issue, I watch Kemp and think what a waste. This bloke rolled up to our club as a player who was capable of forward play and midfield rotations, and we basically burnt him by wasting his capabilities on the HBF. Now towards the end we want him to learn the F50, it's like resetting to day one and he seriously looks out of his depth.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Back to the Moon
Last post by LP -
The "high cost" of this or that which is the typical media message is really a drop in the ocean. Media always talk total$ because the big number seems alarming or scary, but the reality is it's something like $0.05 per person per annum and the payback is many times that.

I've heard on the radio the other day RedTrump dropped the equivalent of one full year of a NASA budget in the first week of the assault on Iran and got nothing to show for it other than debt!

btw., When the US media bang on about waste and how much the US spends, and why aren't others helping, they ignore to inform the US audience that about half of the bill is being footed for the Artimis project comes from foreign governments or investment. Yet when a foreign government or entity uses inclusive language about "us" or "we" the US media will claim it's all America.

Did you know if you want to sell IP into the USA, the IP must conform to US law, meaning no matter who holds that IP it has to be in a single name and they have to effectively sign over right of access to the US government, and they have the gall to assert China are crooks! If the IP has any use at all to the US military they will develop local capability and chop out foreign supply, and they have done on items as wide ranging as food packaging and CAD software. I know a person in Melbourne who developed CAD software used in advanced manufacturing, he held the IP globally but the US used it's law to develop a local capability with a contract handed out to a big US company. The Melbournian still made good money out of it, tens of million, but the US company made billion$.

The same thing with the US assault on Iran, some significant percentage of the US munitions come from other countries including Israel, ironic isn't it that Israel profits by dragging others into the fight, the US media just claim it's all America. Some of the air defence systems they use cost US$20M per round fired, and they spray them around like air freshener! Keep that in mind when you hear RedTrump begging for assistance!