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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Port Adelaide in Adelaide
Last post by Lods -We might see a few late outs.
We might see a few late outs.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Port Adelaide in Adelaide
Last post by townsendcalling -3
Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
I guess it's down to the fundamental legal principle that "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall have the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law." The fact that the arsonists are all teenagers goes in their favour too.
The latest three arsonists arrested, one of whom set himself on fire, have been charged with aggravated burglary, criminal damage by fire, handling stolen goods, committing an indictable offence while on bail and possession of cannabis. Committing an indictable offence while on bail means revocation of bail and a mandatory three months behind bars in addition to any other sanctions. Sadly though, I don't believe that these kids will be deterred or reformed by prison.
Innocent until proven guilty, sure.
But there is taking the piss. If what you say is true, one was caught 'red handed', that is literally burned in the process! Yet is still innocent and allowed to roam free. Surely there has to be a bit more common sense in this.
Judges/magistrates have to operate on the presumption of innocence, regardless of the weight of evidence. Bail can only be refused if the offender is a flight risk, or might commit further offences, is a danger to the public, or might interfere with witnesses.
These three geniuses have been charged with committing an indictable offence while on bail and I believe that will result in them being remanded in custody - as they should be!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by kruddler -I want to understand the reasoning behind arresting those responsible for pouring petrol on a building and lighting it and then releasing them with a slap on the wrist. Ill bet both my balls they got out and set fire to another building and collect another 20K each. Sounds like easy work, might consider it myself. Perhaps we should go around to schools and promote this lucrative and entrepreneurial business.
I guess it's down to the fundamental legal principle that "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall have the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law." The fact that the arsonists are all teenagers goes in their favour too.
The latest three arsonists arrested, one of whom set himself on fire
Innocent until proven guilty, sure.
But there is taking the piss. If what you say is true, one was caught 'red handed', that is literally burned in the process! Yet is still innocent and allowed to roam free. Surely there has to be a bit more common sense in this.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -According to the police OIC, all of those responsible for the fire bombings have been apprehended and charged. Apparently they get paid $20K for each job.I want to understand the reasoning behind arresting those responsible for pouring petrol on a building and lighting it and then releasing them with a slap on the wrist. Ill bet both my balls they got out and set fire to another building and collect another 20K each. Sounds like easy work, might consider it myself. Perhaps we should go around to schools and promote this lucrative and entrepreneurial business.
It seems that the organised crime gang behind the fire bombings is likely to be an offshore operation so particularly difficult for the police to crack.
Yes the government could introduce laws to make it harder for these crime gangs to operate but they’d never be passed by the upper house and would be a severe restriction on our civil liberties.
The government has already tightened bail laws but, again, they can only go so far before their laws are deemed to be unconstitutional.
I guess it's down to the fundamental legal principle that "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall have the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law." The fact that the arsonists are all teenagers goes in their favour too.
The latest three arsonists arrested, one of whom set himself on fire
, have been charged with aggravated burglary, criminal damage by fire, handling stolen goods, committing an indictable offence while on bail and possession of cannabis. Committing an indictable offence while on bail means revocation of bail and a mandatory three months behind bars in addition to any other sanctions. Sadly though, I don't believe that these kids will be deterred or reformed by prison.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Gointocarlton -According to the police OIC, all of those responsible for the fire bombings have been apprehended and charged. Apparently they get paid $20K for each job.
It seems that the organised crime gang behind the fire bombings is likely to be an offshore operation so particularly difficult for the police to crack.
Yes the government could introduce laws to make it harder for these crime gangs to operate but they’d never be passed by the upper house and would be a severe restriction on our civil liberties.
The government has already tightened bail laws but, again, they can only go so far before their laws are deemed to be unconstitutional.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Port Adelaide in Adelaide
Last post by kruddler -Our line-up:
B: 14 Oliver Florent 47 Wade Derksen 2 Lachlan Cowan
HB: 24 Nic Newman 35 Harry Dean 15 Billy Wilson
C: 5 Adam Cerra 18 Sam Walsh 32 Matthew Carroll
HF: 19 Will Hayward 17 Brodie Kemp 30 Jack Ison
F: 39 Talor Byrne 10 Harry McKay 12 Ben Ainsworth
R: 27 Marc Pittonet 7 Jagga Smith 9 Patrick Cripps
Int: 26 Nick Haynes 29 George Hewett 45 Flynn Young 11 Mitch McGovern 44 Francis Evans
Em: 25 Liam Reidy 33 Lewis Young 13 Blake Acres
[1] I would have thought Young would come in for Weitering. Hope Derksen can do the job. If we win in the midfield he might. If they stream out of the middle, Georgiades will get a lot of ball.
[2] Acres: is he as out of favour as Boyd has become? He is in form. Not sure Cerra is a wingman ...
[3] One ruck each. Point source error or masterstroke? We don't have much backup.
Harry found form when he spent more time on the ruck...hes our 2nd ruck....cripps like to get freed up in that way too.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 9 2026 Carlton vs Coburg at Coburg
Last post by northernblue -9
Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -It seems that the organised crime gang behind the fire bombings is likely to be an offshore operation so particularly difficult for the police to crack.
Yes the government could introduce laws to make it harder for these crime gangs to operate but they’d never be passed by the upper house and would be a severe restriction on our civil liberties.
The government has already tightened bail laws but, again, they can only go so far before their laws are deemed to be unconstitutional.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Port Adelaide in Adelaide
Last post by DJC -I’m sure our MC has put a hell of a lot more thought into matchups and Port’s strengths and weaknesses but I would have gone with the Sheriff ahead of Byrner.
I have more faith in Lewis Young than many supporters but I think that Derksen is a better option for this game.