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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler on
Give some of the kids a chance to play in afl conditions and their output will magically improve.

Give our kids a game in the AFL before they’re ready and we’ll probably throw the game and set their careers back.  We didn’t see much magical improvement from Samo, LOB, Polson, and Dow!

Of course, the MC doesn’t just go on key match day indicators but takes into account what happens at training … and while we don’t know how Fantasia is going versus Durdin, etc, team selection gives us a fair idea.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: madbluboy on
Did you watch the game stats man? Clearly not.

LOL....seems a few people missed the irony.

You posted stat's....and nothing else.
So did I.

As you and others pointed out, stat's don't tell the whole picture....which was my point.
Fantasia simply doesn't do enough. So he got some more stat's, doesn't change the fact he does that do enough.

For the record, I watched half the vfl game today.

I find it difficult doing comparisons between vfl and afl since vfl is played in howling wind on a second rate surface with second rate umpires and second rate teamates and the afl is played in near perfect conditions on near perfect grounds....

Give some of the kids a chance to play in afl conditions and their output will magically improve.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler on
Carroll got 32 touches today
Billy Wilson got 24 today
Binns got 21 and a goal today
Durdin got 15 and a goal

All are younger and have performed to the same level as Fantasia (or better)

Carroll had 2 tackles in 19% TOG on Thursday and backed it up today
Fantasia had 2 tackles in 55% TOG on Thursday

Did you watch the game?

Carroll was OK but his opponent touched him up.  No-one else is putting their hand up for a game so Carroll probably stays in the 23.

Binns is probably most able to do the role Fantasia is currently doing.  He has the tank for it but he hasn’t yet developed a defensive side to his game, is too easily brushed aside, and his disposal could be better.

Wilson shows promise but he’s a small defender who needs time to develop and would be exploited at AFL level.

Durdin got a bit of the ball today but not nearly as much as he should have.  A disappointing, poor effort from a bloke who should be fighting for a spot in our AFL team.

Fantasia is safe … for now.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL 2024 Rd 10 Carlton vs Preston at Preston
Last post by blueianh -
Lose 83-95 - came back at them in the last with some early goals but couldn't reel them in on the day.  Motlop finally turned up in the last quarter once moved into the midfield but stank for the first 3.  No chance of a promotion this week.  No-one really put their hand up, Carroll was I think clearly our best and has probably saved his spot in the side and possibly got himself off the sub bench.  Binns had one of his worst games but was still amongst our best, Wilson showed AFL qualities and Durdin was reasonably busy but none of them cried out for a promotion.  I think no unforced changes for the ones next week.