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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
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Luckily it looks like we have finally thrown out "the formula", it's like our first step towards success.

The formulaic approach to recruitment and list management, tactics too, is just more of what everyone else does, and that just makes you achieve the average.

Thing with being average and changing the way you do things, it can also leave you further behind the rest as a result
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
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They could have picked a tall at 28, and probably would have had Emmett slipped through. But when he went they traded the pick.
That probably is a fair indication they didn't rate any of the talls following.

I flagged at the end of night 1 that we should trade up 3 spots to ensure we get 'our guy' whoever that may be. This is before we let someone else bid on ison ensuring it would allow us to get both.

Opportunity was there, it didn't happen, i can't buy that excuse.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by LP -
Luckily it looks like we have finally thrown out "the formula", it's like our first step towards success.

The formulaic approach to recruitment and list management, tactics too, is just more of what everyone else does, and that just makes you achieve the average.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Thryleon -
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Ill say one thing about the talls from this draft.  With Tassie joining in shortly, these talls are going to get more opportunities in future to make it, as there will be a limited bunch that are any good.  Letting others take them in this draft, might ensure there are more available in the next and I also expect that any keys that are floating around will get more opportunities as a result.  I reckon Essendon might have one or two that will be free to a good home at the end of next season too, as they went recruiting as many as they could in 2025 to fill in temporary holes.

For those that like to say pessismist and optimist, I simply go realist.  I expect somewhere between spots 6 and 12 for 2026.  Spots lower than 10 will see us change coach at the end of the season unless we end up having another Annus Horribilius and lose many players across the season.  Thats the scenario we drop as low as 14th.  If things go swimmingly, depending on other results, we could sneak into top 6 and put us in the frame for a flag.  Thats what I am hoping for, but I dont think it will happen either. 

I think an average result for us will be in the wildcard places.  Wont be happy, wont be dissapointed, but missing that without some extenuating circumstances will mean time for a new coach.

I'm trying to follow your train of thought here, but i'm missing something.

Are you saying there will be more talls available next year because teams like Essendon have extra talls so some will be available?
Isn't that us hoping to secure rejects from other teams? Is that the best way to go about it??

I really don't like a list management strategy that relies on other teams giving us what we need. Its destined for failure.
Nope.  This years bunch might be bog ordinary.  Because so many have been taken the talls from next year might not be on everyone's radar.

Also, the ones taken now are going to get more chances to make it because the new team will require an additional 6 key position players minimum as part of their talent pool. 

So, the key position players taken in 2025, might prevent you from getting a good or really good one in the next draft based on how the talent was rated.

We wont know for years
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Baggers -
We really won't 'know' how good (or otherwise) this group/list is, until the heat of battle next year. Can't wait.

I find myself optimistic about 2026. But I'm the same before the beginning of most seasons.

Bottom line is that there are so many moving parts, so many variables and 17 other clubs going through much the same as us. Soooo many IFs.

The number 1 IF would be for a healthy list giving us the very best chance to show our best. Already being without HOF is a concern.
The number 2 IF would be for how long it will take this list to gel, considering the number of new faces.
And the number 3 IF would be our skills and ability to move the aggott quickly (and accurately). We know our pressure and contest is in the top bracket but can we successfully integrate a deadly offensive game?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by PaulP -
Disappointing, but hardly surprising, that the Libs can't follow the example of past Labor governments in offering bipartisan support after a tragedy. Beazley after Port Arthur and Shorten after the Lindt Cafe siege being two obvious examples. I'm no fan of Labor, but credit where it's due.