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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: RiverRat – on
The match committee seemed to make one decision that was out of left field and was moderately effective during the first half; i.e. Cowan running with W-Miller.

Conversely, they made a dumb decision by omitting Lewis Young (not a great player but usually serviceable) when the Aints had two ruckmen who were capable of playing effective roles as tall marking forwards without anybody tall enough to defend against high kicks to the forward line - except Weitering who prefers to play against lesser opponents these days.
That was probably the worst game I have seem from Weiters. He went in to the rooms in the 1st and sat on the bench. Not making excuses but he wasn't right after that, not sure if he got a knock to the ribs or what. In any case, he has shown the last several weeks that his form has been attrocious and he either is down on confidence or doesn't GAF.
Ditto Walsh, Cripps, Cerra, Hayward, H. Walsh and Cripps for example have shown that they can gather lots of stats but they dont impact games with what they do and they make too many errors (turn it over, get caught, miss easy shots etc). The costly errors from senior players is getting worse with every week.
Agree dropping Young was a mistake, he has been FAR from our worst every week, they wont drop the captain and v.captain though can they?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by crashlander -
I have rarely seen such heartless, soulless performances than what I saw tonight. After half time far too many players didn't give a yelp. Don't worry, there is plenty of blame to go around.
[1] Our coach is a dead man walking. He won't be there in 2027, the only question is will he see out the year? If this is what we're going to produce week in and week out, that's not going to happen.
We've changed most of the coaching staff, yet we're doing even worse.
I am sure our coaching panel next year will be significantly different again.
Our game style sucks: we run past for a handball and find there is nobody to kick it to. Our forwards don't move enough in the forward 50. We don't react well to changes in the game. There doesn't appear to be a plan B. We don't seem to set up like the better teams do.

[2] Our players are playing themselves out of a job.
You can blame the coach: he deserves his share of the blame, but it isn't just him. Our players need to take a good, hard look at themselves, as few of them are producing anything close to their best.
If we can recognize what they should be doing, then so should they. But, do we see any sign of it? We see our players getting frustrated, but we see little to rectify the reasons for that frustration. Harry Dean wasn't Robinson Crusoe with his frustration, but his response to it was stupid.

[3] Our recruiter certainly deserve their share of the blame. Rarely have I seen a list with so little athleticism. We didn't have anyone who could run with St. Kilda's better players. Whose fault is this? We lack pace all over the field. We have few players with real spring. Many of our better players are as slow as treacle!

[4] Our fitness people also need to admit that they've failed. There are reports that our guys have never been fitter. That doesn't stack up. Otherwise, we would be running guys down late in games. Otherwise, opposition players wouldn't break out tackles so easily. Our guys are weak, not just the youngsters, who have some excuse.

[5] The Umpires: a cannot miss giving them their place in our disaster. They way the rules were applied tonight was simply diabolical. The ruck frees ... I don't want to go there. But we take it, we don't complain. Our admin needs to get on the front foot and start calling this sh*t out! The way H, for example, gets held almost every time he goes for the ball. How our players get pushed out of contests and the umps just ignore it. I could go on.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by RiverRat -
The match committee seemed to make one decision that was out of left field and was moderately effective during the first half; i.e. Cowan running with W-Miller.

Conversely, they made a dumb decision by omitting Lewis Young (not a great player but usually serviceable) when the Aints had two ruckmen who were capable of playing effective roles as tall marking forwards without anybody tall enough to defend against high kicks to the forward line - except Weitering who prefers to play against lesser opponents these days.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Out Dean (rested) Weitering McGovern Florent Cripps Hollands Pittonet Cerra Walsh Williams Evans McKay Haynes Reidy Hayward Cottrell (all omitted).
In  L Young Wilson Derksen B Campo Acres Chesser Fogarty Moir Ison HOK Lord Hewett Byrne Duffy Young Charleson
F Young
HB Wilson Derksen Carroll
C B Campo Acres Chesser
HF Fogarty Moir Ison
FF Ainsworth Kemp Smith
Foll HOK Lord Hewett
Int Cowan Byrne Duffy Young Charleson
screw it,  I'd do it, send a message.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by RiverRat -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Weitering, Cripps and Harry are passengers, down in confidence and giving no leadership...

They were today.

Weitering continues to disappoint me with the way he expects teammates to man up so that he can zone off and provide little but defensive punches and/or intercept marks against lesser opponents.

His kicking skills are also less than what might be desired and are largely limited to ultra-safe kicks (backwards, sideways or very short) but rarely creative.  Maybe its time he was given a run as a marking forward to see if he still has what it takes.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Played ok in the first half but never built a large enough lead and that's where we lost it. 18% forward efficiency, we just can't get any connection down forward, entries are poor and when we do find a target they can't kick straight anyway.
Terrible messy game to watch standard wise and the Saints were not much better than us with their skills.
Saad, Newman and Haynes age profile down back is not building for the future.
Weitering, Cripps and Harry are passengers, down in confidence and giving no leadership...
If I'm Cody Walker I'm considering my options...the pressure on that kid to be the savior is going to be extreme.
Play more kids is all we can do and hope to find some players, I'd be managing some senior players out of the team starting with Harry who should be playing VFL.
How Hewett can't get a game is unbelievable, I guess it's another Matt Kennedy situation ...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St. Kilda
Last post by MickyO -
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Next week
Out: Entire AFL Team that played tonight(barring a couple)
In: VFL Side that played to today
Thank god the VFL guys are giving us something to be cheering on… i cant watch another senior game; totally seemed like they didnt bother after half time.  If they wont bother, we wont bother to watch.