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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 24 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Last post by Thryleon -
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Somewhat off topic, but Josh Francou is of the opinion that if John Longmire was still in charge, this would not have happened.
reckon that he may be reaching a little there.

Its an obvious change, but the idea that cox let's the team get away with things longmire wouldnt doesnt sit right with me.

Cox may turn more of a blind eye given his history with cousins and kerr, but thats an assertion.  Odds are these guys do this stuff all the time, unless you think they're unlucky enough to get trouble the one time theyve done it, and stupid enough to only have done it as they head into the final round of the season.

Its likely a weekly occurrence.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 24 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: PaulP – on
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………Please, Sydney, if you have more talented players you would like to send in our direction, we will provide a happy home for them.

Number 35 thanks.


Nah they can have him.

He kicke lots of goals in the H&A season but its hard to have a unpredictable forward line when he is there as players are drawn to him and makes us easier to plan against.

Put it this way in finals i much prefer the balance and spread we have now.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 24 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: kruddler – on
I worry about the comprehension of some people. I really do.

I'm not shooting bambi.

I'm asking a question.

I'm not saying Florent hasn't done everything we've asked of him.
I'm not saying Florent doesn't deserve a spot in our side.

I've had Florent in my best 23 since before the season started.

What i am asking is.....given the position he is playing, and given the other players playing a similar position in the 2's...and given how little cover we have in other areas.....could his list spot (and contract $'s) be better spent elsewhere?

Its the same logic i had when we recruited Fantasia. I understood why we got him, the experience, the energy levels etc....but at the end of the day, did our overall list structure suffer as a result?

You've gotta sacrifice something to get something. People around here don't want to sacrifice anything, but still want everything.


Talk about verbal diarrhoea.

Do you ever worry about your comprehension or only those who disagree with you which on this topic clearly the majority do.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 24 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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Were you at the game?

I thought it was a tough, high pressure game unlike our win over the Lions.
I agree, being at the game fairly close to the action, you could here the collisions and both teams were going at at 100% (even though I reckon Freo dont really like the tough stuff). Not sure what game pew2 watched. We all see things differently I guess.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Award 2026
Last post by crashlander -
With the H&A games done, the numbers are interesting.
[1] Sam Walsh leads by about 500 votes, which Cripps could make up in two championship games, but I don't see it happening. Cripps has been BOG 7 times this season (all after Rd 8), while Walsh has been BOG 8 times (spread over the whole season). No other player has been BOG more than once.

[2] Jagga Smith is about 400 votes clear of George Hewett, so he will probably be 3rd overall. George has had a stellar back end of the season, being in the top 10 on 9 occasions out of 11. Jagga has been in the top 10 11 times out of 12. That is consistency.
It also tells you a lot about George Hewett's season: he would be challenging Cripps and Walsh if he'd played this way all year.
I find it amazing that some people doubt that Jagga is going to get the Rising Star this year: his season has been phenomenal.

[3] Marc Pittonet is enjoying perhaps his best season as an AFL footballer. The changes to the ruck rules definitely did not suit him, bit he has been able to evolve his game and challenge the better rucks in the competition. That he is in 5th spot at the moment says huge things about his development and his importance to us as a team.
I still don't see him as the ruck for our next premiership team, but he might surprise me yet.

[4] Our mature recruits, Florent, Hayward and Ainsworth are all in our top 10. To say that we've done well out of them is an understatement. And it isn't just their mature bodies, it is the leadership they are providing around the field.
Hayward was struggling early in the year, but he has blossomed under Fraser. Ainsworth has been more consistent: he was playing well under Voss as well. I certainly don't recall him having the same impact with Gold Coast. Florent is 6th on our table at the moment, with some of his best games against the very top teams.

[5] Matt Carroll is a name missing from many conversations in recent times, but he was doing very well before he was injured. That we've been able to cover his position with Acres and Lord says a lot about all three.

[6] Jacob Weitering lies well back, with less than 500 votes. Yes, he has had injury concerns, but to have him so far back and still being able to win says a lot about how our game style has evolved.
Harry Dean doesn't garner huge votes, but his development as a key defender has taken a lot of pressure of Jacob.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 24 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Last post by tonyo -
I have a sneaking suspicion that a fair bit of the 'Bloods Culture' that has taken such a hit this week walked out the door when Florent and Hayward left the building.

I for one am happy if it has started to turn into Blue Blood.  The playing group certainly seem to be in a very good place atm, and you can never underestimate the effect that solid citizens bring to a footy club.

After all the dummy-spitting and disunity that seemed to plague CFC last year, the turnaround in this facet of the club has been amazing.  One can make a fair assumption that it is these new senior players (together with the talented kids who are now getting a crack) who are largely responsible for this.  Of course, a certain Mr Fraser is probably at the core of it, given his passion for connectedness.

The on-field results are very much a by-product of a connected and unified playing group.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 24 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler – on
I worry about the comprehension of some people. I really do.

I'm not shooting bambi.

I'm asking a question.

I'm not saying Florent hasn't done everything we've asked of him.
I'm not saying Florent doesn't deserve a spot in our side.

I've had Florent in my best 23 since before the season started.

What i am asking is.....given the position he is playing, and given the other players playing a similar position in the 2's...and given how little cover we have in other areas.....could his list spot (and contract $'s) be better spent elsewhere?

Its the same logic i had when we recruited Fantasia. I understood why we got him, the experience, the energy levels etc....but at the end of the day, did our overall list structure suffer as a result?

You've gotta sacrifice something to get something. People around here don't want to sacrifice anything, but still want everything.

Well, they’re open-ended questions; theoretically there’s always someone better and there’s always a way to improve a list structure.

However, in the real world the answer is categorically no, his list spot and contact $$ couldn’t be better spent elsewhere, and no, our overall list structure didn’t suffer as a result of bringing Florent on board.

To complete the answer to your questions, I’ll ask why wouldn’t you sacrifice a future third rounder for the opportunity to bring on board a very good player whose impact goes way beyond on field ability?

The thing is that people round here see the impact that players like Florent, Hayward and Ainsworth have had and can’t really understand why anyone would be trying to second guess very good list management decisions.