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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 21 2026 Carlton vs Footscray at Footscray
Last post by crashlander -
FOOTSCRAY VFL 2.2 5.3 7.4 9.6 (60)
CARLTON RESERVES 5.3 7.6 9.11 13.13 (91)

GOALS
Carlton: O’Keeffe 3, Howard 2, Boyd, Charleson, Farrar, Hollands, Moir, Prout, Reidy, Walker

BESTS
Carlton: Saad, Prout, Hollands, Fogarty, L.Camporeale, Young

Interesting selection of best players. Maybe Saad will get a goodbye game? Obviously the club were impressed by Prout's performance.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 23 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by DJC -
How good was it to have Weiters back where he belongs?

He wasn't at his absolute best but his marking, both in defence and as a target when were transitioning from defence, was a key factor, as was his spoiling, accurate disposal and steadying influence.  And no! I don't buy the baseless speculation that Weiters is a negative influence.

I was a little concerned that Lewis Young going out of the team would reduce our flexibility but Weiters' return gave Fraser the opportunity to move our talls around and try Derksen as a KPF. 

The post-match interview with Weiters is good value.  Apart from the cuteness overload from Florence, it was interesting to learn that it was the "Fossil", Nick Haynes, who instigated the save the game tactics, Haynes and Georgie Hewett are the most reliable teammates, and Weiters doesn't need to teach Harry Dean anything.  One other interesting snippet was the conservative approach to Weiters' rehab and return to play.

It's bad luck that the boys couldn't sing the club song for Weiters and Crippa's 200th game together but the game was still notable for us making the knockout round after such a dismal start to the season.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carlton 2026 Finals Campaign
Last post by Lods -
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Like it or not, it's here to stay.
With Tasmania coming in, and probably a twentieth team not far behind...it's probably fair enough that half the competition gets a crack at the end.
I liken it to the Repechage in Olympic rowing and other sports, a 2nd chance to make the finals.

Yep
It is that, but down the track it will just be the "first week of finals".
Make the 10 and you play on.

Already some commentators are referring to our position as making the finals
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 23 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by laj -
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It's 2 points because they halved the game. No-one lost either. If you draw you share the points. Half each. Shouldn't be getting a zero like a loss as you didn't lose. Losing is worse.

In our case iot was the unique situation of a draw being a "win" as it achieved the desired goal.
Don't agree, there is a point of difference between two teams playing to win and being tied, versus a team that has settled on a draw as the result.

If having zero points for a draw means we never see a team settle for a draw ever again then I'm all for it, we don't play soccer, draws are sh1t!

I'd rather extra time, and first to a 2pt advantage, no more settling! I think 2pts makes sense, because it allows for a defensive rushed behind while leaving a goal as a winning score.
Where I disagree is you get the same zero as a loss when you didn't lose.

As for extra time. No thanks. A season is 4 x 20 min qtrs for 23 weeks and your season is based on that. Not 4 x 20 plus 10 min in one game other sides didn't get to win a game. Uneven playing field. Hate to miss out on finals by some side getting an extra 10 min to win a game that others didn't get. You get a draw you get 2pts, because you didn't lose. Zero points is for teams that actually lose.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 23 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by LP -
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It's 2 points because they halved the game. No-one lost either. If you draw you share the points. Half each. Shouldn't be getting a zero like a loss as you didn't lose. Losing is worse.

In our case iot was the unique situation of a draw being a "win" as it achieved the desired goal.
Don't agree, there is a point of difference between two teams playing to win and being tied, versus a team that has settled on a draw as the result.

If having zero points for a draw means we never see a team settle for a draw ever again then I'm all for it, we don't play soccer, draws are sh1t!

I'd rather extra time, and first to a 2pt advantage, no more settling! I think 2pts makes sense, because it allows for a defensive rushed behind while leaving a goal as a winning score.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 23 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by laj -
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I thought in the dying moments it was our older heads that took control of the momentum, as is needed, and while it was absent at times throughout the game when it was needed they delivered, but a draw is a very different to needing a win, and Bevo discussed in his post-match they were momentarily thrown by us not trying for the win.

It was certainly a contrast, and sadly as the AFL works towards forever closing the gap between the have and the have nots, it's likely we'll see more of it.

Of course, the AFL can eliminate this completely by making a draw worthless, zero, nada, nothing, zilch. Why does it need to be a split of the 4 points, if it's zero, it's zero for everybody, as good as a bye. Only ever reward wins!
It's 2 points because they halved the game. No-one lost either. If you draw you share the points. Half each. Shouldn't be getting a zero like a loss as you didn't lose. Losing is worse.

In our case iot was the unique situation of a draw being a "win" as it achieved the desired goal.