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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Award 2026
Last post by crashlander -We've been playing Elimination Finals for weeks, but we managed to get through again with a brave win.
Trends:
[1] There were 12 voters this round, which is a little disappointing for such a stunning victory.
please do vote, win, lose or draw: it is something we appreciate and it makes our statistics a lot more reliable. And our statistics hold up pretty well when it comes to John Nicholls Medal night!
I must admit that I see a lot of names from previous campaigns who no longer vote and find that disheartening. I can only hope hope those posters are faring well.
[2] The rating was a 9.76, which represents an A-! Voters were pleased with this one.
[3] 15 players managed a mention this week, which is reasonably typical of a win, but something a little less than some of our recent triumphs.
[4] The average vote this week was 32, which is very strong. Scores are around 30 are more usual when we win, so read into that what you will.
[5] Again 4 players managed 100 votes or more. This is normal for a win these days.
[6] It was really close at the top this week, with 28 votes separating Sam Walsh (333) from Jagga Smith (305). This was Walsh's 10th BOG for the season!
[7] Only three players managed votes from everyone again this week; Walsh, Smith and Ainsworth.
[8] It was a more even spread this week, with a strong midfield and a powerful defence.
[9] Our youngsters again were significant. Smith was brilliant again. Dean was significant.
Votes:
Walsh, Sam 333
Smith, Jagga 305
Weitering, Jacob 215
Ainsworth, Ben 187
Dean, Harry 89
Hollands, Oliver 69
Pittonet, Marc 61
Haynes, Nicholas 49
Lord, Cooper 41
Cripps, Patrick 28
Cottrell, Matthew 28
Cowan, Lachlan 20
Florent, Oliver 16
Cerra, Adam 16
Kemp, Brodie 4
Progressive Voting:
Walsh, Sam 4804
Patrick Cripps 3825
Smith, Jagga 2880
Hewett, George 2002
Pittonet, Marc 1433
Florent, Oliver 1389
Will Hayward 1126
Ainsworth, Ben 1121
Evans, Francis 984
Newman, Nic 943
Harry McKay 943
Dean, Harry 782
Matthew Carroll 769
Haynes, Nick 763
Kemp, Brodie 735
Mitch McGovern 710
Weitering, Jacob 681
Cowan, Lachie 612
Ollie Hollands 482
Cerra, Adam 478
Hollands, Elijah 426
Byrne, Talor 422
Blake Acres 397
William, Zac 330
Lord, Cooper 250
Wilson, Billy 232
Wade Derksen 119
Young, Lewis 94
Cottrell, Matthew 59
Ison, Jack 43
Liam Reidy 28
Boyd, Jordan 27
Adam Saad 15
Flynn Young 8
Flynn Riley 6
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by LP -
No, because as we know, our list management is determined by committee with the coach, head of football and CEO all involved and sharing responsibility for direction and decisions. Another couple of KPPs would be nice, but not if they're like Harry Lemmey or Josh Schache.
Now we have a midfield bonanza, at least at the moment, TDK and Charlie have buggered off, and all of a sudden it's list mismanagement!
Some navigate list management like Captain Jack Sparrow's crazy compass, always pointing to what you desire without showing you a direction!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Award 2026
Last post by crashlander -To defeat the top team as we did was a huge result for us.
Trends:
[1] There were 12 voters this round, which is a little disappointing for such a stunning victory.
please do vote, win, lose or draw: it is something we appreciate and it makes our statistics a lot more reliable. And our statistics hold up pretty well when it comes to John Nicholls Medal night!
I must admit that I see a lot of names from previous campaigns who no longer vote and find that disheartening. I can only hope hope those posters are faring well.
[2] The rating was a 10.17, which represents an A! Voters were pleased with this one.
[3] 14 players managed a mention this week, which is reasonably typical of a win, but something a little less than some of our recent triumphs.
[4] The average vote this week was 33, which is very strong. Scores are around 30 are more usual when we win, so read into that what you will.
[5] Again 7 players managed 100 votes or more. To do this once was brilliant, but to repeat it is fantastic.
[6] It was really close at the top this week, with 5 votes separating Sam Walsh (282) from Frankie Evans (277). This was Walsh's 9th BOG for the season! Jagga Smith (3rd) also scored more than 200 votes!
[7] Only two players managed votes from everyone again this week; Walsh and Evans. Three others were close, missing either one or two.
[8] Our midfield guns dominated the voting this week for the 2nd week in a row. It wasn't that the others weren't any good, it was just that our midfield was phenomenal.
[9] Our youngsters again were significant. Smith was brilliant.
Votes:
Walsh, Sam 282
Evans, Francis 277
Smith, Jagga 203
Cripps, Patrick 175
Florent, Oliver 153
Ainsworth, Ben 141
Hewett, George 107
Pittonet, Marc 85
Acres, Blake 40
Wilson, Billy 28
Kemp, Brodie 17
Cerra, Adam 6
Lord, Cooper 6
Derksen, Wade 6
Progressive Voting:
Walsh, Sam 4470
Patrick Cripps 3797
Smith, Jagga 2575
Hewett, George 2002
Pittonet, Marc 1372
Florent, Oliver 1372
Will Hayward 1126
Evans, Francis 984
Newman, Nic 943
Harry McKay 943
Ainsworth, Ben 934
Matthew Carroll 769
Kemp, Brodie 731
Haynes, Nick 714
Mitch McGovern 710
Dean, Harry 692
Cowan, Lachie 592
Weitering, Jacob 466
Cerra, Adam 461
Hollands, Elijah 426
Byrne, Talor 422
Ollie Hollands 413
Blake Acres 397
William, Zac 330
Wilson, Billy 232
Lord, Cooper 204
Wade Derksen 119
Young, Lewis 94
Ison, Jack 43
Cottrell, Matthew 31
Liam Reidy 28
Boyd, Jordan 27
Adam Saad 15
Flynn Young 8
Flynn Riley 6
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by DJC -Was Austins greatest failing that he couldn't find a couple of understudy KPF's and the reason why he was shown the door?
No, because as we know, our list management is determined by committee with the coach, head of football and CEO all involved and sharing responsibility for direction and decisions. Another couple of KPPs would be nice, but not if they're like Harry Lemmey or Josh Schache.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by bratblue -7
Notice Board (Visitors Enter Here) / Re: Where's EB1?
Last post by DJC -There could be any number of explanations for that but I’m taking it as a positive 🤞
Whatever the situation, Brother Elwood is an important and well-respected member of the CSC family and I join with others in wishing him well.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by RiverRat -Young had reached his ceiling and found wanting at AFL.
Not until we recruit or develop better options.
Young earned his place in the team after spending much of the season in the VFL
Best to give someone else a go. Even a MSD pick might be OK
Why do we persist with players that won’t be part of a premiership team?
With so many teams in the league (and another one on the way) the depth of talent has never been worse and the mechanisms for recruiting or developing better players (especially tall options) have never been so strained. You only need to look at our VFL team to realise that the number of players capable of playing better than guys like Young are few and far between.
Dropping players from the list - just because of limitations to their potential ceilings - could well consign a club to long-term failure - e.g. since 1995.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -Young had reached his ceiling and found wanting at AFL.
Not until we recruit or develop better options.
Young earned his place in the team after spending much of the season in the VFL
Best to give someone else a go. Even a MSD pick might be OK
Why do we persist with players that won’t be part of a premiership team?
There isn't anyone else, this is the problem.
We have refused to draft someone to move into these roles when we know they are not up to it.
HOK was the great white hope and turned out to be a lot worse than young.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Thryleon -Young had reached his ceiling and found wanting at AFL.
Not until we recruit or develop better options.
Young earned his place in the team after spending much of the season in the VFL
Best to give someone else a go. Even a MSD pick might be OK
Why do we persist with players that won’t be part of a premiership team?
With that logic none of our players should be persisted with.
Its the worst way to manage a list. You never go forwards because you cast off players who might have a bigger say than others at that point in their careers. Some of the guys we are going to cut are in the prime of their career and have max 2 years of their best footy in them.
Some of the guys we are going to keep are a week to week proposition.
Some of them have 10 years of footy in front of them.
Which ones isnt about whos in our next flag, its whos going to play for us next season. Guys like newman and haynes are unlikely to feature in our next flag, but come round 1 2027, they're in line for selection because they're good enough.
Thats how you breed competition for spots, and hunger to win a flag. Not by rewarding kids because they might be good enough one day, or by flinging loose 27 year olds because they arent Wayne Carey. Thats cutting players for the sake of it.
Who goes should solely be about what comes in to replace them and what else can realistically be rexruited to replace them.