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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Professer E – on
Because I'm right in my calls more often than not when it comes to young players and I'll back my own judgement over yours.  Anyone who pumped up Jack Martin's tyres has very little credibility in my eyes.

I'll agree to disagree on how often you are right.

I'll also point out that malcolm blight said jack martin had the best highlights package he has ever seen. Ignirungnwhere he wss drafted, and traded to us, the all conquering cats who are very shrewd at the draft/trade game and are the gold standard IMO saw enough in Jack Martin to waste a list spot on him.
If that is you claiming a victory them in not surprised you think you get it right now often than you actually do.

All im saying is that you don't have a bad thing to say about any of our kids, which simply isn't realistic. So when you pump up an individuals tyres, you need to take off the prof pump up tax to get to the actual value.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Lods -
There's the counterview though, which some seem to hold,  that unless you play like Koutoufides then you don't 'cut the mustard'.

At the moment there would be players throughout the league, on the fringe of AFL or playing VFL that we wouldn't know from a bar of soap. Every team would have them. They're the footsoldiers and role players who, when given the opportunity, allow the elite to perform at their best. We don't know much about them now but we may by the end of the season.
That kid languishing in the VFL at the moment may be winning you games by the end of the year and some will even be premiership players.
They won't all be newbies either. Some will have spent a couple of years on a list before being given real opportunities. You don't always walk from the draft and straight into a side

So why are some of our guys playing VFL rather than AFL?
Well there are a few there who've had injury concerns.
They've had an interupted end to their pre-season and start to the regular season, plus....

The ridiculous and interrupted scheduling of the VFL this year has meant that players have had limited opportunities to push a case for senior selection. It's an almost certainty that we have players there that will be playing regular senior football by the end of the season. While the senior team has played 5 games the VFL team has played 2.
It's pretty hard to press a claim if you aren't playing.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Professer E – on
I think Billy is a lot better value than you make out EB, at least he has pace, something out list has very little of.  That puts him ahead of plonker like Boyd et al

You think every player is better than people make out.
Every player that gets delisted at seasons end was a good player that year in your eyes.

How come all these players are playing vfl and our afl and vfl teams are largely crap?

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Lods – on
That's right, we often see things differently.
We have set ideas about what we look for in players and sometimes their good is maginfied as is the bad depending on those perceptions.
I'm finding that seems to be magnified for some reasons this year...and there is a lot of difference of opinion over individuals.


Agree on the magnification of opinions this season, think its such a crunch year for the club, players and coach that hardcore fans in particular are more critical and less forgiving about failure and impatient about where the direction of the club is going.
I know I am ....
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Lods -
That's right, we often see things differently.
We have set ideas about what we look for in players and sometimes their good is maginfied as is the bad depending on those perceptions.
I'm finding that seems to be magnified for some reasons this year...and there is a lot of difference of opinion over individuals.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 5 2026 Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by rocky -
Team: C

3  Pittonet - His best season by far, so far.
3  Cripps - Busted his arse all night. No help from the maggots. If only he could kick.
2  Walsh - On a flyer until our coach stopped his momentum
1  E Hollands - Creative as always. If only he was faster.
1  Haynes - Was a different player after the rain storm in the 3rd
1  Carroll - I think this bloke doesn't get enought credit. Works hard. Good kick
1  McGovern - Consistantly pops up with a couple of goals
1  Newman - Our best defender.
1  McKay - Did not get outmarked. Presented at every opportunity. Brought the ball to ground. Can't ask for more on a wet night.
1  Evans - Don't understand the hate for Frankie. ALWAYS tries to create something from nothing. 6 tackles (4 i50), 5 I50's and kicks a goal. Not bad for the little man