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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Lods -
The issue lies not with the everyday run-of-the mill citizen who are able to make the distinction between the radical nonsense and ridiculous suggestions
The problem comes when the extreme messages get taken up by those suffering from a mental issue or extremist views and are then acted upon.
Sometimes it only takes a sideways glance or comment to trigger that behaviour.

The ears pricked up when it was revealed that 'anti-terror' personnel were involved in the investigation of the Haines incident.
Terrorism?

It turns out that one explanation may be that at some point a 'once fan', most likely suffering from mental health isssues, has been put off by a comment, perhaps even in a private conversation or message, and that has triggered him to the extent that he carried out the offence.

The alleged offender's parent's have suggested a long term friendship with Helen Haines. At the very least they were acquainted...and that would probably have extended to their son. They reportedly appeared have at one time shared similar views on a number of social and environmental issues

The extent of any realtionship, motives and the mental health of the offender will be for the courts to decide...but  it does remain that the events are almost always the result of inflammatory messaging that sets off the 'not right-minded' to act aggressively.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
The AFP commissioner said that they are charging close to one person every week with threatening a Commonwealth politician.  I suspect that many are keyboard warriors with no means or intention of actually carrying out their threat, but that's not the point.  Politicians of all persuasions should be be able to represent their constituents without having to worry about their safety.

Any number of factors may be motivating those making threats but I can't help but think that the language politicians use about each other, and the language that public figures use about politicians, plays a significant role.  For example, Lib MP Angie Bell recently said that Anne Aly and Anthony Albanese "should be shamed and stoned in the square.” Anne Aly subsequently revealed that she has had 19 death threats this week.  Then there's Alan Jones advocating for Julia Gillard and Bob Brown to be placed in a "chaff bag" and dumped "as far out to sea as they can".  All sides of politics are guilty of inappropriate language and threatening, demeaning language against female politicians is being used all around the world.

It's time that our politicians took a stand and eliminated violent, threatening and demeaning language from political discourse.



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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
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An awful situation. Hope she pulls through.

Its beyond awful and never thought our once safe country would ever see crimes like this. 

Hopefully we can turn it around.

This is just the latest blow in the war against women that has been a part of our culture since the arrival of the first fleet.  If you don’t understand that, you must have your head in the sand 🙁
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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There is going to be a lot of angry posters come 28th November ;)

Not me!
I live in Queensland. ;)  :D

Seriously though, I just think what you folk are going to end up with is a bit of a mess, with no party having absolute control or a mandate and reliant on deals and compromise to get legislation through.
"Going to end up in a mess" Lods? This state is a farken hot mess now mate.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by kruddler -
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Be careful what you wish for is all i'm saying.

I'm not saying there is a magic button to fix everything, but one way or another it will get worse before it gets better. How much worse is up for debate and time will tell.

Kruddler, theres risks in every change and of course whatever you have may not be as bad as what you can get - that's life and if that's your way of thinking stay in bed pull the covers over yourself and stay there all day.

Voting for Labour is endorsing the current state we are in and why it just cant happen and i dont think it will.

Sure there are risks.

We, as a country, are going to go on a journey.

We can choose Liberal....and it might be the old rusted commodore that you keep throwing money at in the hope to get it back to the glory days.
We can choose Labor....and it might be the 2nd hand boat your bought that constantly leaks and never runs right. Throwing money at it hand over fist.
or
We can choose One Nation....and it might be a rocket ship with ACME written on the side. We know we are in for a journey, but have no idea where it will take us, but almost guarantee its not where you are hoping, and it never ends well.

The first 2, are old and busted, but there is a proven track record, IF you can work out the kinks.
The 3rd option....is a ride nobody will want to be on once it takes off.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: shawny – on
There is going to be a lot of angry posters come 28th November ;)

And about 12 months after that there will be a lot of angry Victorians, many of whom will be experiencing buyer's remorse, and for whom the famous "leopards ate my face" meme will unfortunately be quite appropriate, much like Trump supporters in the US.