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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by DJC -
One needs to mediate carefully between the group and the individual. There may be a small element of truth to certain groups conforming to certain behaviors, but that needs to be measured against that fact we are individual minds, and you need to be wary of flattening or erasing any nuance or legitimate difference that exists between members of a group.

In terms of parental pushiness, my experiences were decidedly mixed, with 2 children involved in soccer, cricket, swimming, ballet, fencing, drama, choir, art classes, gymnastics. Pushy parents come in all shapes and skin colors, as do chill parents.

This is wise words.

That being said, our work has put on 2 'indian cultural days' where the goal is to help understand the differences between Indians and 'traditional' clients and how to navigate this without being offensive.

It was run by an indian woman who has been in Melbourne for almost 2 decades now.

Summarised best by explaining India is so big and varied its best thinking about it essentially as different countries. Wealth, education, language, religion, mannerisms all change depending on where you are.

However, take home message is this. As a general rule, "if you don't ask, you don't get" and "You can't say 'no' to indians" put a lot of people offside from our end. Culturally, they are 'pushy' because they need to be. There's a billion other people they are competing with. While as a group/company, we acknowledge this, but its poor form to bow down to such demands in comparison to any other client. Why should they get favouritism simply because they are pushy??

Obviously, within that individual personalities vary, just like other cultures, but they acknowledge themselves its part of theirs. This certainly does show up in sports and with pushy parents.

For those interested in movies, 'Dangal' is an indian movie based of real events of an overbearing parent going against tradition and training his daughters up to be world class wrestlers, competing at commonwealth and olympic games as a result. A great standalone movie in its own right, but gives you a look at 'the other side'.

Nice post Kruddler!

I haven't been to India but I hope to one day.  A lot of what I know about India has been gleaned from cricket commentators like Harsha Bhogle on the wireless.  They often stress how diverse India is with so many different religions, ethnic groups, languages, cuisines, cultural practices, etc, etc.

One of my former colleagues is from Nigeria but he obtained one of his degrees at Guru Nanak Dev University in Amritsar.  Some of his fellow students were Muslims and they couldn't get beef in Amritsar. Mba was travelling to a Muslim city and they asked him to bring some beef back with him on the bus.  Unfortunately, one of the passengers noticed blood dripping from Mba's bag and he was confronted.  He fessed up and was worried that he was about to be kicked off the bus in the middle of nowhere.  However, all of the other passengers left the bus and he returned to Anritsar by himself.  
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by DJC -
The attempt to obfuscate the need for Congressional authority to use force under US domestic law won’t work if a couple of Republicans grow a spine.

While the US attacks in Venezuela are clearly a breach of Article 2(4) of the UN charter, nothing will come of that … apart from Putin acknowledging that international law does apply to other countries.

Taco was quick to bully Nigeria using the false claims that Christians are being killed.  The strike he ordered, without Congressional approval, was ineffective, unless you’re the owner of one of the mud huts the missiles hit.

No prizes for guessing what Nigeria and Venezuela have in common but Nigeria also has significant lithium deposits.

I suspect that Russia and/or China will be extending the hand of friendship to Bola Tinubu.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by kruddler -
One needs to mediate carefully between the group and the individual. There may be a small element of truth to certain groups conforming to certain behaviors, but that needs to be measured against that fact we are individual minds, and you need to be wary of flattening or erasing any nuance or legitimate difference that exists between members of a group.

In terms of parental pushiness, my experiences were decidedly mixed, with 2 children involved in soccer, cricket, swimming, ballet, fencing, drama, choir, art classes, gymnastics. Pushy parents come in all shapes and skin colors, as do chill parents.

This is wise words.

That being said, our work has put on 2 'indian cultural days' where the goal is to help understand the differences between Indians and 'traditional' clients and how to navigate this without being offensive.

It was run by an indian woman who has been in Melbourne for almost 2 decades now.

Summarised best by explaining India is so big and varied its best thinking about it essentially as different countries. Wealth, education, language, religion, mannerisms all change depending on where you are.

However, take home message is this. As a general rule, "if you don't ask, you don't get" and "You can't say 'no' to indians" put a lot of people offside from our end. Culturally, they are 'pushy' because they need to be. There's a billion other people they are competing with. While as a group/company, we acknowledge this, but its poor form to bow down to such demands in comparison to any other client. Why should they get favouritism simply because they are pushy??

Obviously, within that individual personalities vary, just like other cultures, but they acknowledge themselves its part of theirs. This certainly does show up in sports and with pushy parents.

For those interested in movies, 'Dangal' is an indian movie based of real events of an overbearing parent going against tradition and training his daughters up to be world class wrestlers, competing at commonwealth and olympic games as a result. A great standalone movie in its own right, but gives you a look at 'the other side'.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by Professer E -
Hearing you, bizzaro world selectors playing games again.

Farewell test for Usman when his entire series hasn't warranted selection.  The circus around the Perth test hasn't endeared himself to everyone.
Green underlines that an all-rounder needs to be test standard in both disciplines to justify selection...it might be 140 km/hr but too much trash and not enough wicket taking deliveries. Like a diet version of Watson.
Neser and Boland too similar for mind.
Smith and Marnus patchy all series.
And not investing in a spinner (captains call).  Not on.
Real missed opportunity to give someone else a go, amazed we won the series with so many passengers and non-contributors in the side.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Baggers -
The US Senate and House of Representatives weren’t notified of the Venezuela military action and did not authorise it.

That makes the action illegal under US law (and international law) but I doubt whether the GOP majority has the balls to stand up to Taco.

This wasn't a military operation though.
 ::)
It was a Drug Enforcement Agency operation ;)
There was even a guy with a DEA patch on his uniform there :D
The military were just along for the ride and to make sure the DEA folks were OK ::)  ::)  ::)

Seriously though, even if they would have us believe that line, there is so much wrong with the fact that a US legal system can lay charges against a foreign national, whose crimes weren't actually committed in the USA, and then their military can cross international borders to carry out an arrest without going through some type of proper extradition process.

Imagine if that happened in reverse.
And the Venezuelan government charged Donald Trump with kidnapping Maduro.
And Venezuelan military arrested Trump and took him to Venezuela. ::)  ::)  ::)

It's a power imbalance
One side has the capability
The other does not

So for the current United States administration nothing is off the table.
Normal conventions and practices don't apply.
They've gone rogue.




Yep, the only reason they have gotten away with it (so far) is because the leader was not liked. Does this seem a little similar to another leader who had weapons of mass destruction **cough, splutter, wink** Good old oil, eh! Cue the Beverley Hillbillies opening theme song.

Vladimir will not be happy with you, Donald.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Lods -
The US Senate and House of Representatives weren’t notified of the Venezuela military action and did not authorise it.

That makes the action illegal under US law (and international law) but I doubt whether the GOP majority has the balls to stand up to Taco.

This wasn't a military operation though.
 ::)
It was a Drug Enforcement Agency operation ;)
There was even a guy with a DEA patch on his uniform there :D
The military were just along for the ride and to make sure the DEA folks were OK ::)  ::)  ::)

Seriously though, even if they would have us believe that line, there is so much wrong with the fact that a US legal system can lay charges against a foreign national, whose crimes weren't actually committed in the USA, and then their military can cross international borders to carry out an arrest without going through some type of proper extradition process.

Imagine if that happened in reverse.
And the Venezuelan government charged Donald Trump with kidnapping Maduro.
And Venezuelan military arrested Trump and took him to Venezuela. ::)  ::)  ::)

It's a power imbalance
One side has the capability
The other does not

So for the current United States administration nothing is off the table.
Normal conventions and practices don't apply.
They've gone rogue.


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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by DJC -
The US Senate and House of Representatives weren’t notified of the Venezuela military action and did not authorise it.

That makes the action illegal under US law (and international law) but I doubt whether the GOP majority has the balls to stand up to Taco.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by crashlander -
I do wonder what our selectors are trying to do far too often.
[1] Not playing a spinner at the SCG is not good planning. Even with he pitch having grass, it was designed to last. That will require a decent spinner.
I heard an interesting line on the ABC as I was coming home from the Gym. The comment was that while the pitch wasn't favouring spin, it wasn't favouring swing or cut. That bodes very poorly.
[2] Our batting line-up: who is going to bat where? Who should bat where? Neither question has a clear answer.
[3] Bringing in new blood: we appear to be lacking in that area. We've spent a lot of time trying Green, who has not yet delivered. But when we replace a pace bowler, do we bring in someone new? Not, an experienced guy.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Lods -
Taco's very worrying announcements include:

"We're going to have our very large United States oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure."

"We'll be selling large amounts of oil."

However, US oil giants haven't responded to Taco's claims.  Chevron, is the only US oil company currently operating in Venezuela, and they have undertaken to follow Venezuela's “relevant laws and regulations”.  I suspect that Taco doesn't understand that multinational companies have to operate in an international context and can't play fast a loose with the resources of sovereign nations.

The formerly US-backed opposition leader and  Nobel Peace Prize winner, Maria Corina Machado, seems to have had the rug pulled out from under her.  Despite her "the hour of freedom has arrived" comment, Taco says that Machado doesn't have "support or respect".  He is backing Maduro's deputy, Delcy Rodriguez, saying "she's essentially willing to do what we think is necessary to make Venezuela great again." 🤮

Of course, Rodriguez is remaining loyal to Maduro and is promising to resist US aggression ... for now.

It's sounding more and more like there were elements of the Venezuelan administration who were actively involved in negotiating Maduro's capture.
Rodriguez and some of the military may have been involved.
While she publicly condemns the USA it's no certainty she isn't just blustering for a bit of a show and will fall into line.

One suggestion floating around regarding the oil is that by controlling it it will limit the supply to Cuba thus derailing the ruling regime there.
That would be a feather Trump would like to add to his cap.