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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
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However, FoI is not a Royal Commission and the diarist can be compelled to explain their diary entries.
And they can explain the contents however they like, you just can't infer meaning outside of a direct interpretation by the author!

In the R&D sector, be it somewhere like CSIRO or commercial, it's very common for researchers to use their own task specific shorthand that is designed to avoid reproduction if the diary is lost or stolen. It's considered a safeguard, and they do it for both communications and math. Equations can look completely wrong or unintelligible.

I tried this myself once, but I could never remember what I was going to write.

PS; I have a mate who is a globally renowned engineer, he has dyslexia and documents everything in minute detail. You can't read a line of it because he's invented his own written language.

I suffer from something I've labelled Scribolepsy, give me a pen and paper and it's like sedative!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
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I’m not sure what the public servant was thinking, but apparently even the unredacted version of his diary doesn’t make a lot of sense.
The problem with a diary is that there are no demand on syntax or language, it can be as cryptic, vague or specific as the notetaker likes but it doesn't need to be consistent.

Yes, when I was a public servant we were told that our diaries weren’t subject to Freedom of Information because they could be in the owner’s version of shorthand and couldn’t be reliably interpreted by someone else.  However, FoI is not a Royal Commission and the diarist can be compelled to explain their diary entries.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
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Before HD Video, pretty much every bowler would be running their thumbnail around the seam on the way back the mark, every bowler at every level from every country. I'm sure it was always illegal, any attempt to tamper with the seam of the cricket ball is, but doing so was ubiquitous.

The thought back in the old days was that opening the seams increased both swing and seam, but actually it's since be proven to be bogus with results unable to be reproduced.

Now if it happens, it's more about damaging a dud pill to get it replaced with a new one, and there is one specific country that does this far far more than any other!
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by DJC -
If I remember correctly, several cases of ball tampering have been detected by the umpires noticing a change in the condition of the ball.

Cummins was pretty staunch in his rejection of Khawaja’s allegation and was somewhat Dan Andrews like in his willingness to stay and answer all questions put to him.

I’m none the wiser but I can’t help but think that those involved were incredibly naive to think that they wouldn’t get caught 🙄
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by LP -
In some ways the truth has already surfaced, there isn't a debate about whether there was or wasn't an issue, that is both settled and admitted.

Now it's more you too, but I'd assert it's pretty much everybody and the allegations are wrongly focussed, people in glass houses should beware!

Rescuers often drown while trying to save the drowning.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
The unredacted diary was provided to the Commission as soon as it was requested, with an apology for originally providing the redacted copy.

I’m not sure what the public servant was thinking, but apparently even the unredacted version of his diary doesn’t make a lot of sense.

The journalists covering the Commission get to see the documents to be tabled and are told who will be called on the following day but are under an embargo and can’t reveal any information until the documents are tabled and/or witnesses are called.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
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You really need to think before you post nonsense Shawny ... and you need to stop trying to deflect with continual references to Taco in this thread and continual references to Australian governments in the Taco thread.  They're completely separate issues ... and threads. 

It is the Royal Commission into the Integrity of Major Public and Civil Infrastructure Construction Projects in Victoria.  It was called by the State Labor Government "to inquire into and report on matters relating to corruption, criminal conduct and serious misconduct on or in relation to major construction projects in Victoria."  The allegations that prompted the Royal Commission concerned corruption and criminal conduct by the CFMEU and construction companies and poor oversight by government agencies and, potentially, the Government.  The Commission is in the first week of its first block of public hearings and, to be perfectly honest, it hasn't even begun to warm up.

Your spinning responses actually remind me of Andrews with his covid responses when pressed. Avoid any part that may show you up and go off on a tangent raising different points to move the narrative. 

I will try one more time: Why is a royal commission needed if our polices (cheques and balances) are set up to prevent corruption.

I think you mean checks and balances - cheques are last century now.

A Royal Commission is the ultimate in checks and balances.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Professer E -
I'm with Shawny on the redacted documents....produce the primary document or face contempt.  I see no legitimate reason to produce redacted material- "commercial in confidence" is a weak excuse in a RC in which such documents are probably central to the entire affair. Redacted text is not transparency and it reeks of guilt.