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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS
Last post by Lods -
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Quote from: shawny – on
Dean, Jagga, Cowan, Wilson, Ainsworth and Haywood have all been great this year and made us a more even list
Dean and Smith will suffer 2nd year blues, all players do, will we'll have to sack the new coach for making them go backwards!

Watch this space!

Nick Daicos didn't. ;)  :D
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS
Last post by LP -
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The next year Cripps won the Brownlow, Curnow kicked 64 goals and we recruited Hewitt and Cerra - How good a coach was Voss?  Did Teague get any credit for player development?
Of course he did, at least he did from anyone not blinded by hate or rage.

Did Teague return, no, will Voss return, no, does Voss deserve some credit, absolutely he does!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 15 2026 Carlton vs GWS
Last post by crashlander -
AFL Rd 15 2026   Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Rating:    A-
We may have dominated the game for much of it, but our forward work is still very much in need of improvement. Until we can kick the goals to put teams away, we will remain less than what we could be.
That said, we did manage to put away a good team at home, which is something we have struggled with in recent times.

Votes:
Not for the first time, it is difficult to give votes for this game simply because we have so many contributors. It has been a trend we’ve seen in recent years as we share our votes out more than we did when I started analysing the voting. It is also a trend I don’t mind seeing, as I don’t want us to be to dependent on a couple of stars.
[1.5]   Patrick Cripps
[1.5]   Sam Walsh
[1.5]   George Hewett
[1.5]   Harry Dean
[1]   Jagga Smith
[1]   Nic Newman
[1]   Blake Acres
[1]   Lachie Cowan
[1]   Wade Derksen
[1]   Nick Haynes
[0.5]   Oliver Florent
[0.5]   Matthew Cottrell
[0.5]   Will Hayward
[0.5]   Brodie Kemp
[0.5]   Billie Wilson
[0.5]   Francis Evans

Explanations:
[1.5]   Patrick Cripps:      33 possessions, 3 tackles, 7 clearances, another excellent game and part of a dominant midfield group.
[1.5]   Sam Walsh:      34 possessions, 2 tackles, 5 clearances, and another really strong game.
[1.5]   George Hewett:   30 possessions, 4 tackles and 5 clearances were another sign of his return to form.
[1.5]   Harry Dean:      Harry did a fantastic job of keeping Cadman quiet and providing drive himself.
[1.5]   Jagga Smith:      26 possessions, 1 tackle and 6 clearances rounds out a great midfield effort.
[1]   Nic Newman:      Very much back in form, if a little slower than he once was. 25 possessions, 12 marks and an excellent defensive job.
[1]   Blake Acres:      Blake was excellent again, running up and down his wing.
[1]   Lachie Cowan:   Strong in defence.
[1]   Wade Derksen:   Probably his best game so far, he got possessions and kept his opponents quiet.
[1]   Nick Haynes:      Another excellent effort in defence.
[0.5]   Oliver Florent:      His disposal may not be perfect, but he’s been playing well and providing a lot of drive.
[0.5]   Matthew Cottrell:   His best game for some time.
[0.5]   Will Hayward:      Another solid effort, with some important goals.
[0.5]   Brodie Kemp:      Kemp could have been a total matchwinner, but 1 goal 5 ruined an otherwise fine effort.
[0.5]   Billie Wilson:      Another solid game in defence.
[0.5]   Francis Evans:   Got the goals that he has struggled to get at times this year. A fine job.

Honourable Mentions:
Adam Cerra:         Cerra has been good since he moved to the wing.
Ben Ainsworth:      Another good effort. His first goal was magical.
Mitch McGovern:      Worked hard, but the goals didn’t come.
Marc Pittonet:         A strong effort, even though he was beaten on the day.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Fit or not fit we are heavily dependent on Cripps still and to a lesser extent Walsh if they dont play well we still struggle.
Its not healthy moving forward and not sustainable imho, Bulldogs have the same problem with Bont having to be in the best players on the ground each week for them to win.

Agree but think we are improving in this space.  While there is no doubt Cripps and Walsh hitting form we are harder to beat i feel we are building more strings to our bow.

Dean, Jagga, Cowan, Wilson, Ainsworth and Haywood have all been great this year and made us a more even list
 
Weitering was another that needed to play for us to win but we seem less reliant on him too.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 15 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs GWS
Last post by RiverRat -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
If folks want to make comparisons between Voss and Fraser look don't look at recent history.
Look at the last half of 2023 and  now.
Same/same

That 2023 run we built on the back of relentless pressure and effort, double teaming in tackles.
We lost our way in 2024- 2025.
A lot of that was the result of injury and in 2025 off-field disaffection and division.
That pressure and effort...and belief is back now.

You know what else is the same???
A fit Patrick Cripps.

Was he fit at the start of the year? No.
Walsh? No.

Makes a difference when your good players are fit. Who'd have thunk it?!

The same pattern evolved when Teague was coach - Cripps was injured in 2021 (only 5 votes in the Brownlow) and Curnow only played the last few games of the season - The next year Cripps won the Brownlow, Curnow kicked 64 goals and we recruited Hewitt and Cerra - How good a coach was Voss?  Did Teague get any credit for player development?