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Quote from: Gointocarlton – on May 22, 2026, 09:32:28 am

I want to understand the reasoning behind arresting those responsible for pouring petrol on a building and lighting it and then releasing them with a slap on the wrist. Ill bet both my balls they got out and set fire to another building and collect another 20K each. Sounds like easy work, might consider it myself. Perhaps we should go around to schools and promote this lucrative and entrepreneurial business.

I guess it's down to the fundamental legal principle that "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall have the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law."  The fact that the arsonists are all teenagers goes in their favour too.

The latest three arsonists arrested, one of whom set himself on fire  , have been charged with aggravated burglary, criminal damage by fire, handling stolen goods, committing an indictable offence while on bail and possession of cannabis.  Committing an indictable offence while on bail means revocation of bail and a mandatory three months behind bars in addition to any other sanctions. Sadly though, I don't believe that these kids will be deterred or reformed by prison.

Quote from: DJC – on May 22, 2026, 11:09:32 am

I guess it's down to the fundamental legal principle that "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall have the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law."  The fact that the arsonists are all teenagers goes in their favour too.

The latest three arsonists arrested, one of whom set himself on fire  , have been charged with aggravated burglary, criminal damage by fire, handling stolen goods, committing an indictable offence while on bail and possession of cannabis.  Committing an indictable offence while on bail means revocation of bail and a mandatory three months behind bars in addition to any other sanctions. Sadly though, I don't believe that these kids will be deterred or reformed by prison.

Innocent until proven guilty, sure.

But there is taking the piss. If what you say is true, one was caught 'red handed', that is literally burned in the process! Yet is still innocent and allowed to roam free. Surely there has to be a bit more common sense in this.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on May 22, 2026, 09:32:28 am

I want to understand the reasoning behind arresting those responsible for pouring petrol on a building and lighting it and then releasing them with a slap on the wrist. Ill bet both my balls they got out and set fire to another building and collect another 20K each. Sounds like easy work, might consider it myself. Perhaps we should go around to schools and promote this lucrative and entrepreneurial business.

I guess it's down to the fundamental legal principle that "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall have the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law."  The fact that the arsonists are all teenagers goes in their favour too.

The latest three arsonists arrested, one of whom set himself on fire  , have been charged with aggravated burglary, criminal damage by fire, handling stolen goods, committing an indictable offence while on bail and possession of cannabis.  Committing an indictable offence while on bail means revocation of bail and a mandatory three months behind bars in addition to any other sanctions. Sadly though, I don't believe that these kids will be deterred or reformed by prison.

Quote from: DJC – on May 21, 2026, 10:39:24 pm

According to the police OIC, all of those responsible for the fire bombings have been apprehended and charged.  Apparently they get paid $20K for each job.

It seems that the organised crime gang behind the fire bombings is likely to be an offshore operation so particularly difficult for the police to crack.

Yes the government could introduce laws to make it harder for these crime gangs to operate but they’d never be passed by the upper house and would be a severe restriction on our civil liberties.

The government has already tightened bail laws but, again, they can only go so far before their laws are deemed to be unconstitutional.

I want to understand the reasoning behind arresting those responsible for pouring petrol on a building and lighting it and then releasing them with a slap on the wrist. Ill bet both my balls they got out and set fire to another building and collect another 20K each. Sounds like easy work, might consider it myself. Perhaps we should go around to schools and promote this lucrative and entrepreneurial business.

According to the police OIC, all of those responsible for the fire bombings have been apprehended and charged.  Apparently they get paid $20K for each job.

It seems that the organised crime gang behind the fire bombings is likely to be an offshore operation so particularly difficult for the police to crack.

Yes the government could introduce laws to make it harder for these crime gangs to operate but they’d never be passed by the upper house and would be a severe restriction on our civil liberties.

The government has already tightened bail laws but, again, they can only go so far before their laws are deemed to be unconstitutional.

Our line-up:

B:   14 Oliver Florent   47 Wade Derksen   2 Lachlan Cowan
HB:   24 Nic Newman   35 Harry Dean   15 Billy Wilson
C:   5 Adam Cerra   18 Sam Walsh   32 Matthew Carroll
HF:   19 Will Hayward   17 Brodie Kemp   30 Jack Ison
F:   39 Talor Byrne   10 Harry McKay   12 Ben Ainsworth
R:   27 Marc Pittonet   7 Jagga Smith   9 Patrick Cripps
Int:   26 Nick Haynes   29 George Hewett   45 Flynn Young   11 Mitch McGovern   44 Francis Evans
Em:  25 Liam Reidy   33 Lewis Young   13 Blake Acres

[1] I would have thought Young would come in for Weitering. Hope Derksen can do the job. If we win in the midfield he might. If they stream out of the middle, Georgiades will get a lot of ball.

[2] Acres: is he as out of favour as Boyd has become? He is in form. Not sure Cerra is a wingman ...

[3] One ruck each. Point source error or masterstroke? We don't have much backup.