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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Gointocarlton -


Great post
Michael Voss has only survived because 3 (can’t kick for goal), 5 (no run with player with pace/strength), 6(repeated poor decision making) and 9 (no ruck man) is what he’s working with.

Arguably 5 could be addressed by a good system/coach but we’re a mess. A good side would have smashed Collingwood tonight.
We are bottom 4 if not bottom 2.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by JonDorotich -
Got back not long ago. Not happy. Another game we threw away.

[1] At least we did come back after we'd been pounded in the first 8 minutes of the last quarter. The result should have been a draw, although we were the better team for all but about 8 minutes.

[2] We seriously need a new coach. I'm sure we'll get one at season's end. We were out-coached when it mattered by half a Collingwood side. Why? We do not learn. If we can see the issues we have for more than a year, and none of them appear to have been addressed, you ask what the problem is.

[3] I am seriously disappointed with Talor Byrne tonight. He did some good thing, promising things, but when it mattered he really failed to stand up. Three shots at goal from no more than 40 m for 2 points, including the last, when it mattered, were critical.
Unfortunately, he wasn't alone. H kicked 1 goal 4 after dominating his position. That just isn't good enough for a professional key forward.
I don't want to dump on Matt Carroll, because he played a good game, but in the last quarter he had a couple of shots for nothing. He is normally a good kick, but he really missed when it was important.
Brodie Kemp: kicks the hard ones, but can't kick them from 20 out directly in front.

[4] I don't want to touch the Elijah Hollands matter. I've had anxiety issues: when it is really bad, you can't get out of bed, let alone play decent football. If he was that screwed up, we should never have played him. Flynn Young was available.

[5] Ollie Hollands is not a run-with player. he was given the job and came up really short. Daicos killed him when it mattered. His last quarter was like Walsh's 1st quarter last week: the difference.
We need very badly to recruit or develop a really athletic run-with player who can keep the opposition's best mids out of the game. At the moment, we don't have one.
Lord sometimes get the job, and he can do it well against anyone is similar speed. He wouldn't have been the match-up for Nick Daicos.
Losing Cincotta has really hurt us.

[6] I'm not sure if it all about our coaching, but our players can be seriously stupid sometimes.
(a) Lachie Cowan had some moment tonight that were just diabolical. Instead of taking the first option, he ran himself into trouble and screwed up.
(b) Adam Cerra wasn't far behind him. His decision making under pressure was dreadful, as was his kicking. He panicked, and it cost us goals.
(c) Kemp also stood out, fumbling marks he was taking early, falling over his own feet ... I just don't want to think about the rest.
(d) Although he wasn't bad tonight, H can be like that. He goes to ground too easily too often and his decision making can be dreadful. But tonight he was pretty good, but for his kicking. he needs to go back and get his kicking right before he loses us another game.

[7] Free kick to H, directly in front in the last quarter? Of course not. He's taken off with concussion and he doesn't get a too-high free.
I could go on about the umpires, but I've written enough about these guys. I'm over them. When we play well enough, we can go back to ignoring the stupid decisions they make.

[8] We probably lost the game by depending of Lewis Young as a 2nd ruck. I thought he wasn't bad, for the most part, but he was slaughtered in the ruck. It was the difference between winning and losing.

[9] I know Pitto works like a Trojan every week, but other rucks can lift in the last quarter and change the game. Pitto can't. When Steene got on top for those first 8 minutes, Collingwood got the ball out of middle quickly and we couldn't stop them.


Great post
Michael Voss has only survived because 3 (can’t kick for goal), 5 (no run with player with pace/strength), 6(repeated poor decision making) and 9 (no ruck man) is what he’s working with.

Arguably 5 could be addressed by a good system/coach but we’re a mess. A good side would have smashed Collingwood tonight.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by kruddler -
Sad part is Elijah has been our bedt player this year.

Hes llayed 1 good game, maybe 2, but was terrible to the point he shouldve been dropped.

He had played 75% game time up to 3/4 time iirc.

Tog by 1/4
87%
83%
55%
25%

Ended with 1 posession which got a 1m gain in the 3rd quarter.
Id looked at 3/4 time and he still had donuts.
Maybe the afl gifted him a touch in an attempt to hide the problem?

Saw vision of him on the bench in the last quarter sitting alone. He looked to be gesturing and motioning to himself. You know the way they portray crazy people in movies? Was definitely not right.

Commentators on the night said elijah didn't know where he is supposed to be. Which was after the 6 6 6 warning.

The footage shown already and there is more.

I hope this is the last time we see him in navy blue.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Got back not long ago. Not happy. Another game we threw away.

[1] At least we did come back after we'd been pounded in the first 8 minutes of the last quarter. The result should have been a draw, although we were the better team for all but about 8 minutes.

[2] We seriously need a new coach. I'm sure we'll get one at season's end. We were out-coached when it mattered by half a Collingwood side. Why? We do not learn. If we can see the issues we have for more than a year, and none of them appear to have been addressed, you ask what the problem is.

[3] I am seriously disappointed with Talor Byrne tonight. He did some good thing, promising things, but when it mattered he really failed to stand up. Three shots at goal from no more than 40 m for 2 points, including the last, when it mattered, were critical.
Unfortunately, he wasn't alone. H kicked 1 goal 4 after dominating his position. That just isn't good enough for a professional key forward.
I don't want to dump on Matt Carroll, because he played a good game, but in the last quarter he had a couple of shots for nothing. He is normally a good kick, but he really missed when it was important.
Brodie Kemp: kicks the hard ones, but can't kick them from 20 out directly in front.

[4] I don't want to touch the Elijah Hollands matter. I've had anxiety issues: when it is really bad, you can't get out of bed, let alone play decent football. If he was that screwed up, we should never have played him. Flynn Young was available.

[5] Ollie Hollands is not a run-with player. he was given the job and came up really short. Daicos killed him when it mattered. His last quarter was like Walsh's 1st quarter last week: the difference.
We need very badly to recruit or develop a really athletic run-with player who can keep the opposition's best mids out of the game. At the moment, we don't have one.
Lord sometimes get the job, and he can do it well against anyone is similar speed. He wouldn't have been the match-up for Nick Daicos.
Losing Cincotta has really hurt us.

[6] I'm not sure if it all about our coaching, but our players can be seriously stupid sometimes.
(a) Lachie Cowan had some moment tonight that were just diabolical. Instead of taking the first option, he ran himself into trouble and screwed up.
(b) Adam Cerra wasn't far behind him. His decision making under pressure was dreadful, as was his kicking. He panicked, and it cost us goals.
(c) Kemp also stood out, fumbling marks he was taking early, falling over his own feet ... I just don't want to think about the rest.
(d) Although he wasn't bad tonight, H can be like that. He goes to ground too easily too often and his decision making can be dreadful. But tonight he was pretty good, but for his kicking. he needs to go back and get his kicking right before he loses us another game.

[7] Free kick to H, directly in front in the last quarter? Of course not. He's taken off with concussion and he doesn't get a too-high free.
I could go on about the umpires, but I've written enough about these guys. I'm over them. When we play well enough, we can go back to ignoring the stupid decisions they make.

[8] We probably lost the game by depending of Lewis Young as a 2nd ruck. I thought he wasn't bad, for the most part, but he was slaughtered in the ruck. It was the difference between winning and losing.

[9] I know Pitto works like a Trojan every week, but other rucks can lift in the last quarter and change the game. Pitto can't. When Steene got on top for those first 8 minutes, Collingwood got the ball out of middle quickly and we couldn't stop them.
Spot on crash, ironically they beat us in 8 minutes with OUR one wood tactic.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by tex -

Gee that’s incredibly disappointing as he’d been our best player last few weeks. Just sad.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by crashlander -
When we get our new coach, we are going to have a lot a lot of trades.
[1]  Because too many of players cannot complete simple skills, whether they are under pressure or not.
[2] Too many of our players are physically weak and unable to run in the manner that the modern game requires.
[3] We need to recruit a young ruckman of the leaping variety, assuming the rules are not changed. We do not have top ruckman, no matter how hard Marc Pittonet works. He can only do so much.
To be honest, we haven't had a premier ruckman for a long time. Matthew Kreuzer was the closest, but his career was ruined by injury. Sauce Jacobs we let go. Hampson never quite made it, even with his extreme athleticism. Robert Warnock was the best, in a lot of ways, as he tended to lift in important games, even though he struggled to mark the ball. Injury ruined him too.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by crashlander -
Got back not long ago. Not happy. Another game we threw away.

[1] At least we did come back after we'd been pounded in the first 8 minutes of the last quarter. The result should have been a draw, although we were the better team for all but about 8 minutes.

[2] We seriously need a new coach. I'm sure we'll get one at season's end. We were out-coached when it mattered by half a Collingwood side. Why? We do not learn. If we can see the issues we have for more than a year, and none of them appear to have been addressed, you ask what the problem is.

[3] I am seriously disappointed with Talor Byrne tonight. He did some good thing, promising things, but when it mattered he really failed to stand up. Three shots at goal from no more than 40 m for 2 points, including the last, when it mattered, were critical.
Unfortunately, he wasn't alone. H kicked 1 goal 4 after dominating his position. That just isn't good enough for a professional key forward.
I don't want to dump on Matt Carroll, because he played a good game, but in the last quarter he had a couple of shots for nothing. He is normally a good kick, but he really missed when it was important.
Brodie Kemp: kicks the hard ones, but can't kick them from 20 out directly in front.

[4] I don't want to touch the Elijah Hollands matter. I've had anxiety issues: when it is really bad, you can't get out of bed, let alone play decent football. If he was that screwed up, we should never have played him. Flynn Young was available.

[5] Ollie Hollands is not a run-with player. he was given the job and came up really short. Daicos killed him when it mattered. His last quarter was like Walsh's 1st quarter last week: the difference.
We need very badly to recruit or develop a really athletic run-with player who can keep the opposition's best mids out of the game. At the moment, we don't have one.
Lord sometimes get the job, and he can do it well against anyone is similar speed. He wouldn't have been the match-up for Nick Daicos.
Losing Cincotta has really hurt us.

[6] I'm not sure if it all about our coaching, but our players can be seriously stupid sometimes.
(a) Lachie Cowan had some moment tonight that were just diabolical. Instead of taking the first option, he ran himself into trouble and screwed up.
(b) Adam Cerra wasn't far behind him. His decision making under pressure was dreadful, as was his kicking. He panicked, and it cost us goals.
(c) Kemp also stood out, fumbling marks he was taking early, falling over his own feet ... I just don't want to think about the rest.
(d) Although he wasn't bad tonight, H can be like that. He goes to ground too easily too often and his decision making can be dreadful. But tonight he was pretty good, but for his kicking. he needs to go back and get his kicking right before he loses us another game.

[7] Free kick to H, directly in front in the last quarter? Of course not. He's taken off with concussion and he doesn't get a too-high free.
I could go on about the umpires, but I've written enough about these guys. I'm over them. When we play well enough, we can go back to ignoring the stupid decisions they make.

[8] We probably lost the game by depending of Lewis Young as a 2nd ruck. I thought he wasn't bad, for the most part, but he was slaughtered in the ruck. It was the difference between winning and losing.

[9] I know Pitto works like a Trojan every week, but other rucks can lift in the last quarter and change the game. Pitto can't. When Steene got on top for those first 8 minutes, Collingwood got the ball out of middle quickly and we couldn't stop them.