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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Lods -

Quote from: Baggers – on

Perhaps an important question is how do people of low intellect, poor morality, zero emotional intelligence and seemingly deeply mired in anger/rage, such as PH (and Trump), get into these positions of influence in  the first place?

Not only do they negatively influence other discontented lost souls wherever they go, they grow anger, discontent, fear and ethical degradation. All they achieve is creating, merging and growing a movement of social decay... cheered on by emboldened malcontents.

It's probably a model that's been used since the beginning of time.

When things are bad (high prices, a breakdown in law and order) you find someone to blame...be it a religion, an ethnic group or a political opponent.
You create a 'baddie'.
All your woes are the responsibility of the 'baddies'.
They're not individuals...they're all the same....they all think the same.
There are no good people amongst the 'baddies'...they're not the same as us.
And if they don't want to be the same as 'us' ...they can go.

But in amongst that division you've created, you throw in some 'appealing' populist ideas that make it seem like you have the answers.
Of course, in most cases costings don't really matter.
You will probably never be in a position to have to implement them anyway, so you can promise the world...and you may gain enough support to be in a position to have some influence over policy making.

In the unlikely event that you ever are in a position to govern...you'll eventually get found out, and it will all come crashing down.
It will then be the responsibility of those that follow to put it all back together, but more often than not there will be some damage that is irreparable.

The thing is though...the opportunity for the rise of these people and parties depends on things being pretty crook to start off.
And that falls back on the governments in charge at the time.





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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: PaulP – on
Hanson's natural habitat is the gutter, and she is IMO, clearly trying to drag both parties down to her level, where she has a clear advantage. Disguising her crude attacks on Lambie, Wong and others as poor taste humour, freedom of speech etc is laughable.

Perhaps an important question is how do people of low intellect, poor morality, zero emotional intelligence and seemingly deeply mired in anger/rage, such as PH (and Trump), get into these positions of influence in  the first place?

Not only do they negatively influence other discontented lost souls wherever they go, they grow anger, discontent, fear and ethical degradation. All they achieve is creating, merging and growing a movement of social decay... cheered on by emboldened malcontents.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Despite all of this, my gut feel is that one nation is a lot bigger in the northern states.

I suspect you wouldn't see a lot of difference in One Nation 'electoral' support between Victoria, and a place like Queensland.
It'd be pretty much the same around that low 20% mark.

That doesn't mean Northerners aren't more conservative/right leaning in their political views.
But those views are probably addressed by more 'right leaning' LNP and Independent candidates in the North.

Why switch to ON when you already have some who basically shares your political and social views.

The 'electoral' problem One Nation faces is that their support is patchy.
It will be particularly strong in some areas....up over 30% perhaps.
But in  others they will struggle around 10-15%
That's why the main focus in Victoria probably won't be the overall level of support for ON, but how it translates into actual seats in the parliament.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by DJC -
Scotty Boland omitted; our best bowler and one of our better batsmen 🙄

I’d love to know what the selectors’ are thinking; it can’t be about rewarding good technique, form and effort.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by LP -
If only they'd replaced Head with a NSWelshman.

After winning the toss and bowling, Lyon on in the 11th over, is this proof Smith was doing a BumberT and Cummins a JTurd?

A Clayton's anyone?

Lunch, specialist commentary 3 NSWelshman, recommendations, NSWelshman what else!