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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Award 2026
Last post by crashlander -
AFL 2026 Rd 4:   Carlton vs North Melbourne
I've left the voting thread open for longer, because of the short week. But, losing turns voters off.

Trends:
[1]   There were 9 voters this round, which is not good. But then, it is hard to vote when we do so poorly and when the program is so disjointed and unsatisfactory.
 Please do voteplease do vote, win, lose or draw: it is something we appreciate and it makes our statistics a lot more reliable. And our statistics hold up pretty well when it comes to John Nicholls Medal night!

[2]   The rating was a 6.93, which represents a D, shows just how frustrated our voters are this week.

[3]   17 players managed a mention this week, which is better than last week. But the size of the vote shows how few played 4 quarters. Hard, I guess, when the whole team doesn't play 4 quarters!

[4]   The average vote this week was 23, which again shows significant dissatisfaction with the result and the effort after half time. Scores are around 30 when we win.

[5]   4 players managed 100 votes or more this week, which equals last week's effort.

[6] Elijah Hollands was both BOG this round with 258 votes. He was followed by Pittonet, McGovern and Ollie Hollands.

[7]   One player managed votes from everyone this week, Elijah Hollands. None of the others got close.

[8]   The distribution of votes this week suggested that we had a rounded performance across the board; everyone fell off after half time.

[9]   The Hollands brothers dominated. But most of our youngsters didn't make the contribution they've done in earlier games.

Votes:
Hollands, Elijah   258
Pittonet, Marc   162
McGovern, Mitchell   142
Hollands, Oliver   104
Kemp, Brodie   69
Newman, Nicholas  58
Ainsworth, Ben  50
Walsh, Sam   31
Weitering, Jacob  31
Cripps, Patrick   31
Boyd, Jordan   27
Hewett, George  23
Cowan, Lachlan  23
Cerra, Adam  12
Florent, Oliver  8
Evans, Francis  8
Smith, Jagga  4


Progressive Voting:
Walsh, Sam  731
Pittonet, Marc  477
Smith, Jagga  398
Hollands, Elijah  382
Mitch McGovern  341
Weitering, Jacob  339
Patrick Cripps  259
Hollands. Ollie   166
Lord, Cooper  144
William, Zac  118
Ainsworth, Ben  115
Matthew Carroll 97
Kemp, Brodie  90
Hewett, George  75
Florent, Oliver  61
Young, Lewis  55
Newman, Nic  58
Dean, Harry  51
Byrne, Talor  34
Boyd, Jordan   27
Harry McKay  23
Cowan, Lachie  24
Cerra, Adam  12
Will Hayward  8
Evans, Francis  8

Sam Walsh is the early leader, ahead of Marc Pottonet! Considering that we haven't really won the ruck much, that says a lot. Jagga Smith is 3rd.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Milhanna13 – on
The major culprit for the issues in the middle, when Cripps was off, were the umpires - in my opinion!!    2nd quarter we gave up 6 centre clearances in a row,  and 4 of them were free kicks (all of which were dubious).  wouldnt have matterred if diesel, kouta and ratts were in there, we would have struggled
Interesting, I've heard that some past players(not Carlton) were talking along similar lines on one of the post game streams, not questioning the decisions because that happens, but questioning how they all seemed go one way!

For me that is confirmation of bias which I've talked about on other threads, it happens because umpires are human and they subconsciously anticipate Carlton having "a moment". It's not deliberate but an effect of having an expectation.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by Milhanna13 -
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: Baggers – on
Others being asked to develop their leadership skills? Weaning off Crippa?

Agreed, and possibly an opportunity to send a message.

The media will claim it was sending a message to Cripps on the bench, because there hides the controversy and the clicks.

But for me it was more than likely a message from the coach to the blokes in the centre square, and perhaps in conjunction Hewett's absence is more about a lack of fault rather than disciplining or punishment.

The coach showed them what it's like when you haven't got someone sacrificing for your benefit! So I'd be having a close look at the replay to see who was the middle in their absence! Was there a Judas?

The major culprit for the issues in the middle, when Cripps was off, were the umpires - in my opinion!!    2nd quarter we gave up 6 centre clearances in a row,  and 4 of them were free kicks (all of which were dubious).  wouldnt have matterred if diesel, kouta and ratts were in there, we would have struggled
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The Sports Desk / Re: Track and Field
Last post by Lods -
I'm not sure what's gone on in that 200m race but just about everyone's run a PB by a couple of tenths.
Murphy's 19.88 was a pb by about 6/10ths
I don't think anyone had him pegged as a sub 20 runner.
Kennedy's in superb form and no doubt would have broken 20 as well but he pulled up sore from the 100m
That tailwind must have chased them around the bend. ???  ???

Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear a bit more about this.
The run is a legitimate time and the wind gauge people would be proficient but..

Kennedy 9.96 x 2
Gout 19.67
Murphy 19.88.

No one would have predicted those times being legally run before the race.
It's extraordinary.
I don't think it's a case of 'The Games' scenario where the track was a metre short. :D  :D
But the track has been upgraded and you wonder whether that's giving some assistance above a legitimate level may be investigated.

It will be interesting to see if the records are ratified.

Countering that is the fact that the Women's times in the 100 and 200 were average so maybe the guys just did have a day out.

I had a message from a friend who said there was a strong wind around the bend. Wind readings are only taken in the straight which is one of the anomalys of 200 metres running


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The Sports Desk / Re: Track and Field
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: DJC – on
Some great efforts by the sprinters but it’s very poor that Jess Hull doesn’t get to defend her title.

There should be a process to address the unfair elimination of top performing athletes.

She did win the 5000 today in a pretty emphatic manner.
The talk is that they will look at an alternative selection method for this event in terms of the Comm games.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Track and Field
Last post by DJC -
Some great efforts by the sprinters but it’s very poor that Jess Hull doesn’t get to defend her title.

There should be a process to address the unfair elimination of top performing athletes.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 5 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
He's the exact same. Great at the ruck contest then terrible after.

Well if there is only 8 people 'better' than him and he's the exact same, then plenty owe him an apology.

I suspect that his work up forward has been the difference between this year and others.

He set himself a pre-season goal to kick 20 goals for the year...he's on track so far.