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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by laj -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: laj – on
Voss showed he hadn't and get left behind with an outdated game plan. Unlike others, I think our list isn't too bad but not the right person to to drive it. For years our attitude hasn't been consistently good, generally poor. We can tend to give up pretty easily. When all that happens people everywhere tend to revert to "poor list" when it's not always the case. We've generally been a bad club inside and out for 25 years, bar some odd years, especially under Ratten. Doesn't matter how good your list is, that situation means you do no good.

We started with a rebuild then they gave us Bolton, Teague and Voss to take charge of it. A Hardwick-type may have been different. He got 2 sides with ordinary attitudes too fire brilliantly.
Skill level has always been an issue and the brand we play is terrible to watch.
The gap is getting wider between the best and worst teams imo in terms of quality of football being played.
Skills level can be a result of attitude too. Watching GWS tonight, who usually use it well, but tonight awful and dysfunctional.  Reflects how they are switched on. I'm sure most of our blokes at least don't come to the club as poor users but we seem to turn into that way. It's like catching a virus, except they catch the poor user syndrome. Remember in 2023. We went from poor users to good users in a matter of a week after the Ed Curnow camp. That was attitude.

Right now our brand of footy is horrible. The Richmond game made my eyes bleed watching it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: laj – on
Voss showed he hadn't and get left behind with an outdated game plan. Unlike others, I think our list isn't too bad but not the right person to to drive it. For years our attitude hasn't been consistently good, generally poor. We can tend to give up pretty easily. When all that happens people everywhere tend to revert to "poor list" when it's not always the case. We've generally been a bad club inside and out for 25 years, bar some odd years, especially under Ratten. Doesn't matter how good your list is, that situation means you do no good.

We started with a rebuild then they gave us Bolton, Teague and Voss to take charge of it. A Hardwick-type may have been different. He got 2 sides with ordinary attitudes too fire brilliantly.
Skill level has always been an issue and the brand we play is terrible to watch.
The gap is getting wider between the best and worst teams imo in terms of quality of football being played.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by laj -
Voss showed he hadn't and get left behind with an outdated game plan. Unlike others, I think our list isn't too bad but not the right person to to drive it. For years our attitude hasn't been consistently good, generally poor. We can tend to give up pretty easily. When all that happens people everywhere tend to revert to "poor list" when it's not always the case. We've generally been a bad club inside and out for 25 years, bar some odd years, especially under Ratten. Doesn't matter how good your list is, that situation means you do no good.

We started with a rebuild then they gave us Bolton, Teague and Voss to take charge of it. A Hardwick-type may have been different. He got 2 sides with ordinary attitudes too fire brilliantly.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Professer E – on
Touhy left for money, he wasn't traded.

I reckon most of those who left went for reason other than PP was a crap place to be. Exceptions to this were clearly Henderson + Touhy, who both couldn't F off fast enough. Waite hated the coach.

I don't want a thread to start on this, it digging up an old corpse.  It's done, let's move on.
Touhy hated Boltons guts, he said as in a recent interview (maybe even a book?).
He couldnt get out fast enough because of that failed relationship.