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The Sports Desk / Re: Formula 1
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Current standings after 23 of 24 rounds
408 - Lando Norris - 7 wins
396 - Max Verstappen - 7 wins
392 - Oscar Piastri- 7 wins

How NORRIS (McLaren) can win the title
He finishes anywhere in the top 3
He finishes 4th or 5th, Verstappen doesn’t win
He finishes 6th or 7th, both Verstappen and Piastri don’t win
He finishes 8th, Verstappen is 3rd or worse, Piastri doesn’t win
He finishes 9th, Verstappen is 4th or worse, Piastri doesn’t win
He finishes 10th, Verstappen is 4th or worse, Piastri is 3rd or worse

How VERSTAPPEN (Red Bull) can win the title
He wins in Abu Dhabi, Norris is 4th or worse
He finishes 2nd, Norris is 8th or worse, Piastri doesn’t win
He finished 3rd, Norris is 9th or worse Piastri doesn’t win

How PIASTRI (McLaren) can win the title
He wins in Abu Dhabi, Norris is 6th or worse
He finishes 2nd, Norris is 10th or worse, Verstappen is 4th or worse

Unfortunately we have to get used to the fact that Norris the prat will be WC given how well McLaren have rogered Piastri. Max is a chance but alot has to go right for him.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Forwards-How do we fit them all in.
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Saad    Weeters  Cowan
Newy    Haynes   Dean
Cez        Crippa     Cottrell
Ainsworth  Gov    Hayward
Zac W      H          Motlop
Pitto     Hewitt      Walsh

int from :  Skull,  Lord,  Frankie, Acres, Moir,  OHollands,  EHollands, Florent, Caroll, Jaga, Kemp, LYoung  (12 players with a decent claim on the final 5 spots)

That leaves - Boyd, Fogarty, Chesser, Wilson, Campo x2, Ison, Reidy, FYoung, Charleston as 10 capable players that are very much depth

Inj - OFarrell


The depth looks healthier than in a long while,  but the starting 18 is definitely lower on "stars" than it was 12 months ago.

Cripps, Mackay, Weiters, Hewett, Walsh, plenty of stars in my opinion, need the soldiers to lift and support adequately and in unison. As NFL legendary coach Bill Belichick's motto states, "Do Your Job".
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Forwards-How do we fit them all in.
Last post by Milhanna13 -
Saad    Weeters  Cowan
Newy    Haynes   Dean
Cez        Crippa     Cottrell
Ainsworth  Gov    Hayward
Zac W      H          Motlop
Pitto     Hewitt      Walsh

int from :  Skull,  Lord,  Frankie, Acres, Moir,  OHollands,  EHollands, Florent, Caroll, Jaga, Kemp, LYoung  (12 players with a decent claim on the final 5 spots)

That leaves - Boyd, Fogarty, Chesser, Wilson, Campo x2, Ison, Reidy, FYoung, Charleston as 10 capable players that are very much depth

Inj - OFarrell


The depth looks healthier than in a long while,  but the starting 18 is definitely lower on "stars" than it was 12 months ago.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by DJC -
Our NGA is part of our list management strategy.  The fact that we drafted Ison is evidence that our NGA is finally working.

Harry Dean’s development is also a product of our NGA and he’s ready to go as a result.  The downside is that we were forced to use more points than if he’d had no connection to the club.  Cody Walker is going through a similar experience that should make for a seamless transition from under 18s to AFL.

We were fortunate that Ison drifted and we were able to draft Byrne as well as shoring up our points for the 2026 draft … but you make your own luck by exhaustive scenario planning.

Our list management moved out of the dark ages with SOS’s appointment.  Austin and Agresta have pushed its evolution forward and we’re at least the equal of the best in the business now.  Of course, that doesn’t mean an instant improvement in our on field fortunes as sustainable list development takes time.  The better performing teams have developing players waiting in the wings and can maintain their ladder positions through seamless replacement of departing players.  We’re finally getting to that point.

In previous years we’ve tended to bring in a couple of players in the twilight of their careers as insurance or to plug gaps.  With the exception of Nick Haynes, a recruitment masterstroke, all of our incoming players are now at the beginning or the peak of their careers.

While I do think that size matters, it’s not something worth obsessing over.





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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
The problem, is Kruds you dump anyone under 190cm into the small forward label.

Variety is the spice of life,  and those players all bring different strengths to the party.
Yep, They all have their weaknesses too
But quite a few of them are in our best 23.
What they do is give us depth... and options to structure up in a number of different ways.
You keep saying your not being negative, but before I even read your first response to the video of draft night I knew that even if you gave them some faint praise you'd have a sting in the tail.

Quite a few are in our best 23? I would hope so, they take up 1/4 of our list.

All players bring different strengths, sure. We can't play them all though.
I keep hearing these players can play wing or midfield, none of them have made the best 23 (so far) in the midfield yet.....and that doesn't include the mid/half back types vying for the same positions like Campox2, hollands, charleson, now chesser, florent etc.

Yes those players give us depth and ability to structure up in a different way.
We already had depth and ability to structure up in a different way.
We don't have depth, or ability to structure up a different way in other areas though.


I'd already given my response to our drafting previously, you want me to change that because of a video? I just echoed what i said previously. They executed their plan, kudos. I still think its the wrong plan though. A feel good video is suposed to make me change my mind?

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Lods -
The problem, is Kruds you dump anyone under 190cm into the small forward label.

Variety is the spice of life,  and those players all bring different strengths to the party.
Yep, They all have their weaknesses too
But quite a few of them are in our best 23.
What they do is give us depth... and options to structure up in a number of different ways.
You keep saying your not being negative, but before I even read your first response to the video of draft night I knew that even if you gave them some faint praise you'd have a sting in the tail.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
You mean the injury hit 2024 and the injury/off field disaster of 2025
Jagga Smith, Harry O'Farrell, the Camporeale boys.
Dean and Ison this year, and loading up for Cody Walker next year.
I'm pretty happy with the last couple of years of recruitment.

Campo boys are good because they are father/sons.
Similarly with Dean and Ison. We took them because they were ours.
Jagga  is fine, but i would've preferred a different midfielder and a KPP instead of the trading up we did.
HOF is fine
No mention of anyone else? Why?
The 6 small(er) forwards we've taken over that period paint a different picture.

Fantasia, Evans, White, Young, Ainsworth and Byrne....when we already had Williams, Cottrell, Fogarty, Motlop, Durdin, E.Hollands, Moir to do a similar role.

Variety is the spice of life.
Variety builds a successful team.
We are not successful.
We've gone backwards since we made the prelim......and lets not forget how many injuries we had in that prelim year as well.