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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Lods -
Just a bit of ruck trivia.

When we played Collingwood earlier in the year Pittonet and Cameron split the hitouts 20 a piece.
Hit outs to advantage were 5-2 in favour of Pittonet.

Oscar Steene (15- HTA 6 )and Lewis Young (7 -HTA 3) also did  bit of ruck work.
So all up it was Collingwood 35 -HTA 8 v Carlton 27-HTA 8

Last night they were 39-18 in Cameron's favour but Reidy won the HTA 8 to 5
Mc Stay also had 10-HTA 1 but no other Carlton player registered  a hit out
So 49-18 in terms of first hands but 8-6 our way in terms of HTAs

But in terms of
Clearances...41-39 our way
Centre Clearances...16-11 our way
Stoppage Clearances 28-25 their way.

All pretty even.

Cameron had 18 disposals to Reidy's 16
Cameron took 3 marks Reidy 0
Cameron made 2 tackles Reidy 6
Cameron had 8 clearances to Reidy's 6
Both had 4 inside 50s
Reidy had 4 centre clearances to Cameron's 2
Cameron had 18 contested possessions to Reidy's 12
...so a bit for each of them in  those stats...

The question from all that is.... was Reidy all that bad or have we concentrated too much on 'first hands' on the ball.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by shawny -
Having to play 1 key player down for most of the night and then 2 keys down after half time made things tough but we are our own worst enemies. Sub standard kicking for goal is not bad luck its bad skills and they are clean when it matters are we are not.

Weitering was sadly missed last night. needed a big stat a home general as the kids looked undersized and rattled at times in front of 80k 

Kemp was atrocious. Not making the distance from 40 is criminal and his misses are not even close - off the boat they are pure hacks. Cant have a key forward that unreliable getting a game. Prefer Ison or Moir. Hes missed are so deflating for the team and fans.

Desparate for a competitive ruckman and regardless how many we have on the list we dont have one that is suitable so it needs to be a addressed in the offseason.

Give the campo boys and Moir a game. they will be keen to make something of the season if they get a chance now.

Overall we probably could but i wont be using injuries as excuses as they also had key players out - they are simply better drilled and much better skilled in the big moments.

On to next week.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Professer E -
No plan to deal with Daicos' game but we probably don't have that kind of player on the list.  It craps me no end to be beaten by what you already know.

I remember talking about Membrey in his draft year....we're all looking for the next Carey when a bloke that kicks 35 every year at 75% goes begging, and there are a lot of those types out there but this club doesn't even look.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by RiverRat -
Quote from: crashlander – on
Champion rucks do not always get premierships, but uncompetitive rucks lose games.[/color][/b]
For the second week in a row, we were obliterated in the ruck. Reidy did better than Riley did, but not good enough to give our mids any chance of getting the ball into our forward line quickly.

Reidy is a one-trick pony and it's not a particularly effective trick. 

He seems to have some agility and mobility but in nearly every ruck contest his initial tactic is to grab or grapple with his opponent and it is a wonder that he is not penalized more than he is for interference.   The current ruck rules are a bigger disadvantage for him than for Pitto.

And he is even less effective in centre circle contests; I think I would prefer Riley in that area.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Baggers – on

Not the end of the world. As my father used to say, "Fools and children should not asses outcomes on jobs half done." Clearly the club is looking at the big picture and what we need for a strong 2027 and beyond. Good.


Great saying. I think the biggest problem we have, which is not easy to fix quickly with list changes, is our inability to to cope with pressure. We saw two teams this morning play off in the World Cup 3rd place game, a nothing game with zero pressure. Lots of goals, free flowing end to end stuff. Two teams who had an almighty choke when pressure came (England being renowned for it, Bosnich commented on it the other day on SEN that it's in their psyche). Thats us at the minute, no pressure, no worries. When something becomes meaningful and important, we go to water (missed field kicks, handballs, shots for goal, fumbles, dropped marks etc). Biggest problem with our club, hardest to fix in my opinion.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 19 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
Loved Frase's media conference. Candid & realistic. And I don't think he was a happy camper; clearly not impressed with features of our game.

Although aiming and wanting to make the 10 is a good goal, this shouldn't be done at the expense of things Josh mentioned - specifically having a strong look at the list and changing and improving other areas of our game; to be better than we were when he took the reins by season's end.

We were hampered by losing H. We not only lost a key forward target but also a good 2nd ruck and around the ground help. Then losing an in form Cez compounded the issue. Then failure to adapt and adjust really showed up our weaknesses and areas of need, both structure and personnel wise. In many respects we made Rottingwood's job of winning... easier.

Not the end of the world. As my father used to say, "Fools and children should not asses outcomes on jobs half done." Clearly the club is looking at the big picture and what we need for a strong 2027 and beyond. Good.