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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Lods -
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No, it means nothing at this stage of the year.

And is definitely not comparable to previous years

Different rules
Different opposition

We win a couple of games by 40-50 points at this tme of the year and you shoot past the 100%
Do that at the end of the year with bigger point totals and it doesn't cause the same fluctuations.

Watch Gold Coast's percentage drop, even if they keep winning.

I understand how % works Lods.

After what round does it suddenly start to matter? We can reconvene then if you'd like. I'm interested to see what your next excuse will be. I must say the head in the sand defence was not what i was expecting this time around, so next time will also be a surprise.

Do you understand it?
We often see teams with percentages of well over 150% in the early rounds of a season....often greater.
We rarely see teams with those figures at the end of the season.
A team could win by 100 points in the first game and lose the next four by close margins and still have a percentage over 100%

Picking a point where it evens out is not an exact science.

Our percentage last year after 4 games was 81.2%
Our percentage last year after 5 games was 103.6%
That's the effect of a 70 point winover West Coast.
A 20+% point rise

A 70 point win in round 22 would only move the dial around 4-5%
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -
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It's not semantics, it's fact.  Australians have never owned other people,

Does the government count as 'Australians'?
They are in charge of prisons.
Are people in prison free?
Are people in prison forced into labour with repercussions if they do not?

Prisoners are incarcerated under our judicial system and they're not owned by the government.  Prisoners are paid between $30 and $70 for a 30 hour week.  Advocates maintain that's "slave labour" but with their board, lodging, education and training costing around $3,000 a week, it's not a bad deal.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods – on
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No....its not meaningless. It very much has meaning and is displaying our form accurately.
Form is fleeting (we hope) and % can and will change throughout the year.

However, nobody in their right mind would say Gold Coast are struggling.
Nor would they say we are flying.
So again, certainly not meaningless.

No, it means nothing at this stage of the year.

And is definitely not comparable to previous years

Different rules
Different opposition

We win a couple of games by 40-50 points at this tme of the year and you shoot past the 100%
Do that at the end of the year with bigger point totals and it doesn't cause the same fluctuations.

Watch Gold Coast's percentage drop, even if they keep winning.

I understand how % works Lods.

After what round does it suddenly start to matter? We can reconvene then if you'd like. I'm interested to see what your next excuse will be. I must say the head in the sand defence was not what i was expecting this time around, so next time will also be a surprise.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by kruddler -
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Ah I see, we argued an out on a different definition of slavery to argue we never had slavery even though the evidence runs contrary to that.

So we can argue semantics, you are right, and I am wrong, we never participated in slavery despite the evidence showing otherwise.  Is that it?

It's not semantics, it's fact.  Australians have never owned other people,

Does the government count as 'Australians'?
They are in charge of prisons.
Are people in prison free?
Are people in prison forced into labour with repercussions if they do not?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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Percentage is meaningless after three games.
A heavy loss or a big win can change  percentage from a big positive to a big negative in one game.

Do you think Gold Coast will have a percentage of 191% at the end of the year?
Percentages won't settle as an indicator until well into the season.

No....its not meaningless. It very much has meaning and is displaying our form accurately.
Form is fleeting (we hope) and % can and will change throughout the year.

However, nobody in their right mind would say Gold Coast are struggling.
Nor would they say we are flying.
So again, certainly not meaningless.

No, it means nothing at this stage of the year.

And is definitely not comparable to previous years

Different rules
Different opposition

We win a couple of games by 40-50 points at this tme of the year and you shoot past the 100%
Do that at the end of the year with bigger point totals and it doesn't cause the same fluctuations.

Watch Gold Coast's percentage drop, even if they keep winning.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Ah I see, we argued an out on a different definition of slavery to argue we never had slavery even though the evidence runs contrary to that.

So we can argue semantics, you are right, and I am wrong, we never participated in slavery despite the evidence showing otherwise.  Is that it?

It's not semantics, it's fact.  Australians have never owned other people,

Some of the old ladies I worked with early in my career were trained as domestic servants on the missions and were employed on pastoral stations - employed being the operative word.  They were paid - not very much - and some of them were treated very badly - but they were paid and could leave if they wanted to. 

I'm not arguing that Indigenous Australians and Melanesian indentured labourers weren't treated badly, far from it, but they weren't owned, bought and sold or considered to be property.

Modern slavery may take in slavery-like offences, such as forced labour, debt bondage and human trafficking, as I mentioned previously.   However, Australia is still bound by the 1926 International Convention to Suppress the Slave Trade and Slavery and its definition of slavery.