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The Sports Desk / Re: Formula 1
Last post by kruddler -After 1 corner, all that went out the window, but at least he started, and at least he finished.
After 1 corner, all that went out the window, but at least he started, and at least he finished.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 2 2026 Carlton vs Williamstown
Last post by Gointocarlton -It has been an embarrassing day for Carlton, but it certainly didn't start the way it should have.
Carlton 12 - 7 - 79
Williamstown 12 - 12 - 84
[1] We haven't beaten Williamstown yet in this iteration of our 2nds. That is simply unacceptable! Granted that our VFL program has been turned on its head, with Power replaced by Truslove (and most of the other coaches as well), but with so many AFL LISTED PLAYERS, we should not be losing to VFL clubs!
[2] To start so poorly is unprofessional, especially as we don't run out games.
[3] To have Mirkov beat Reidy in the ruck is awful. For all his limitations, Mirkov gave his mids first look. That bodes terribly for Reidy. And it bodes terribly for Carlton as a team, as we badly needed Reidy to step up.
The positive was Reidy's work around the ground: 20 disposals is a positive. But it doesn't give our mids the service they need.
[4] Williamstown had the 3 top possession getters on the ground: FitzGerald, Hall-Kahan & Toner. And yet, did we have anyone run with them?
Our lack of run-with players is terribly obvious in the seniors, but it seems that there is nobody doing the job in the VFL.
[5] Nick Haynes: 13 marks. Nobody else got close to that. If he has done his hamstring, then we've lost something.
[6] Nic Newman: I was hoping that we wouldn't need Nic much any longer, but he does something few of our defenders do, he wins one on one possessions. His lack of pace might be an issue, but there is still a place for him in the seniors.
[7] Other than Flynn Young, who kicks our goals?
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The Sports Desk / Re: Formula 1
Last post by LP -Mercedes are fast and top of the game (for now) strategy wise.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
Proper Preperation Prevents Poor Performance
Players leave, sure.....you can't throw up your hands and say there is no way we could've seen that coming.....and a have a year at the bottom as a result.
I've been stressing the importance for years, and been mocked repeatedly for it.
Yet here we are.
There will always be a player that want out.
There will always be a player who misses a year through injury.
There will always be an older player who falls off a cliff performance wise.
These are NOT valid excuses to fail.
You PLAN for these things in advance.....like i was suggesting.
We didn't.
They are to blame.
Regardless of any relationships with the coach, recruiters have failed in this area.
I've said it many times.
Individually, every decision the recruiters have made, you can find make a case for. (whether it works out or not is another story)
However, you are not picking a group of individuals. You are picking a complete list, with allowances to cover for injuries etc. This is the area we have failed in.
Do we not think that Voss has had mutiple ongoing discussions with his list manager over the years with regards to the nature of the game style we play and the type of players required.
Do they just cover their faces when they pass each other in the corridors and walk on.
If we're that dysfunctional that there is not a collaborative approach then we probably deserve to be in the position we currently sit in.
This may be Austin's list but Voss would have had a big input.
Maybe Vossy does and he gets fed the same thing they feed us every year.
"There was nobody available at our pick"
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Proper Preperation Prevents Poor Performance
Players leave, sure.....you can't throw up your hands and say there is no way we could've seen that coming.....and a have a year at the bottom as a result.
I've been stressing the importance for years, and been mocked repeatedly for it.
Yet here we are.
There will always be a player that want out.
There will always be a player who misses a year through injury.
There will always be an older player who falls off a cliff performance wise.
These are NOT valid excuses to fail.
You PLAN for these things in advance.....like i was suggesting.
We didn't.
They are to blame.
Regardless of any relationships with the coach, recruiters have failed in this area.
I've said it many times.
Individually, every decision the recruiters have made, you can find make a case for. (whether it works out or not is another story)
However, you are not picking a group of individuals. You are picking a complete list, with allowances to cover for injuries etc. This is the area we have failed in.
Do we not think that Voss has had mutiple ongoing discussions with his list manager over the years with regards to the nature of the game style we play and the type of players required.
Do they just cover their faces when they pass each other in the corridors and walk on.
If we're that dysfunctional that there is not a collaborative approach then we probably deserve to be in the position we currently sit in.
This may be Austin's list but Voss would have had a big input.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Lods -
You can make a case for faults in our recruiting but Silvagni, Curnow and TDK all left becasue they wanted to go.
That's not setting Voss up to fail.
In fact there is some suggestion that some of those departing were less than enamoured with Voss's approach.
DeKoning left for ridiculous money...we were bever going to match that.
Proper Preperation Prevents Poor Performance
Players leave, sure.....you can't throw up your hands and say there is no way we could've seen that coming.....and a have a year at the bottom as a result.
I've been stressing the importance for years, and been mocked repeatedly for it.
Yet here we are.
There will always be a player that want out.
There will always be a player who misses a year through injury.
There will always be an older player who falls off a cliff performance wise.
These are NOT valid excuses to fail.
You PLAN for these things in advance.....like i was suggesting.
We didn't.
They are to blame.
Regardless of any relationships with the coach, recruiters have failed in this area.
I've said it many times.
Individually, every decision the recruiters have made, you can find make a case for. (whether it works out or not is another story)
However, you are not picking a group of individuals. You are picking a complete list, with allowances to cover for injuries etc. This is the area we have failed in.
Do we not think that Voss has had mutiple ongoing discussions with his list manager over the years with regards to the nature of the game style we play and the type of players required.
Do they just cover their faces when they pass each other in the corridors and walk on.
If we're that dysfunctional that there is not a collaborative approach then we probably deserve to be in the position we currently sit in.
This may be Austin's list but Voss would have had a big input.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Rd 2 2026 Carlton vs Williamstown
Last post by crashlander -Carlton 12 - 7 - 79
Williamstown 12 - 12 - 84
[1] We haven't beaten Williamstown yet in this iteration of our 2nds. That is simply unacceptable! Granted that our VFL program has been turned on its head, with Power replaced by Truslove (and most of the other coaches as well), but with so many AFL LISTED PLAYERS, we should not be losing to VFL clubs!
[2] To start so poorly is unprofessional, especially as we don't run out games.
[3] To have Mirkov beat Reidy in the ruck is awful. For all his limitations, Mirkov gave his mids first look. That bodes terribly for Reidy. And it bodes terribly for Carlton as a team, as we badly needed Reidy to step up.
The positive was Reidy's work around the ground: 20 disposals is a positive. But it doesn't give our mids the service they need.
[4] Williamstown had the 3 top possession getters on the ground: FitzGerald, Hall-Kahan & Toner. And yet, did we have anyone run with them?
Our lack of run-with players is terribly obvious in the seniors, but it seems that there is nobody doing the job in the VFL.
[5] Nick Haynes: 13 marks. Nobody else got close to that. If he has done his hamstring, then we've lost something.
[6] Nic Newman: I was hoping that we wouldn't need Nic much any longer, but he does something few of our defenders do, he wins one on one possessions. His lack of pace might be an issue, but there is still a place for him in the seniors.
[7] Other than Flynn Young, who kicks our goals?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -The Frankie Evans free kick against had me stuffed. The first contact on him when he had the ball was a swinging arm to his head, yet its holding the ball.......goal. WTF?
There was a couple more which i cannot recall with similar results, and i can't remember any going the other way to help us.
When it rains it pours.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -Agree re Young thought he was quite good.
There is something pretty rank if you are known to capitulate in the third, to not do everything in your power to ensure it does not happen! If theres a system set up fitness wise to help you run out the fourth by taking your foot completely off in the third; then thst needs to change. I keep reading from the club that they know theres an issue there. I mean Doc said it out loud weeks ago (which imo was unhelpful by him)… but 3 weeks on this is still the problem. Seriously what is going on.
It is all well and good to say players have left or so and so is injured but ffs do something to change it happening time and again! It really cannot be that hard to change whatever youre doing that is contributing to that happening!
On the train ride on the way home with my 10yo he was saying that all we need to do is fix the dropoffs after half time. I said its more common than you think.
I asked him to pick a number between 1 and 23 and showed him the score worm for the associated round last year.
I went through 6 random numbers before i found one that bucked the trend, and it was a game against either North or West Coast who i also pointed are the worst performed teams in years.
Every man and his dog sees what the problem is, yet not a damn thing has happened to fix it.
It can't be that bl00dy hard....can it?
From next week, just tell players that we are 'holding the ball up' until half time. THEN with all the energy we've saved, have the 2nd half we need.
Try something as drastic as that to buck the trend, because whatever is being said/done, isn't getting through.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by crashlander -I've jumped off the Voss train, it has derailed.Kemp was lamentable - even less effort than Charlie used to provide.
Cripps is not leading.
McKay and Kemp are soft as butter in a pack or one on one.
And Young can bugger off to Auskick where he can learn a few skills.
McKay was as usual - not good enough.
Young had his usual (2 or 3) panic attacks but I thought he was reasonably effective as a defender and his ruckwork in defence allowed Pitto to stay with Gawn; a tactic that seemed to work for at least half a game.