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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Thryleon -
Without the political hyperbole, Im amazed at the sheer number of innocent people who wind up in a confrontation with law enforcement and somehow end up losing their lives.  Personally, I assume these people are technically not doing the right thing, and have put themselves in a situation where they are drawing this reaction.  It might come across as "victim shaming/blaming" but im fairly confident no one set out to deliberately kill someone at the start of that process, its where it ended after the confrontation.

Either the cops there are OTT, or these innocent people are not so innocent and there is scope for a middle ground there, because not all incidents (and officers) would be the same.

Before we worry too much about the number of incidents, this is data without context.  The USA is a population of what, 350 million?

We get a disproportionate access to their media over any other nation so we hear more about their dirty laundry than most other countries, and you need to put these incidents in rates of incident per capita to make a meaningful comparison to anywhere else in the world aside from maybe the UK which comes in at an estimated 70 million odd, so 1/5th the size. 

Is their rate of incident really that much higher?

Im not wedded to an outcome there, just challenging people to think more critically about these things.  Two things can be true at the same time here too.  This officer may very well have murdered in cold blood, and this may not speak for anything but an officer who needs to be stood down.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by PaulP -
America's record for killings by cops or other law enforcement officials is dismal, one of the world's worst, keeping company with Donny's much beloved "s h i t hole" countries.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by Gointocarlton -
As a person who know SFA about cricket, I have always wondered why a T20 or One Day Style of go the tonk is never applied in Test cricket. Or why players who are guns (bowling and batting) in the short forms are no good in the longer form. I guess the English team demonstrated it but I still cant work out the "differences" in skill set. Can the aficionados (Proff or EB) provide some simple dot points for me explaining or pin pointing the nuances (apart from the obvious length of the games) of Test and Short form Cricket.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by madbluboy -
Quote from: Lods – on
There is probably no greater example of the deep divisions in American society today than the reaction to the killing of the woman by the ICE agent  yesterday.
People watching the exact same footage are seeing completely different things depending on their political leanings.

It's the world we live in.

Clearly the ICE agent executed her.

If it was a couple of years ago and it was a neo nazi MAGA right winger killed the same people protesting would be defending the shooting.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Lods -
There is probably no greater example of the deep divisions in American society today than the reaction to the killing of the woman by the ICE agent  yesterday.
People watching the exact same footage are seeing completely different things depending on their political leanings.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by Blue Moon -
I have two alternate sides. The 24 and overs:
Florent Weitering Haynes
Saad L.Young Newman
Acres Cripps Cottrell
Williams Kemp Hayward
McGovern McKay Ainsworth
Pittonett Hewitt Walsh
Cerra Fogarty Reidy Boyd Evans/F.Young
The 24 and unders:
Wilson O'Farrell Duffy
Cowan Dean Carroll
Chesser O.Hollands F.Young
Evans Kemp Motlop
Byrne Moir Ison
O'Keeffe Lord Smith
B.Camporeale L.Camporeale Monahan Charleson E.Hollands/Wilson
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: DJC – on
I expect Dean to debut in opening round, and he may well start on the bench, but he's not going to stay there; we no longer have 19th and 20th men Lods  ;D  

Dean probably won't have Weitering or Young game time from the get go and I suspect that he won't be spending a lot of time playing on Amartey or Curnow. 

You know what I meant :P
He won't be thrown straight to the wolves.
He'll be eased into the contest gradually.
If he lights it up early he may get a fair amount of game time.

But that's just my guess and when and how he's played will be up to the coaches.
It wouldn't actually surprise to see him start forward. ;)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: Lods – on
We're talking about the opening round.
And it's clear we do have options.
The question is, will Dean play from the get-go or will the Key backs be a Weitering/ Young or Weitering /Haynes combination.

I suspect Dean will be in the side but on the bench.

I still have hopes for Lewis Young in 2026
And while he may not be a long term prospect...
He's very much a confidence player.
He played the best quarter of football of any Carlton player I saw in the VFL last year before he was injured.
He's proven in the past he can handle the position.
He was in everybody's best 23 a few years back.
It will be intersting to see if he's in the side for the opening round.

Weitering had a lighter workload than normal in our win over Essendon and only spent 94% of the game on the ground.  Lewis Young had 96% game time and, at the other end of the ground, McKay had 94% game time.  Interestingly, De Koning only spent 74% of the game on the ground.

Before his injury, Harry O'Farrell's game time was in the 90% range.

I expect Dean to debut in opening round, and he may well start on the bench, but he's not going to stay there; we no longer have 19th and 20th men Lods  ;D  

Dean probably won't have Weitering or Young game time from the get go and I suspect that he won't be spending a lot of time playing on Amartey or Curnow.  I think that he will be used initially as an intercept marking defender with Weiters and Young as the KPDs but he will take his turn on whoever Sydney uses as KPFs.  Dean may well take over a KPD mantle as the season progresses but he would be equally at home as an intercept defender and ball distributor.