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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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My contention is that we prioritised bringing in young talent in order to pass the proverbial baton from the older guard that might have won us something, in an effort to build a younger layer to the team and prevent us from bottoming out.  That group will come good about the time tassie joins (or not).

It puts our recruiting in a different perspective and thats all im aiming for.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1457509/list-analysis-where-your-club-ranks-for-age-and-experience
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RANKING FOR 2026...
Average age: 24.9 (sixth oldest)
Average games: 79.3 (fifth most experienced)
Most games: Nick Haynes (234)
Players with 100-plus games: 15
Players with less than 50 games: 22

        Average age of list at Opening Round, 2026   Ranking at OR, 2025
1   Collingwood   25.6   Oldest
2   Melbourne   25.4   Equal fifth oldest
=3   Brisbane   25.3   Second oldest
=3   Geelong   25.3   Fourth oldest
5   Sydney   25   Equal fifth oldest
6   Carlton   24.9   Eighth oldest
7   Western Bulldogs   24.8   Third oldest
8   Adelaide   24.7   Seventh oldest
9   Port Adelaide   24.4   12th oldest
=10   Fremantle   24.3   11th oldest
=10   Greater Western Sydney   24.3   13th oldest
=10   Hawthorn   24.3   10th oldest
13   St Kilda   24.2   Equal 14th oldest
=14   Gold Coast   24.1   Ninth oldest
=14   North Melbourne   24.1   18th oldest
16   Richmond   23.8   16th oldest
17   Essendon   23.6   Equal 14th oldest
18   West Coast   23.5   17th oldest

As i suspected, we have actually got older, relatively speaking, in this current off-season AND we've lost a-grade talent.

Why people are fawning over our list management team i still cannot comprehend.


Im neither here nor there on numbers but tell us how an average age of a team staying the same whilst most of them aged a year is a list getting older?  By my reckoning thats a year older but an identical result which can only be achieved by getting younger.

Also you might want to revisit what the side at opening round was measured on.  If it was names picked in the side vs players on the list then that might change that equation considerably too. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Lods -
If Scott Pendlebury retires Collingwoods average age will drop to around 19 :D

Average age is meaningless when you're talking the difference between average 24-26.
A few oldies can skew the figures.
Judge youth by the potential of your age 23 and under group.
I reckon we stack up OK

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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW Awards 2026
Last post by kruddler -
TOP 10.....well top 12.....
1. Dayna Finn – 125 votes
2. Harriet Cordner – 109
3. Erone Fitzpatrick – 103
=4. Poppy Scholz – 94
=4. Maddy Hendrie – 94
6. Sophie McKay – 93
7. Abbie McKay – 89
8. Keeley Sherar – 88
9. Mimi Hill – 80
=10. Lily Goss – 75
=10. Breann Harrington– 75
=10. Ciara Fitzgerald – 75


Dare i say it, but where is the elite talent of Darcy Vescio on that list?
Seems pretty clear justification from me suggesting that Darcy has been caught up by the younger talent and indeed surpassed.
Despite playing every game, Vescio was outvoted by Hill and A. McKay....and potentially others as well.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: kruddler – on

As i suspected, we have actually got older, relatively speaking, in this current off-season AND we've lost a-grade talent.

Why people are fawning over our list management team i still cannot comprehend.

There's some dodgy figures there!

According to an AFL article by Cal Twomey in June 2025, the average age per team in 2025 was:

Talk about dodgy data indeed. From your own article, perhaps you should read it next time.....
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1341020/young-fremantle-side-rising-collingwood-lead-the-way-the-oldest-and-youngest-teams-of-2025-revealed
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AFL.com.au's data shows that the Dockers, who will be vying for a top four berth if they can beat North Melbourne this week, were ranked 18th for age and experience on average for the 23-man team they selected between rounds 1-12.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
Don't shoot the messenger, the figures are on the AFL website.

It says when the figures where calculated.

June would've been prefer the MSD.

It may or may not include rookies or players on the LTI list.

Comparing like for like, from the same person on the same site. We got older, relatively speaking. Simples.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler – on

As i suspected, we have actually got older, relatively speaking, in this current off-season AND we've lost a-grade talent.

Why people are fawning over our list management team i still cannot comprehend.

There's some dodgy figures there!

According to an AFL article by Cal Twomey in June 2025, the average age per team in 2025 was:

Collingwood – 28.5 years
Geelong – 26.5
Brisbane – 26.5
Carlton – 26.2
Sydney – 26.1
Western Bulldogs – 26
Melbourne – 25.9
GWS – 25.8
Hawthorn – 25.7
Adelaide – 25.6
Port Adelaide – 25.4
Gold Coast – 25.3
St Kilda – 25.2
North Melbourne – 25.1
Essendon – 24.9
West Coast – 24.8
Richmond – 24.7
Fremantle – 24.6

While the average age of the players who left us is one year older than the average age of players who have come in, I can't see how our average age could drop from 26.2 to 24.9 and from 4th oldest to 6th oldest.  Collingwood's average age dropping from 28.5 to 25.6 is unbelievable given that most of their veterans are going around again.

It seems that there are several "average age" tables with differing values.  Draftguru has our 2026 average age as 25.1 and ranked 6th in terms of age and experience.

And who exactly are the A-graders we've lost?  It's been a while since Doc was an All-Australian.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
My contention is that we prioritised bringing in young talent in order to pass the proverbial baton from the older guard that might have won us something, in an effort to build a younger layer to the team and prevent us from bottoming out.  That group will come good about the time tassie joins (or not).

It puts our recruiting in a different perspective and thats all im aiming for.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1457509/list-analysis-where-your-club-ranks-for-age-and-experience
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RANKING FOR 2026...
Average age: 24.9 (sixth oldest)
Average games: 79.3 (fifth most experienced)
Most games: Nick Haynes (234)
Players with 100-plus games: 15
Players with less than 50 games: 22

        Average age of list at Opening Round, 2026   Ranking at OR, 2025
1   Collingwood   25.6   Oldest
2   Melbourne   25.4   Equal fifth oldest
=3   Brisbane   25.3   Second oldest
=3   Geelong   25.3   Fourth oldest
5   Sydney   25   Equal fifth oldest
6   Carlton   24.9   Eighth oldest
7   Western Bulldogs   24.8   Third oldest
8   Adelaide   24.7   Seventh oldest
9   Port Adelaide   24.4   12th oldest
=10   Fremantle   24.3   11th oldest
=10   Greater Western Sydney   24.3   13th oldest
=10   Hawthorn   24.3   10th oldest
13   St Kilda   24.2   Equal 14th oldest
=14   Gold Coast   24.1   Ninth oldest
=14   North Melbourne   24.1   18th oldest
16   Richmond   23.8   16th oldest
17   Essendon   23.6   Equal 14th oldest
18   West Coast   23.5   17th oldest

As i suspected, we have actually got older, relatively speaking, in this current off-season AND we've lost a-grade talent.

Why people are fawning over our list management team i still cannot comprehend.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by DJC -
Just checked the scorecard and. apart from the slow over rates by both teams, the run rates are interesting:  The Bazballers managed 4.37 runs per over and we're sitting on 5.17.  There's not that much in it but it is significant when you consider the Pom's batting philosophy and their allegedly better bowling attack.