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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Gointocarlton -
44 names on the list, 35 belong to Austin, 8 to SOS (H, Gov, Kemp, Walsh, Weiters, Newmy, Pitto and Cottrell) and 1 to Hughes (Cripps). Safe to say it's largely Austins list now with 3 SOS draftees moving on this trade period gone by. The responsibility of our success or failure from a list perspective will lie squarely with Austin, no more excuses for him.
Having said that, Ill put my hand up and say I've been critical of him but I think he and the team have done an outstanding job this trade period bringing in high end talent at the draft and setting us up to draft Cody Walker (potential no 1 pick) in 2026. Austin had no control over TDK and SOS leaving or Curnow being shown the door (make no mistake, he was shown the door). Replacing talent like TDK and Charlie takes time, it's not done in a draft or a trade period, it takes a few of each at least in my opinion.
We shall see, but I am bullish.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
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Cowan
O. Hollands
Hof
Smith
Dean

We wont know how good these guys are for a while yet and we wont know how much better or worse we could have drafted out of those.

After 6 drafts he hasn't drafted an A grader yet.
define an A grader.

Weitering?
Walsh?
Cripps?
Curnow?
McKay?
Tdk?

Does the recruiter select an A grader or does the club turn them into one?

Thus far Austin has selected talent and its a coin toss between cowan, Hollands, motlop and HOF for his best.  We havent seen jagga yet, so who knows. Ditto Dean.

For mine an A grader is not an objective measure and the selections can only be judged relative to what else was recruited.

I.e.  would you swap walsh for butters?

Same draft.

Need to know what he should have taken with those picks instead of what was taken.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Lods -
Wilson's a developing player who gives his best.
He's improving and played some good games in the VFL last year
Kept saying he needed to be given a senior game
Then when given that senior opportunity he improved again every game.
Only just turned 20
I was really pleased we kept him on.
Give him a bit more time.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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Despite the emphasis on trades and free agents, Austin still drafted some pretty handy players in his first four drafts; Motlop, Ollie Hollands, Cowan, Moir and Wilson.

At the same time, he brought in Williams, Saad, Boyd, Hewett, Lewis Young, Cerra, Acres, O'Keeffe and Matt Carroll and, apart from Oscar McDonald, not one delisted player among them :)

See, there's a point to make here, but when you include Wilson in 'quality players' you devalue the rest of them.

You did similar with pumping up Binns' tyres not too long ago. Well he was 'so bad' that we paid him to not be here, hardly a ringing endoresement like you would have us all believe!

Wilson won a place in the team in round 22 and improved with every game.  He may not be best 23 just yet, but he's certainly got a future.

You must be mistaking me for someone else, Pinot perhaps, because I've always had my doubts about Binns.  I think I mentioned his VFL B&F recently but that's about it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
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Dean, Ison, Smith…

To be fair I think his first 4 drafts he was trading rather than drafting.

Despite the emphasis on trades and free agents, Austin still drafted some pretty handy players in his first four drafts; Motlop, Ollie Hollands, Cowan, Moir and Wilson.

At the same time, he brought in Williams, Saad, Boyd, Hewett, Lewis Young, Cerra, Acres, O'Keeffe and Matt Carroll and, apart from Oscar McDonald, not one delisted player among them :)

See, there's a point to make here, but when you include Wilson in 'quality players' you devalue the rest of them.

You did similar with pumping up Binns' tyres not too long ago. Well he was 'so bad' that we paid him to not be here, hardly a ringing endoresement like you would have us all believe!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: northernblue – on
Dean, Ison, Smith…

To be fair I think his first 4 drafts he was trading rather than drafting.

Despite the emphasis on trades and free agents, Austin still drafted some pretty handy players in his first four drafts; Motlop, Ollie Hollands, Cowan, Moir and Wilson.

At the same time, he brought in Williams, Saad, Boyd, Hewett, Lewis Young, Cerra, Acres, O'Keeffe and Matt Carroll and, apart from Oscar McDonald, not one delisted player among them :)