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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by LP -
@Shakin77‍ Hoyne reported positive shifts in many of the metrics started 2 or 3 weeks before Voss finished, take the opinions offered by the media with a grain of salt.

I can't see a major change in our game plan other than the fact we now stick to it for 4-Qtrs, and that would be a 33% uptick.

Except over the last two weeks I've noticed us starting to slide back a little bit in a couple of metrics. Someone mentioned it here, we seem to be better against the better sides, and we've just played two craps teams in the last 3 rounds.

Which makes any Fox Footy report weird, they must be 2 weeks behind in the stats, or maybe the rest of the competition is on the slide and we are holding stable as I don't look at every club.

Quote from: Shakin77 – on
Fraser has put Hewett back into the middle and Cerra (53% CBA's) on the Wing (0 CBA's).  Credit too him I didn't think that Cerra could play Wing.  Jagga is up 15% CBA's.  McKay into the middle has turned his season around and Fraser has used Ainsworth in the middle to pinch hit up to 15%.
And be careful repeating this rubbish, Hewett was back in the midfield the week before Voss left, McKay had been relief rucking at times most of the season but barely got a tap before his week off, and Cerra was in the Midfield because Hewett was in the maggos, leaving Lord and Smith to share the wing in the Mid rotation.

The commentators happily rewrite history, but they watch our games far less than we do! ;)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Shakin77 -
I don't think it's fair to suggest that the turnaround in form is due mainly to the fixture.   Essendon, Richmond and West Coast we would have all started favorites for however the Wins against Geelong, Bulldogs, Port Adelaide (Away) and GWS (Away) are a significant change in fortunes.

"https://www.tiktok.com/@carlton_flaggers2026/video/7657892411057720594"

"Carlton on track at round 9 to be one of the worst pressure rating teams on record..."

Our pressure and match day energy regardless of the opponent which requires no talent have been remarkably better under Fraser than Voss.

https://x.com/RileyBev/status/2051182183340253489
"Carlton's pressure rating of 152 against St Kilda was its lowest of the season, but that's no surprise. The Blues are the only team in the AFL yet to have a single game this year where they've recorded a higher pressure rating than their opposition."

Fraser has put Hewett back into the middle and Cerra (53% CBA's) on the Wing (0 CBA's).   Credit too him I didn't think that Cerra could play Wing.   Jagga is up 15% CBA's.   McKay into the middle has turned his season around and Fraser has used Ainsworth in the middle to pinch hit up to 15%.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by LP -
Quote from: tonyo – on
Have to learn to take the chances that are offered and bury teams, and do so from the first bounce.
Absolutely, until we see this mentality we have no real hope of success.

We have to hate surrendering even a point!

I thought the other thing that hurt us last weekend was Young getting injured, he was doing OK on the sniper, and Gov was a mobile focus in F50, then it all got turned over and things headed south.

I suppose Young is a compulsory out this week, so hopefully Weiters is an in.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by tonyo -
We should have hit time-on in the last quarter with a 30 point lead, then the last 2 minutes is no longer a raffle.

Have to learn to take the chances that are offered and bury teams, and do so from the first bounce.

This game was so similar to the Essendon one - we didn't turn up to start either of them, and found ourselves 3 goals down against cellar-dwellers.  So you end up playing a game in 3 quarters, with a 3-goal penalty.  That makes both wins look better than the score suggests.

My worry is we cannot play the MCG all that well.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by laj -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Quote from: shawny – on


The question has been answered.

Voss was a champion player but never had it as a coach. Apart from one season in his decade of coaching he failed to deliver with the lists he had.  To see first hand the change the minute he left ends the discussion.

Fraser may or may not be the right selection but one thing is for certain Voss wasn't!  

Don't be afraid Shawny? Back yourself 7-0, you're on fire! We're the team that never lets you down.
I hope you're right and unlike you I will admit I was wrong.
We're still waiting.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by laj -
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
It will sort itself out now Lods.

All our questions will be answered.

The question has been answered.

Voss was a champion player but never had it as a coach. Apart from one season in his decade of coaching he failed to deliver with the lists he had.  To see first hand the change the minute he left ends the discussion.

Fraser may or may not be the right selection but one thing is for certain Voss wasn't!  
Win one more game and we equal or 2025 result with 9 wins.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by madbluboy -
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
It will sort itself out now Lods.

All our questions will be answered.

The question has been answered.

Voss was a champion player but never had it as a coach. Apart from one season in his decade of coaching he failed to deliver with the lists he had.  To see first hand the change the minute he left ends the discussion.

Fraser may or may not be the right selection but one thing is for certain Voss wasn't!  

Don't be afraid Shawny? Back yourself 7-0, you're on fire! We're the team that never lets you down.
I hope you're right and unlike you I will admit I was wrong.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Shakin77 -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Were we better last night than round 1?

All the easy teams are gone now the real stuff begins.

I thought we were better last night than round 1.   

Round 1:  Disposal count pretty level and we lost the inside 50 count by 16.
Round 17:  60+ in Disposals.   Inside 50's level.

Round 1 I thought we were very lucky to have won it.   This time I thought we should have been further in front, especially in the 2nd quarter and we would have been very unlucky to lose it.

Both poor performances, however.