Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on February 28, 2026, 03:57:41 pm

Non Violent Offenders/Flight risk?....one from a neighbouring country has connections to a criminal bikie gang and the other main offender is an Indian National, Id view both as risks to leave the country...
The ISIS brides are extremists and a threat to the community imo and the Minister has the power to issue exclusion orders..
 Under section 17 return permits can be revoked "on the Minister's own initiative".
What this means practically is that Australian citizens could, technically, be banned from returning indefinitely which Is what should happen but Tony Burke has promised his Dr mate he will let them back in and wont act in the interests of the country
Paterson was on the money exposing the whole mess but unfortunately it seems NSW and Victoria will be having to re-house and pay for these Terrorist Brides to live amongst us...

So how do you get them to court without a Criminal Justice Visa?

These procedures have been in operation for many years under governments of both persuasions.  Do you expect the current government to ignore the law?

As for Ene, I’m pretty sure that a judge can’t refuse bail on the grounds that the accused’s brother is a bikie.  I’m also pretty sure that (a) Singh isn’t keen on returning to India and (b) the bail conditions will prevent him trying.

I don’t think there’s a one size fits all solution to the ISIS brides and their children.  A child married at 14 probably deserves different treatment to an adult who still supports ISIS.  But that doesn’t change the Australian government’s obligation to provide citizens with replacement passports. 

Furthermore, ASIO would be all over whether any of these women and children present a security threat.  I’m inclined to go with their assessment over Peta Credlin’s.

We have won 2 of our last 20 games at the SCG vs Syd. Our last win there was when Jesus played CHB for Jerusalem (R17 2019).
This worries me more than anything else (and the fact that I am heading over to watch the game).

Non Violent Offenders/Flight risk?....one from a neighbouring country has connections to a criminal bikie gang and the other main offender is an Indian National, Id view both as risks to leave the country...
The ISIS brides are extremists and a threat to the community imo and the Minister has the power to issue exclusion orders..
 Under section 17 return permits can be revoked "on the Minister's own initiative".
What this means practically is that Australian citizens could, technically, be banned from returning indefinitely which Is what should happen but Tony Burke has promised his Dr mate he will let them back in and wont act in the interests of the country
Paterson was on the money exposing the whole mess but unfortunately it seems NSW and Victoria will be having to re-house and pay for these Terrorist Brides to live amongst us...

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on February 28, 2026, 12:59:17 pm

James Paterson and Andrew Bragg are two of the better performed Liberal Senators imo and yep I know their job as the Libs attack dogs is to drag up dirt on anything Labor do/dont do but the reality is this present Government are great at serving up themselves up on a plate,making mistake after mistake and then trying to cover it up. Letting detainees back into the public who have been charged with serious crimes is horrendous imo and lacking common sense much like giving ISIS brides Passports to come back to Australia and then trying to cover it up and deny giving assistance...
Paterson usually gets it right imo and while he can be over the top wanting detail and pedantic about scoring political points Id rather that than letting these incidents be covered up and buried by the Government..

That's why the Libs are in the doldrums!

A Criminal Justice Visa is granted by the Department of Home Affairs so that an immigration detainee can be kept in the country to face charges.  It's routine and there's nothing unusual or untoward about this.  They were granted bail by the court, as is usually the case for non-violent offenders who aren't flight risks.  The Government doesn't determine who gets bail.

The ISIS brides are Australian citizens and the Australian Government has no choice but to issue them with replacement passports.  It's the law.

Paterson doesn't get things right.  He fakes outrage over part of the story and ignores the facts.

James Paterson and Andrew Bragg are two of the better performed Liberal Senators imo and yep I know their job as the Libs attack dogs is to drag up dirt on anything Labor do/dont do but the reality is this present Government are great at serving up themselves up on a plate,making mistake after mistake and then trying to cover it up. Letting detainees back into the public who have been charged with serious crimes is horrendous imo and lacking common sense much like giving ISIS brides Passports to come back to Australia and then trying to cover it up and deny giving assistance...
Paterson usually gets it right imo and while he can be over the top wanting detail and pedantic about scoring political points Id rather that than letting these incidents be covered up and buried by the Government..

Chesser’s form was pretty good on Wednesday and he has to be in the selection mix too.

Six, seven or eight debutants will mean a lot of work for Sydney’s opposition analysts trying to figure out how we’re going to play … even if they have Bucky’s training reports.

While we could have four players with just three games between them, we will have brought in three seasoned, established AFL footballers, two of whom may have something to prove.

I reckon we’ve got a damn good chance of knocking the Swans off. 🤞

I would take anything Senator James Paterson says with a grain of salt.

The former immigration detainees were granted Criminal Justice Visas; a standard procedure when immigration detainees are charged with criminal offences or required to give evidence in a trial.  Depending on the outcome of the court cases, the former detainees will be imprisoned and then deported or returned to immigration detention, then deported.

Compelling.  Thought this belonged here more than anywhere else.  Remember this when people start bashing numbers at you.