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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Thryleon -
Are the revisionists going to tell us we are remarkably different under Fraser?



Remarkably? No. Better? Yes.

Sorry different.

Are we remarkably different?

I thought the improvement was palpable between coaches?

I ask this because im abroad and havent seen us play any of our matches since the cats game.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Hawthorn at MCG
Last post by shawny -
I think Sam Mitchell would be ropeable after the Demons game, and I would expect him to fire up his charges like never before. It doesn't help us at all that we catch them after they put it such a limp performance.

yeah agree. Mitchell is a of a simialr mould to that little snipping pr1ck clarkon and would have been tearing the paint off the walls after that game even with their cameback. He would not have been happy and will demand a strong response.

If we play our best and they are still without wizard battle and impey we are a big chance.

Only thing if we start poorly its game over. Need to set the tone from the first bounce.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Shakin77 -


Not suggesting for a moment that Ollie was one of our best, but he played on the wing in front of me mostly against Retschko.

He works incredibly hard pushing back as that defensive winger (Acres also very good at this) and had 17.1 metres covered.   The most on the ground of any player on the ground.   Seth Campbell with 14.9 and Newman with 14.2

I thought his game was fairly unremarkable.     He had 1 clanger for the game and 0 turnovers.   He also went at 84.6% with the ball and 77.8% by foot.

Would love to know what the coaches thought of his game



No-one could or would ever question Ollie's work rate. It makes him a sentimental favourite with many fans. Personally, I also love his commitment and endeavour.

Stats don't tell us the quality of his disposals, choice of options or footy IQ. Statistically, Acres had almost three times the metres gained in his game against the Weagles last week. And in a territory gained game, that's an important stat... provided disposal accuracy and choice of options hurt the opposition.

It was a different game.   The Tigers like to turn it into the scrap and have a lot of congestion.

I would argue that Disposal efficiency is a good indication of how efficient his disposal is.   The Other stuff like choice of options or footy IQ is more subjective.   I just can't remember any howlers with the ball.

In regards to metres gain.   Yeah agree.

Might need to factor in however that we had 71 (31.5%) extra uncontested possession and 41 (40.59%) more marks against the Eagles than the Tigers.   It was a much more open game.

Add to that MCG in the rain on a Saturday night vrs Saturday afternoon under the lid at Marvel in perfect conditions.  

Like I said I don't think he was remarkable by any measure.    Thought his game was meddling at best.  
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Hawthorn at MCG
Last post by LP -
The game has changed a lot under the current rules, the need for system and the allowable margin of error is much tighter.

All this frantic forward disposal needs blokes tuned into playing with each other 24x7, fill ins become a fish out of water because a millisecond of hesitation makes them look like bystanders.

If you are thinking about what to do next, it's already too late!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by LP -
I would've had both in the team and dropped Ison personally.
I thought the same, I think Ison is overdue a break, he did a couple of important things at opportune moments, but at this time he's just not getting enough footy to hold that high half forward role.

Having said that, who does it short term? There is no doubt Ison has what is needed long term. I had hoped one of the Campos, but if the OH disposal makes fans fume then the Campos at the moment would send them insane!

My mate said yesterday, if Weiters returns do we rotate Derksen forward and put Kemp into that high half forward role? If nothing else, Derksen should be taking some confidence into F50 from his last few weeks.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Hawthorn at MCG
Last post by laj -
Hawks had their weakest team in for the year with 4-5 players I havent seen play so they were ripe to lose.
Id be expecting a rebound after the poor loss to Melbourne but Id be wanting to see the teams first before I make a prediction... 
Interesting with the Hawks having 5 blokes out. A good side needs to cover better than that. We did in 2023 and alot of 2024 without absolute heaps out. West Coast won a flag in 2018 with 6 of their best out. Hawks want to hope they get their players back and get few injuries for the rest of the year. I thought we were looking at a 130 to 140pt defeat until the Hawks made up 73 points in just over the equivalent of a qtr of footy when the game was well over. Have to be one of the biggest drops in deficit ever, and still lost by 6 goals. Hawthorn and Essendon came back from from 63 and 69 pts once, late 90s and 2001, and won by a few goals, so they might be bigger, but they won.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by kruddler -
[4] Ollie Hollands: Ollie really struggled last night. He fumbled a lot and his kicking was woeful. Also, we didn't see his run and carry either.
Will we bring Acres in? Or do we assume Ollie will be better for the run? To be honest, I don't expect Ollie to be that ordinary two weeks in a row, but I think Acres is important to us.

Not suggesting for a moment that Ollie was one of our best, but he played on the wing in front of me mostly against Retschko.

He works incredibly hard pushing back as that defensive winger (Acres also very good at this) and had 17.1 metres covered.   The most on the ground of any player on the ground.   Seth Campbell with 14.9 and Newman with 14.2

I thought his game was fairly unremarkable.     He had 1 clanger for the game and 0 turnovers.   He also went at 84.6% with the ball and 77.8% by foot.

Would love to know what the coaches thought of his game

I'm a fan of OH, but i found that selection a bit puzzling.

What did OH provide that Acres wasn't providing already?
Did OH do anything better than Acres?

Long term, sure, get more games into Ollie.....but i thought it was a bit of a risk and a slap in the face to Acres.
I would've had both in the team and dropped Ison personally.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 17 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by laj -
By rights we should all be doing cartwheels, given we've just notched our 7th consecutive win. That’s pretty rare for any team. But last night has left us feeling flat. The gap between our best and worst is large, and the struggling teams are able to drag us down to their level. We won’t get within 10 goals of Hawthorn if we have a repeat of last night.
As we've found, our form goes up and down according to the level of the opposition. It was the same against Essendon, then we won the next game well against GWS in Sydney, and a 53pt win last week.

I feel more confident beating a side like Freo more easily than beating Richmond. Not to say we would but I'd feel more confident in it.

Looked like last night we were content to do enough and no more then a couple of nasty umpiring decisions caused us real issues suddenly late in the game.