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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -anyhow as usual we have gotten off the subject so thats it from me.
Sure, we understand!
Sure, we understand!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -Why is their name on the ballot formUnless you were in Allens or Andrews seat their names weren't on your ballot form.
if your not electing the leader?
I think you know what i meant. every bit of advertising leafouts hand outs shows the leaders face.
blind freddie knows who the leaders are.
anyhow as usual we have gotten off the subject so thats it from me.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -Why is their name on the ballot form
if your not electing the leader?
You're confusing marketing and advertising around party politics and leaders with the ballot.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -Nobody elects a poltician to be a Premier, Treasurer or any other position, those positions are the result of an internal party vote as are casual vacanies in the Legilstative Council. We do not have a Republic or President.
Allan was not elected 'by the people' to govern the state. Andrews was. She was then 'elected' by the party which was my point.
In the Legislative Council(Upper House) you might well think you are voting for a person, but you are really voting for a party.
For the Legislative Assembly(Lower House), you vote locally for your local member, those who first win locally become candidates for the party to elect to senior positions.
Why is their name on the ballot form
if your not electing the leader?
every election campaign the leaders are debating against each other in full campaigning mode. spin it any way you want while we all know we vote for the party the leaders qualities polices etc are very much tied to him/her and who we all see when voting.
look at the last election all the hype talk was on kicking Dan out. it failed but all talk was on him.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -The Australian Constitution does not mention "Prime Minister". "Ministers of State" are appointed by the Governor-General. They don't have to be elected but may only hold office for three months unless they do become a senator or MP. In practice, the Governor-General only appoints Ministers as directed by the Prime Minister - who doesn't exist constitutionally
The office of Premier is not defined in the Victorian Constitution but "Premier" is mentioned several times. For example Clause 8A states, "The [Legislative] Assembly may be dissolved if a motion of no confidence in the Premier and the other Ministers of State for the State of Victoria is passed by the Assembly ..." There's no mention of how someone can become the Premier or be removed as Premier, apart from through a no confidence motion as in Clause 8A.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -DJC, I understand how it works. I'm not as ignorant as I think you like to believe I am.
Allan was not elected 'by the people' to govern the state. Andrews was. She was then 'elected' by the party which was my point.
Anyhow weeding completed as also is the discussion for me on this one mate.
No Premiers, or Prime Ministers for that matter, are elected by the people to govern.
Good job with the weeding!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
Allan was not elected 'by the people' to govern the state. Andrews was. She was then 'elected' by the party which was my point.
In the Legislative Council(Upper House) you might well think you are voting for a person, but you are really voting for a party.
For the Legislative Assembly(Lower House), you vote locally for your local member, those who first win locally become candidates for the party to elect to senior positions.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -You need to brush upon our system of government Shawny. Voters elect their local member and five MLCs for each of eight regions.
Prior to 2006 a by-election was required, but the change was made because it was seen as a way of getting more people involved in politics, to ensure all regions have representation.
In recent years it's become controversial because federal parties have issued directives to state parties regarding who to nominate / elect.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -Allan was not elected 'by the people' to govern the state. Andrews was. She was then 'elected' by the party which was my point.
Anyhow weeding completed as also is the discussion for me on this one mate.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -The main reason we struggle is most of the
other countries prioritize the short format games and put their resources into where they can make the most money.
The players all cross pollinate into the different high paying leagues and it's test cricket now which is the novelty game for a lot of nations. How many players can play test cricket compared to the number playing in short format teams.
Italy won their first WC game, two brothers from Sydney Australia with Italian heritage led the way...
I reckon that the main reason we struggle is that we send undermanned and under-prepared teams.
I think I'll barrack for Italy now
Curiosity meant I had to google the origins of cricket in Italy and found Admiral Nelson organised the first cricket match in Italy in the city of Naples and the Italian Cricket Federation
was started by embassy staff and foreign educators in the 1960's.
Of course that led to looking for AFL Football in Italy and I was pleasantly surprised....The 2010 AFL Italia Premiership was the inaugural season for the Australian rules football league in Italy, culminating in a Grand Final on September 4, 2010, at the Capitolina Rugby Field in Rome.
Key 2010 AFL Italia Results:
Champions: The Roma Blues won the inaugural AFL Italia Premiership (the "Scudetto(Little Shield)"), defeating the Milano Aussie Rules.
Grand Final Details: The Roma Blues defeated Milano (who were minor premiers) in a closely contested match. Despite a tight first half (55–54 at half-time), Rome pulled away in the third quarter with 6 unanswered goals, ultimately winning by a margin of roughly 3 goals.
Apologies for HiJacking the cricket thread...I am now a Roma Blues supporter....I think Tony DeBolfo had some connection or did an article somewhere on the Roma Blues.