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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: DJC – on
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Doesn't see why they are getting so much praise when all they did was draft blokes we knew we were getting.

You don't think all list managers go into a draft knowing which players they will draft or, if not, the players they are most likely to draft?

The only difference is that we had to announce the two players we were targeting rather than keeping shtum.
Yeah, which took all the guesswork out of it.
Yet they are hailed as great leaders and innovators.....and added a small forward to the mix.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Doesn't see why they are getting so much praise when all they did was draft blokes we knew we were getting.

You don't think all list managers go into a draft knowing which players they will draft or, if not, the players they are most likely to draft?

The only difference is that we had to announce the two players we were targeting rather than keeping shtum.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods – on
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I think he's agreeing with me Lods. Doesn't see why they are getting so much praise when all they did was draft blokes we knew we were getting.

I'd be a hypocrite if i agreed with it wouldn't I?

I've been pretty consistent on this for the better part of a decade now i reckon.
Every year i hear that 'you need to give them time, or results want show for a few years etc', well i'm still waiting.
I think there would need to be a minor miracle occur this year for me to be proven wrong as i think the slide will continue with only minmal injuries (very unlike us) likely to overcome that slide.

But hey, this thread is about different ways to do things and they are executed what they set out to do which i've given them credit for. Just saying i wouldn't be going down the same path as them.

I respect the fact that you've been consistent.
Nothing wrong with that.
The only issue with consistency is that at some point we may have to change our minds regarding a fixed position.
It then becomes a case of flexibility.
A bit of give in a set position.
You're not there yet...You may never be, and in fact you may end up being right.
As Baggers points out the wheeling and dealing on draft night was a bit more complicated than just securing Dean and Ison.
If it had been Silvagni we'd probably be giving him kudos for his pick swapping

I've given them kudos for what they did. Thats what they wanted to do. They had a plan and acheived it. Its my issue with the plan itself, always has been.

I still think we should've gone a different direction, both last year and this year.

Fun fact, if we didn't do what we did last year, we wouldn't have had to do what we did this year. We had to do all these trades to dig us out of the hole they traded us in to last year. ;)

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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Kruddler gave them 'faint praise' for having a plan.
He also said he didn't agree with it.
So it was pretty faint :D

I think he's agreeing with me Lods. Doesn't see why they are getting so much praise when all they did was draft blokes we knew we were getting.

I'd be a hypocrite if i agreed with it wouldn't I?

I've been pretty consistent on this for the better part of a decade now i reckon.
Every year i hear that 'you need to give them time, or results want show for a few years etc', well i'm still waiting.
I think there would need to be a minor miracle occur this year for me to be proven wrong as i think the slide will continue with only minmal injuries (very unlike us) likely to overcome that slide.

But hey, this thread is about different ways to do things and they are executed what they set out to do which i've given them credit for. Just saying i wouldn't be going down the same path as them.

I respect the fact that you've been consistent.
Nothing wrong with that.
The only issue with consistency is that at some point we may have to change our minds regarding a fixed position.
It then becomes a case of flexibility.
A bit of give in a set position.
You're not there yet...You may never be, and in fact you may end up being right.
As Baggers points out the wheeling and dealing on draft night was a bit more complicated than just securing Dean and Ison.
If it had been Silvagni we'd probably be giving him kudos for his pick swapping
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Praise for what Lods? We selected a father son and our acedmy pick.

It's not that we got Harry and Jack, we were always going to get them as you pointed out, but it was the way we did it - swapping picks and going further back into the draft yet keeping necessary points, then being able to secure a future 2nd and 3rd in the process of getting our targets + Taylor Byrne.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pick our team in parts - Part 1 - Starting Midfielders (inc 1 ruck) - CHOOSE 6
Last post by kruddler -
OK, so we couldn't find an obvious 6th previously, so i'll edit the poll to allow voting for 1 more from the players now on the list to get our 6th midfielder.
Then i'll do the same with the backline, to fill out that 6th.
Then i'll start on the bench.


Before i reset the votes, for completions sake, this was the original votes....
13 votes...

Cripps - 13
Walsh - 13
Hewett - 13
Cerra - 11
Pittonet - 10
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Smith - 5
Lord - 3
Cottrell - 3
Acres - 3
Hollands - 2
Motlop - 1
Reidy - 1