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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by Lods -

Harry Lemmey's delisting looks weirder by the day. 

IIRC he had 3 years to show something but failed to show much at all.

Had one good game I recall where he kicked 7 but mostly was second fiddle to McMahon who hasn't played a game for Essendon this year.

Lemmey was supposed to have signed with West Adelaide this year but I can't see he's played a game with them.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by Thryleon -
System over wins.  Play whoever we need to for the benefit of both.

If the rumours are true, then the culture at the club is only about whats in it for them, so the next coach needs to bring a team first mentality to the club.

Harry Lemmey's delisting looks weirder by the day. 

Ill give the anti Voss brigade something.  The trend of players choosing to depart football rather than stay with the club, shows that potentially the decision to move on the senior coach was a necessary evil.  We have had a lot of people "leave" whether they be pushed or go of their own volition in the last few years, which doesnt speak for a group that had players wanting to be here unless they had their own motivation.  Some pride, others money, or prestige, or one club or whatever, but the outright delisting of Jaxon binns, and Harry Lemmey and playing guys like Reiddy, and Chesser are a bit more illuminating with the fresh news.

Is that still the case though?
Voss spoke in his interview with Barrett about the improvement in the culture.
He seemed happy with his role in improving that aspect.
Several sources have talked about those that weren't on board being mostly gone.
The players left would appear to have been mostly on board with Voss.

Culture and division was a problem last year.
I'm not so sure it was a big problem this year.

Just as an aside...How is Lemmey going this year and where is he playing?





Yes but.

just because you remove dissenting voices, doesnt mean they werent correct.   So the dissenting voices are gone, and then we get rid of the people involved and clean house.  Our clubs approach is off with his head, rather than worry about, but why?>  Or perhaps the but why we are seeing the result of?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by LP -
@Lods‍ just keep in mind division and conflict are not always built on a foundation of truth, people who are social and political are involved.

As a fan it's pretty easy to make altruistic assumptions that more often than not turn out to be completely wrong.

But I find it hard to make a defence against the repeating circumstances and the potential constants.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by Lods -
System over wins.  Play whoever we need to for the benefit of both.

If the rumours are true, then the culture at the club is only about whats in it for them, so the next coach needs to bring a team first mentality to the club.

Harry Lemmey's delisting looks weirder by the day. 

Ill give the anti Voss brigade something.  The trend of players choosing to depart football rather than stay with the club, shows that potentially the decision to move on the senior coach was a necessary evil.  We have had a lot of people "leave" whether they be pushed or go of their own volition in the last few years, which doesnt speak for a group that had players wanting to be here unless they had their own motivation.  Some pride, others money, or prestige, or one club or whatever, but the outright delisting of Jaxon binns, and Harry Lemmey and playing guys like Reiddy, and Chesser are a bit more illuminating with the fresh news.

Is that still the case though?
Voss spoke in his interview with Barrett about the improvement in the culture.
He seemed happy with his role in improving that aspect.
Several sources have talked about those that weren't on board being mostly gone.
The players left would appear to have been mostly on board with Voss.

Culture and division was a problem last year.
I'm not so sure it was a big problem this year.

Just as an aside...How is Lemmey going this year and where is he playing?




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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by Thryleon -
System over wins.  Play whoever we need to for the benefit of both.

If the rumours are true, then the culture at the club is only about whats in it for them, so the next coach needs to bring a team first mentality to the club.

Harry Lemmey's delisting looks weirder by the day. 

Ill give the anti Voss brigade something.  The trend of players choosing to depart football rather than stay with the club, shows that potentially the decision to move on the senior coach was a necessary evil.  We have had a lot of people "leave" whether they be pushed or go of their own volition in the last few years, which doesnt speak for a group that had players wanting to be here unless they had their own motivation.  Some pride, others money, or prestige, or one club or whatever, but the outright delisting of Jaxon binns, and Harry Lemmey and playing guys like Reiddy, and Chesser are a bit more illuminating with the fresh news.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -

Play the kids to play the system...it's about draft picks now not wins IMHO.

Depends on which kids.
Some might be an improvement the way the old blokes are going.

Someone like Moir can benefit from more game time.
He might play a game and get 5 touches.
or
He might kick 5 goals in a half as he has that ability.

Do you play Reidy or HOK instead of Pittonet?
Is that too obvious for tanking?

Ison for Harry a week ago was favoured, but after that half from harry do we keep him?
Harry I would play and fatten up for the trade period. Not saying I would trade him but if the offer was overs I'd think about it...
Ison deserves a debut and we need to know about the Campos, Charleson etc.
HOK needs game time and to find a role...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by Lods -
Pittonet, Cripps, Weitering and Walsh all look like they could do with a week off. ;) :D

Seriously though.
Florent, Willams and Walsh all looked to be injured at the end of the Brisbane game.
Walsh and the medical folk were showing particular interest in his foot...that's a wait and see

The result could be anything from a sugar hit, to a side that's a bit rocked by the loss of a coach.
We should start to see the kids, but not all in one hit, and hopefully they get blocks of three or four games.
Charleson and Ben Camporeale need to debut to see how they handle senior football.

No expectations for this game but interested to see how Fraser and the team approach it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Last post by kruddler -
Apparantely we still have a game this week.

Appears it will be without Saad who has done a hammy today.

Reckon that ensures Wilson keeps his spot, but new coach, new ideas, who knows.
Play the kids to play the system...it's about draft picks now not wins IMHO.

Depends on which kids.
Some might be an improvement the way the old blokes are going.

Someone like Moir can benefit from more game time.
He might play a game and get 5 touches.
or
He might kick 5 goals in a half as he has that ability.

Do you play Reidy or HOK instead of Pittonet?
Is that too obvious for tanking?

Ison for Harry a week ago was favoured, but after that half from harry do we keep him?