Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: shawny – on November 11, 2026, 07:37:31 pm

If anyone is a laughing stock with that statement....

You are that rusted on that you want us to believe our system prevents corrupt politicians simply as your party is the one with all the allegations of corruption! Funny that.

Yet despite having this rock solid system here we are at the start of a Royal commission costing tax payers money we don't have, representing Mr Andrews and Mrs Allan for all the corruption allegations ...

Give it up mate and just have the balls to admit your views are skewed like most of us are.

Which party is my party Shawny?

For the record, I have never been a member of any political party and have voted for Labor, Liberal, Australian Democrats, and independent candidates.  Vote Compass says I’m right of centre.

I was talking to an RSL mate at our Remembrance Day commemoration today and he just happens to be our local One Nation candidate.  He’s pretty switched on and I think that he would be a decent local member.  I can’t vote for him because his party is based on racism and bigotry, has no policies, and is owned by Gina Rinehart. 

Another mate is running as an independent candidate and she is far and away the most intelligent and well-educated in the field.  She’d be a great MP but, realistically, has no chance.  I could vote for her, knowing that my vote would go to my second preference.

I didn’t speak to the sitting State MP today - the Commonwealth MP told me that I looked “sharp”! - but she is very popular and will probably retain the seat. 

The Liberal candidate seems to have accepted that outcome and is doing an excellent impression of the invisible man.  The Greens candidate just makes up the numbers.

The thing is that I have worked with every Victorian State Government from Henry Bolte to Denis Napthine, and have briefed and advised Labor, Liberal and Nationals Ministers in the Bracks/Brumby and Baillieu/Napthine governments.  Some were risk averse, some were “courageous” as Sir Humphrey Appleby would say, some acted on advice, others wanted the advice to fit their agenda, all were driven and believed in what they were doing, and there was only ever one hint of corruption; a planning minister ignored departmental advice and approved a development that was later overturned on appeal.  This was all in the days before IBAC but the Auditor-General and Ombudsman still kept a very tight rein.

I’m sure that nobody really gives a fat rat’s clacker about your bizarre political beliefs, or mine for that matter, but don’t presume that you know anything about my politics, or how the State Government is run.  Right wing conspiracy theories aren’t real, and neither are the left wing equivalents.

Quote from: DJC – on November 11, 2026, 07:11:27 pm

The fact of the matter is that you have an idiosyncratic view of Australian politics but assume that many people agree with that view. 

Our system of government has checks and balances, and a responsive electorate, that mean that we will never have to put up with the incompetence and megalomania that's made the USA a global laughing stock ... but a very dangerous laughing stock.

If anyone is a laughing stock with that statement....

You are that rusted on that you want us to believe our system prevents corrupt politicians simply as your party is the one with all the allegations of corruption! Funny that.

Yet despite having this rock solid system here we are at the start of a Royal commission costing tax payers money we don't have, representing Mr Andrews and Mrs Allan for all the corruption allegations ...

Give it up mate and just have the balls to admit your views are skewed like most of us are.

Give it up mate and just have the balls to admit your views are skewed like most of us are.

Quote from: shawny – on November 11, 2026, 06:14:43 pm

So what your saying is that theory is based on how the current party is viewed?

The fact of the matter is that you have an idiosyncratic view of Australian politics but assume that many people agree with that view. 

Our system of government has checks and balances, and a responsive electorate, that mean that we will never have to put up with the incompetence and megalomania that's made the USA a global laughing stock ... but a very dangerous laughing stock.

Quote from: DJC – on November 11, 2026, 06:02:02 pm

The simple answer is that there is a senile malignant narcissist with the nuclear codes in the White House.  A fool who has disrupted world trade with his tariffs and tanked the global economy with his illegal war in Iran.

Our pollies, of all persuasions, are constrained by more effective constitution and electoral system and aren't really able to do much damage, particularly at an international level.

And you would have to be joking to suggest that any past or present Australian government, even the notorious Bjelke-Petersen government, comes anywhere near the nepotism, cronyism, incompetence, grifting and disregard for the rule of law displayed by POTUS #45 amd #47.

So what your saying is that theory is based on how the current party is viewed?

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And you would have to be joking to suggest that any past or present Australian government, even the notorious Bjelke-Petersen government, comes anywhere near the nepotism, cronyism, incompetence, grifting and disregard for the rule of law displayed by POTUS #45 amd #47.