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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Jess Wilson is an attempt from the Libs to change course and try and appeal to younger voters and female voters.
Be interested if rusted on older Lib voters buy what she is selling given she is a more moderate Liberal and has some personal views that are not aligned with normal liberal policy offerings.

That's going to be her big challenge EB.

Jess Wilson had a good first day and I think that she could drag the Liberals out of the quagmire, if given the freedom to do so.  I think that she will appeal to younger voters and female voters and they've both been the Libs' Achille's heels over the last quarter of a century.  It's those crusty, old, misogynistic Libs that will act as a sheet anchor, or worse, and will fight to stop the party regaining the centre ground.
I think she presents well and ticks quite a few boxes that her predecessors haven't. Having said that, I have a feeling that  Allan and her more experienced cronies will eat her alive and run her out of town.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Jess Wilson is an attempt from the Libs to change course and try and appeal to younger voters and female voters.
Be interested if rusted on older Lib voters buy what she is selling given she is a more moderate Liberal and has some personal views that are not aligned with normal liberal policy offerings.

That's going to be her big challenge EB.

Jess Wilson had a good first day and I think that she could drag the Liberals out of the quagmire, if given the freedom to do so.  I think that she will appeal to younger voters and female voters and they've both been the Libs' Achille's heels over the last quarter of a century.  It's those crusty, old, misogynistic Libs that will act as a sheet anchor, or worse, and will fight to stop the party regaining the centre ground.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: LP – on
I suppose the fundamental problem with the Liberals even at a state level is that they are percieved as a coalition not a party, and that is because they behave like a coalition and not a party, they do not exhibit unity. And the people being offered as alternatives to the right might not be as pure as the general public is lead to believe.

There is quite a bit of irony for the anti-soclialist and anti-union LIberals to be torn apart by obvious factions even if they refuse to call them factions.

There are factions alright at a federal level...

The National Right (the largest faction) -Angus Taylor, Mickey Cash, Hastie (although he's probably moving around a bit due to leadership aspirations.

The Moderates (the party's left-such as it is)- Ley and Ted O'Brien sit here.

And the Centre Right (the group in the middle)-once the largest group during Morrison's time...now a shell of less than half a dozen due to lost seats and factional movement.

I'm not sure how those grouping tanslate to Victorian politics.


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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Professer E -
But apparently it's a scam, a hoax,  and it's an issue for the democrats to own up to and be concerned about....dunno, he seemed pretty chummy with a certain high profile pedo in the photos going around.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: tonyo – on
If Trump had nothing to fear, he would have had these files out the minute he took office.

That, and the fact that he has his own FBI stooge making sure the manilla folders don't get opened, suggests there is substantial stuff that he is very aware of.

Just waiting for Ghislaine Maxwell to get her pardon, followed by a Press Conference where she 'exonerates' the Orange One.

One day, just maybe we will find out the whole truth.
Thats one perspective.  The other is that there are ALOT of people that have a lot to lose if those files get out. 

Who those might be is up for debate, but this is probably more of a reason for him to have been attempted to be killed, than anything anyone was worried about politically.  They figure off him, and the files go away.

Joe average didnt go to Epstein Island.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by tonyo -
If Trump had nothing to fear, he would have had these files out the minute he took office.

That, and the fact that he has his own FBI stooge making sure the manilla folders don't get opened, suggests there is substantial stuff that he is very aware of.

Just waiting for Ghislaine Maxwell to get her pardon, followed by a Press Conference where she 'exonerates' the Orange One.

One day, just maybe we will find out the whole truth.