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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Last post by Lods -


Did Voss's demise reflect greatly on those who chose him.
We'll forget who was even on the panel in the three to four years a new coach will get.
Wright will be the only one in the gun (if he is still there)...because it's pretty apparent  that he's the one making the calls.
He's our new villain for some.

I already pointed out that Priestly wiped his hands of any blame of the appointment of Voss.....despite being part of the board, as was Diesel.....and they are not alone.
So while YOU might forget who made the calls, plenty of others will remember. Possibly the same people making noise now.

I find it funny that you plead ignorance to the those who made the previous call, but blind faith in those that are making this one....its the same people.....at least in part.

But like many sheep in the past.....THIS time it will be different.  ::)

I have no problems with the folks who picked Voss.
It was a judgement made with the best info at the time.
I'll have no problem with those who choose the next coach
(But I have a feeling it may already be down to  very short list)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Last post by Lods -
#1 strategy is to point out the issues with the club to people like yourself that continue following based on blind faith.
You've pointed them out more than once.
But you have a very limited audience.
I just don't feel the same as you do.
The club will not give you a lot of attention, because they will be getting feedback that opposes your views.
I've pointed out before that you can't tell people how to support.
People will make up their own mind.


If enough people realise the problems with the club, the more likely it is to bring about enough noise to make a difference.

That suggests you don't have room for an alternative view.
That's 'lecturing' your own perceptions.
...and smacks of your views being superior.
Folks won't embrace that, in fact it's likely to turn them off.


I'm not in a position to try and oust the board personaly, nor do i think anyone else in here is. But its like when people go to the polls in an election.....every vote counts. Well every voice counts, eventually it may lead to a change.
But we're speaking with a 100,00 different voices. Not everyone thinks the same as you do

#2 strategy would be providing appropriate feedback from club surveys and the like. Get enough people being negative and they have to take notice.

Use the media, , social media, talkback radio etc.

People do exactly that, and if that really does have an effect it may be one of the reasons that changes have occurred.
Because some of the talkback this year has been savage.
Don't we want the club to ignore the outside noise.
Or does that only apply to our views.


How did Sydney supporters get Roos hired despite the fact Wallace had signed a contract?
It is possible.

Not sure what you're asking for here.
Do you want the club to give the new coach (and others) as much time as it takes to win a flag.
Roos was a change that was result driven.
It was a change that had an immediate time frame attached.
Changes in the way the club operates isn't as straight forward, and doesn't have the same fixed time frame.


But....if people just suck it up, lube up and bend over.....nothing is going to change.

This is the part you can't seem to grasp.
Not everyone feels the same.
Many are quite happy and looking forward to see how things develop.



You bring up the point that an umpire won't change their decision. This is true.
However, if the umpire hears the roar of the crowd and the boos when people see a replay, he realises that he probably made the wrong decision, and next time a similar thing occurs, he may do it differently. Without the 'noise' of the crowd....nothing changes.

So....make some noise!

I don't want to.
I'm interested in what the future looks like with new coaches and new recruiters
And as time goes by the feelings of anger will change to ones of acceptance and we'll all move on.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by kruddler -
What's the trend of these little turds getting arrested, released with a feather duster on the wrist (not even a slap these days) and re-offending?
It's a legitimate question, but I'd assert the wrong people are being asked the question.

It's almost like the courts which are full of lawyers spend all day finding loopholes in the laws to set the multiple offending teens free!

I know of one person working on the inside that will tell you it's deliberate, because they think the evidence is clear, the more time the worst kids spend inside the system the more likely it is they become career criminals. But I'm not sure this isn't a confusion of cause and effect, and a consequence of lawyers, welfare and other legal types talking themselves into a corner.

Australia is a big place, maybe it's time to have some sort of remote national service camp for these kids, and put their natural talents to work in Iran or Afghanistan! Of course some will be horrified at the suggestion, but the there there there it'll all be right you are forgiven is clearly failing.

Career criminals, maybe.

But if they get out and keep offending, they go back behind bars.

IF they are out and keep offending....what have we gained?

Better to lock them up and make the community safer in the short term at least.