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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
What im high lighting is until we address the revolving door of why people want out, we arent going to achieve much.

Free agency is a powerful financial incentive to change clubs but over the last decade only two of our players have exercised free agency.

In fact, in that time only two players - Gibbs and Curnow - have sought clearances to other clubs.  Tuohy, Phillips, Petrevski-Seton, Setterfield, Fisher, Kennedy and Owies were put on the trade table and Jones "retired" for philosophical reasons.

Four players wanting out over the last decade is hardly a revolving door.  On the flip side, we had Ainsworth, Chesser, Reidy and Khamis all wanting to come to Carlton last off season, as well as two FS and NGA prospects nominating us.  Apart from the Khamis trade not getting done, the Western Bulldogs have had seven players exercise free agency or successfully seek clearances in the last four years.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: Baggers – on
Quote from: Thryleon – on
What im high lighting is until we address the revolving door of why people want out, we arent going to achieve much.

Sorry, 3 Leos, but I do not believe we have a revolving door of people who want out. The only best 25 or so blokes who wanted out were TDK and Charles. Nothing we could do about TDK considering the massive financial from the Aints to set him up for life.

Yes, we've learned that it was not ideal in the locker room last year, but I'm more than confident that any ructions are being dealt with, if not already dealt with.

Is that right?

More want to leave us than stay recently as far as im concerned.

My thought process is we have to pay overs for average players, the few stars we have seem to face periods where they dont want or arent interested in playing for us, and then the second we get someone in demand they start floating about wanting out.

You never left an employer you were happy working for, and sometimes you leave what you consider a bad manager.

Sure players leave other clubs too, but just last season we had Charlie want out.  McKay with mental health issues where ne needed a break from playing (not solely about us).  Docherty pulling up stumps when he probably could get a game today (more factors there too, to do with where he saw us going and where he was at).  Jsos pretty much walking out, admittedly for bigger dollars but that one is alarming. Tdk getting a godfather offer but let's face it, he wanted out as much as anything.

Is isolation all that is acceptable, but we've been here a few times over the journey.  Is my point.  Why do all these people want out?  Why do we appear one of the few teams where this theme plays out repeatedly?  You dont see a mass exodus from too many teams but at Carlton in reckon we are on number 4 since 2004.  Theres something in it and it also goes back to attracting players too.  People dont seem all that enthused about coming to us.   We are just an option. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
What im high lighting is until we address the revolving door of why people want out, we arent going to achieve much.

I just don't think there's an easy answer.
It's not a single issue that causes people to leave.
What I do feel is that Wright has spent around 12 months acting as an almost 'independent' reviewer.
It's given him the opportunity to assess where he thinks changes need to be made, be that on-field or off-field.

Now to make sweeping changes all at once may be counter productive so...
Make a few to start....Head of football for one.
Move a few players who don't want to be part of the future.
Then look at it again this year and make a few more...we can probably guess at those if things don't improve.

That gives him a base to work with over the next few seasons.
The only problem with all that is...even CEOs aren't ever safe at Carlton. ;)  :D
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
What im high lighting is until we address the revolving door of why people want out, we arent going to achieve much.

Sorry, 3 Leos, but I do not believe we have a revolving door of people who want out. The only best 25 or so blokes who wanted out were TDK and Charles. Nothing we could do about TDK considering the massive financial from the Aints to set him up for life.

Yes, we've learned that it was not ideal in the locker room last year, but I'm more than confident that any ructions are being dealt with, if not already dealt with.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: Blue Moon – on
I have a glass half full view on our list but I think we need a Van Rooyen type key forward and a dominant ruckman. Players with pace, can hit targets and don't fumble are also good to recruit.

Likewise, BM, I reckon most of our list is in good shape.

Our major issue is our midfield/wings. Too slow, too predictable, too many similar/ same types. Thank the gods for Jagga... but he's only one skinny kid with a great footy IQ and silky skills. I still believe Kemp should be given midfield time to see if he can add something... he is hard at it and not slow.
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The Sports Desk / Re: Track and Field
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: Lods – on
A post from Torrie Lewis.

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A bit weird to post this 1.5 years later, but today I got the news that I was the 1st clean runner across the line in the 200m U20 World championships in 2024.
So after the DQ of the runner who tested positive I can happily say I am the U20 200m World Champion

The original WC winner Adaejah Hodge was disqualified for testing positive to a banned substance.

Sad to think that juniors are drug cheats 🙁
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carltons list changes needed to chase flag 17
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Blue Moon – on
Players with pace, can hit targets and don't fumble are also good to recruit.
imho, this is key to our slower list performing, when we start double grabs we lose the time and space that we struggled to create in the first place. We play like rabbits in the headlights more than any other team.

It only takes one or two players to make a difference, the inverse of the Swans losing Heeney and Gulden. Some are prone to tell you we need a slash and burn, doing that is utter stupidity. We just need one or two competitive types who can keep up with play and be clean with the footy, and the change will be dramatic.

If we have everybody, coach, players and assistants entering every game like it's a walk to the gallows, held at gunpoint to perform, improvement will never happen.