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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by Thryleon -
I'm neither here nor there on EV's.

I see them as a way forward, but not necessarily the way forward if you get my drift.  I am not an early adopter of any technology so have kept my distance (we have bought 2 vehicles since 2008, and both are Petrol cars, one of which was bought 2017, the other in 2024 to replace a 2008 car that probably had another 5 to 10 years in it, but became cost benefit to ditch in favour of something else, because that car was in need of more maintenance than I liked.

The main reason not to go EV, was more cost vs benefit at the time.  The car I bought was cheaper than the average good EV, and we didnt need to put a charging station in for it which made petrol win.  I also liked the shape of the car I bought, over what was on offer equivalent.  We gravitate to what we like the look of generally, be it food, scenery, choice of partner, etc. 

I have no feedback for the validity of EV.  I can only talk about rechargeable batteries in power tools, and solar panels for xmas lights and I have mixed fervour for them.  I find the battery powered tools to either be under powered, or unable to last the duration required to get the job done but thats not really a true comparison.  Xmas lights get stored for 10 months of the year, are made from NiMH and usually sit there and degrade in the process which limits their longevity.

Ive switched to plug in lights purely because they are brighter and more reliable, but the solar ones have their use cases such as range and isolation. 

Anyway, thats my two cents.  I had the Tesla's as a rule, but its more bout Musk, and his business model than anything else.  Subscriptions in general annoy me.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by northernblue -
Quote from: LP – on
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Lp, the only fact you managed to spew forth is that Tesla is going subscription for FSD, everything else is your own poorly formed opinion.
Ev batteries will outlast the vehicles, ie 20-30yrs before being repurposed, it’s what the science shows it’s what real world charging data shows.
Go and educate yourself ffs.
Did I trigger something, are you a disgruntled Tesla investor? Not to worry SpaceX will list soon.

Firstly, I think you've confused contemptuous AI driven marketing for science, and I could debate it here but it's the wrong thread, I was more discussing the corporate tactics and the inevitable. But it is cute that you think the concept of subscriptions will stop with FSD, stay optimistic! ;D

btw., If I recall correctly, when previously discussing the very long term carbon debt (NIMBY carbon it seems) that comes with offloading a perfectly good ICE for a brand new EV, those so inclined to argue the EV position claimed that the EVs would functionally outlast the batteries many times over, I think some claimed at least 1 million kilometers, and as such the vehicles carbon deficit was irrelevant to battery longevity. Now we read your post claiming that the batteries will outlast the car! :o

Doubling down on dribble LP ?
Very unusual of you… 🙄

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Black Mirror did an episode similar to this. "Hated by the Nation"

Bees went extinct, so we made robot bees to do the job.
These were ultimately hijacked and used to kill people. Person who was killed was whoever got the most 'votes' on social media.
Torch and Pitchforks from the comfort of your own home!

Seems ludicrous when summarised, but watch the episode and tell me where the plot hole is, if you can find one.
Sounds like it will remind me of the dystopian plot from the movie AI, which offered a similar damning commentary about the nature of human society.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
Quote from: northernblue – on
Lp, the only fact you managed to spew forth is that Tesla is going subscription for FSD, everything else is your own poorly formed opinion.
Ev batteries will outlast the vehicles, ie 20-30yrs before being repurposed, it’s what the science shows it’s what real world charging data shows.
Go and educate yourself ffs.
Did I trigger something, are you a disgruntled Tesla investor? Not to worry SpaceX will list soon.

Firstly, I think you've confused contemptuous AI driven marketing for science, and I could debate it here but it's the wrong thread, I was more discussing the corporate tactics and the inevitable. But it is cute that you think the concept of subscriptions will stop with FSD, stay optimistic! ;D

btw., If I recall correctly, when previously discussing the very long term carbon debt (NIMBY carbon it seems) that comes with offloading a perfectly good ICE for a brand new EV, those so inclined to argue the EV position claimed that the EVs would functionally outlast the batteries many times over, I think some claimed at least 1 million kilometers, and as such the vehicles carbon deficit was irrelevant to battery longevity. Now we read your post claiming that the batteries will outlast the car! :o
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: kruddler – on
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For all the things people worry about regarding the internet and AI, this stuff being done in the USA is far more worrisome, it's literally the genesis of the grey goo as they are already working on self-assembling versions.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scirobotics.adu8009

This stuff will make Drone, Nuclear or Chemical Warfare look like a Sunday Picnic.

For all the good it could potentially do, think about your pepper grinder, sauce on your McBurger, herbs on your focaccia, dust on your carpet, dirt on your shoes, and now think of it in the hands of a Putin, Xi or RedTrump, a failed heart valve, a stroke, pneumonia, blindness, a headache.

Winds farms, 5G, EM, Infrasound, they are a freaking walk in the park by comparison!

What would this guy think, gravy for the mind?

Is your arm itching?

Black Mirror did an episode similar to this. "Hated by the Nation"

Bees went extinct, so we made robot bees to do the job.
These were ultimately hijacked and used to kill people. Person who was killed was whoever got the most 'votes' on social media.
Torch and Pitchforks from the comfort of your own home!

Seems ludicrous when summarised, but watch the episode and tell me where the plot hole is, if you can find one.

Excellent episode (Hated In The Nation). Nailed the realities of human nature... at it's most creative/ingenious, and most tribal/vulgar. You're right, K, there aint no plot hole.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by PaulP -
If he’s that interested in trash awards, he should demand the Economics prize, aka the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel. Whilst not actually an economist, his groundbreaking work in the areas of tariffs, tax cuts for the rich, personal enrichment, to say nothing of his numerous business failures, reveal a deep, rich and complex understanding of both Neoclassical and Keynesian economic theory.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by DJC -
GOP Congressmen are threatening impeachment if Taco invades Greenland.

It looks like he’ll be impeached after the mid-terms in any event.

And how about the Qatari bank account to hold the proceeds of Venezuela oil sales?

Only in America 🙄
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Last post by madbluboy -
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Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado said she had presented her Nobel Peace Prize to US President Donald Trump during a high-stakes encounter that could affect how Trump seeks to shape the South American country’s political future.
But the Nobel Prize people said it is 'not possible' for an award winner to pass the prize onto someone else.

She was just giving it to the rightful winner.