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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
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No, because as we know, our list management is determined by committee with the coach, head of football and CEO all involved and sharing responsibility for direction and decisions.  Another couple of KPPs would be nice, but not if they're like Harry Lemmey or Josh Schache.
It's not lost on me, that only a short while ago when we had Lemmey and a couple of others, a lot of fans complained the list was top heavy. At the time fans were content with Harry and Charlie with Pitto on hand and TDK coming into contention, and most were busy screaming for more midfield depth.

Now we have a midfield bonanza, at least at the moment, TDK and Charlie have buggered off, and all of a sudden it's list mismanagement!

Some navigate list management like Captain Jack Sparrow's crazy compass, always pointing to what you desire without showing you a direction!

Who was those fans that were complaining it was top heavy?

As best as i can recall, there was only 1 person who suggested as much and it was based purely on heights rather than ability to play the positions, and that was DJC.

Don't recall anyone else saying that.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by kruddler -
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Was Austins greatest failing that he couldn't find a couple of understudy KPF's and the reason why he was shown the door?

No, because as we know, our list management is determined by committee with the coach, head of football and CEO all involved and sharing responsibility for direction and decisions.  Another couple of KPPs would be nice, but not if they're like Harry Lemmey or Josh Schache.

Someone has the final say. Committee or not, there is a boss.

Same with Voss. By your logic, since we sacked Voss, we should've sacked the rest of the committee as well!

Can't have it both ways.

FYI, the coach, the head of football and the ceo have all changed in the past 12 months. So why should Austin be spared?
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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW Rd 4 2026 Carlton vs Collingwood at Carlton
Last post by DJC -
Good win by the girls and the six goal margin probably reflects the state of both teams.

Yasmin Duursma is really starting to realise her potential and did some nice things.  I'm glad that we persevered with her.

The commentators mentioned that was our ninth consecutive win at Princes Park so we may be building a decent home ground advantage.  I guess that means the AFL will shift the finals to another venue  ::)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by Lods -
We had a pretty balanced list....probably just needed a bit of run.
Then a Key forward, an athletic ruck/ forward and a key defender gave us the old 'finger' and walked out the door.
They left.
They turned their back on us.
We can debate who or what was responsible for that... ::)
It wouldn't have been close to being all on Austin.

Austin's draft/trade strategy through much of 2025 would not have been geared to replacing Curnow and Silvagni.
He probably would have accepted he couldn't match the DeKoning offer.
He was thrown a curve with the departures, but handled it quite well.
It took a bit of time, and it wasn't until towards the second half of the season we saw the fruits of some of those labours.

Few lists are complete.
We're a work in progress, with some good youth coming through.
Obviously though, there were some shortcomings identified in Austin's work, and it will be interesting to see the focus during this years trade and draft period.
That may give us an indication of where Austin fell short of expectations.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by laj -
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Was Austins greatest failing that he couldn't find a couple of understudy KPF's and the reason why he was shown the door?
The perception of your List Manager comes down to whether you're winning and losing at the time. This year we did both in blocks this year. Looked a dud for a while, now looks good with who is performing. List Manager can pick the players, then up to the development, with the draftees at least.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by laj -
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Not until we recruit or develop better options.

Young earned his place in the team after spending much of the season in the VFL
Young had reached his ceiling and found wanting at AFL.
Best to give someone else a go. Even a MSD pick might be OK

Why do we persist with players that won’t be part of a premiership team?
We've had a trillion players come and go since out last flag so god knows who'll be in our next premiership team, although after this year and another pre-season to properly work on things we may have much of the side hopefully now. Even premiership teams have average players.

I don't know what to do with Young. Let him go, keep him for depth. He looked like being damn close to a premiership player in 2021 when the Dogs led by 19pts just past midway through the 3rd qtr. Then, like Geelong last year, suddenly fell in a complete heap. Before you get rid of him, the question is, can be find a better option.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Award 2026
Last post by crashlander -
AFL 2026 WC#1:   Carlton vs Melbourne
We've been playing Elimination Finals for weeks, but we managed to get through again with a brave win.

Trends:
[1]   There were 12 voters this round, which is a little disappointing for such a stunning victory.
please do vote, win, lose or draw: it is something we appreciate and it makes our statistics a lot more reliable. And our statistics hold up pretty well when it comes to John Nicholls Medal night!
I must admit that I see a lot of names from previous campaigns who no longer vote and find that disheartening. I can only hope hope those posters are faring well.

[2]   The rating was a 9.76, which represents an A-! Voters were pleased with this one.

[3]   15 players managed a mention this week, which is reasonably typical of a win, but something a little less than some of our recent triumphs.

[4]   The average vote this week was 32, which is very strong. Scores are around 30 are more usual when we win, so read into that what you will.

[5]   Again 4 players managed 100 votes or more. This is normal for a win these days.

[6] It was really close at the top this week, with 28 votes separating Sam Walsh (333) from Jagga Smith (305). This was Walsh's 10th BOG for the season!

[7] Only three players managed votes from everyone again this week; Walsh, Smith and Ainsworth.

[8]   It was a more even spread this week, with a strong midfield and a powerful defence.

[9] Our youngsters again were significant. Smith was brilliant again. Dean was significant.


Votes:
Walsh, Sam   333
Smith, Jagga   305
Weitering, Jacob   215
Ainsworth, Ben   187
Dean, Harry   89
Hollands, Oliver   69
Pittonet, Marc   61
Haynes, Nicholas   49
Lord, Cooper   41
Cripps, Patrick   28
Cottrell, Matthew   28
Cowan, Lachlan  20
Florent, Oliver  16
Cerra, Adam  16
Kemp, Brodie  4


Progressive Voting:
Walsh, Sam   4804
Patrick Cripps  3825
Smith, Jagga  2880  
Hewett, George  2002
Pittonet, Marc  1433
Florent, Oliver  1389
Will Hayward  1126
Ainsworth, Ben  1121
Evans, Francis 984
Newman, Nic   943
Harry McKay  943
Dean, Harry 782
Matthew Carroll   769
Haynes, Nick   763
Kemp, Brodie  735
Mitch McGovern 710
Weitering, Jacob  681
Cowan, Lachie  612
Ollie Hollands  482
Cerra, Adam  478
Hollands, Elijah  426 
Byrne, Talor  422
Blake Acres  397
William, Zac  330
Lord, Cooper  250
Wilson, Billy   232
Wade Derksen   119
Young, Lewis   94
Cottrell, Matthew 59
Ison, Jack   43
Liam Reidy   28
Boyd, Jordan   27
Adam Saad   15
Flynn Young   8
Flynn Riley   6
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by LP -
Quote from: DJC – on

No, because as we know, our list management is determined by committee with the coach, head of football and CEO all involved and sharing responsibility for direction and decisions.  Another couple of KPPs would be nice, but not if they're like Harry Lemmey or Josh Schache.
It's not lost on me, that only a short while ago when we had Lemmey and a couple of others, a lot of fans complained the list was top heavy. At the time fans were content with Harry and Charlie with Pitto on hand and TDK coming into contention, and most were busy screaming for more midfield depth.

Now we have a midfield bonanza, at least at the moment, TDK and Charlie have buggered off, and all of a sudden it's list mismanagement!

Some navigate list management like Captain Jack Sparrow's crazy compass, always pointing to what you desire without showing you a direction!