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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by Thryleon -

It depends. 

Look at Jagga's reaction to Saturday night.  The kid was in tears after the game.  As it is playing for carlton is hard work.  Its harder work when you arent winning.

We need to breed a winners mentality and that means forgoing the extra draft pick, and taking the hit.   Tanking will not get us anywhere because our team is far too fragile to be conditional.

What we should be doing, is absolutely flogging everyone at training, so that way we lose because we arent good enough yet, and condition them to be fitter and stronger in the process.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Port have unofficially acknowledged their list needs work and have been playing kids/ no names on a consistent basis and there has been little criticism about their form and they have slipped under the radar thanks to us and Essendon making the news everyday.
The average Carlton less informed supporter will be happy with a few sugar hit wins and not think about the big picture or how to tackle the draft changes.
It's a lot harder for us to play the system because the Carlton image is always under scrutiny and making news.
Port can be crap and no one gives a second thought why but we are always over analysed and will always attract attention with team changes and reasoning. eg We dropped Hewett and it became a weekly topic for the media. Don't think we are dumber but are caught between appearing to want to win every game to appease supporters/media and playing the system for the long game.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by PaulP -
Where was the outrage when Jeff Kennett intoduced the statue policy?  Ironically, Kennett is now outraged over the Andrews statue, but that has to be down to sour grapes.

I used to walk past the statues quite regularly and they do provide an eye-catching artistic commentary of Victoria's political history.  I think that each of the statues captures the essence of its subject, with the exception of Albert Dunstan, who I wouldn't know from a bar of soap.  $134K is peanuts and Andrews is more worthy of a statue than the scandal-ridden Henry Bolte, with his disdain of social justice and penchant for manufacturing crises to achieve his political ends.

Statues of politicians and other leaders are very common and nothing new. IMO a storm in a tea cup. There seems to be a spectrum of grievances on here and I can't quite disentangle them.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
The policy is a wank, but you should blame the Hon Jeff Kennett, who introduced the policy in 1999, thinking he was a shoo-in for a 3rd term and an ugly statue.

I would be curious to know how many taxpayers there are in Victoria, and what the actual cost would be to each of them. Bugger all I suspect. If nothing else, Andrews certainly deserves credit for being able to live rent free in his enemies' heads.

Where was the outrage when Jeff Kennett intoduced the statue policy?  Ironically, Kennett is now outraged over the Andrews statue, but that has to be down to sour grapes.

I used to walk past the statues quite regularly and they do provide an eye-catching artistic commentary of Victoria's political history.  I think that each of the statues captures the essence of its subject, with the exception of Albert Dunstan, who I wouldn't know from a bar of soap.  $134K is peanuts and Andrews is more worthy of a statue than the scandal-ridden Henry Bolte, with his disdain of social justice and penchant for manufacturing crises to achieve his political ends.
I believe it was uttered at the poll booth when he was ousted from his next term.

Either way, I wasnt old enough to vote at the time, as I was only 16 and in year 11, and definitely didnt notice this policy as I was busy following my hormones wherever they would lead me, and at the time, Carlton were actually good to watch so definitely couldnt have cared about statues.

But, whats a pittance here and there between pollies?  Its not like we have a runaway debt crisis, and severe financial storms.

No one mandated it had to be the case either, it was just a policy.  Something that can be cancelled at any time.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
The policy is a wank, but you should blame the Hon Jeff Kennett, who introduced the policy in 1999, thinking he was a shoo-in for a 3rd term and an ugly statue.

I would be curious to know how many taxpayers there are in Victoria, and what the actual cost would be to each of them. Bugger all I suspect. If nothing else, Andrews certainly deserves credit for being able to live rent free in his enemies' heads.

Where was the outrage when Jeff Kennett intoduced the statue policy?  Ironically, Kennett is now outraged over the Andrews statue, but that has to be down to sour grapes.

I used to walk past the statues quite regularly and they do provide an eye-catching artistic commentary of Victoria's political history.  I think that each of the statues captures the essence of its subject, with the exception of Albert Dunstan, who I wouldn't know from a bar of soap.  $134K is peanuts and Andrews is more worthy of a statue than the scandal-ridden Henry Bolte, with his disdain of social justice and penchant for manufacturing crises to achieve his political ends.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by crashlander -
It's not unusual for people getting older to think everything was better in days gone by!
Indeed. Most older people tend to live in the past, as the present starts to contract for them.
Unfortunately, it appears that the past has been significantly better than the present for Victoria, not just the fact that some of us are getting older.
Crime levels stand out to me. The police do seem overworked and under-resourced.
Last week I was involved in a car accident. An older gentleman appeared to have suffered some sort of medical episode, his car then accelerating into the side of my car, only to plow into the one in front of me, before accelerating through a red light, to hit another car front on. We had 3 police cars, an ambulance and a fire truck on site to deal with it. However, as there were no significant injuries, the police decided not to made an official report: too much work for something that insurance companies need only deal with.
I found this perplexing, to say the least. But, it was explained to me that the local police were simply too busy to worry about something where nobody was hurt and all of the parties agreed on what happened,