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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by LP -
BYD sell batteries, China always use the same tactics to kill the market then boost prices. The problem for them is India is now rapidly coming online as a competitor. I have Chinese business associates who have started buying India made to sell into China, because they tell me China can't compete on price and the only thing the China domestic market cares about is price. When the subsidies dry up, the market collapses at an astonishing rate.

btw., You can now purchase re-badged BYD under dozens of different brand names, each one gets cheaper and nastier.

Everyone I talk to tells me the new EV Mazdas are a cut above the accepted standards and sensibly priced, but that they too will struggle to compete in a cutthroat market.

There is a lot of argy-bargy in EV circles about hydrogen being dead / defeated, but it's just a hiatus, there have just been a series of R&D breakthroughs that will make hydrogen generation and transport cheaper and greener. It's going to appear in heavy transport and mass transit first, where depos are easily retrofit for refuelling, but it's inevitably coming to residential. The only thing slowing the uptake are the subsidies on batteries, and distribution.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The EV thread
Last post by kruddler -
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I saw some random youtube video on BYD and how they are heavily backed by the chinese government and its not sustainable and could potentially go bust if one of a couple things happen.
It was kinda just on in the background, but it seemed theoroughly researched and plenty of facts and figures based on annual figures etc etc.

Was a bit worrying as if any of it came to fruition, it would cause complete chaos to the car market.
BYD get looked after by the Chinese Government with subsidies and cheap state bank loans because they are seen as a national success story, they do have some debt but its not extreme.
Founder led listed business on the HK exchange and the Chairman who runs it is a keen CCP member with an interest in China's strategic position and hasnt had to have his arm twisted to align himself with Xi's directives.
Their sales figures have dropped at home but with Xi helping him out Id expect that to be mitigated and they will stay on top of the  EV heap while the brand stay aligned with the Government..

I think one of the issues would be if the Chinese government stopped subsidising them, they would crumble like a house of cards and just as quick.
I think sales figures have also been inflated, with 1000's of them being 'bought', but rusting away in a car park somewhere.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by LP -
In my teen years I worked and trained at an ICC where Gary worked and had his small cricket gear shop, and he also offered some coaching. I was a net bowler for the WSC crew. He hated being called Sir Gary or Sir Garfield, and would correct you in the gruff voice "Call me Gary!" When the WSC bowlers were being coached I'd get to have a bat, Gary would stand behind the net giving me tips. He was the exact opposite of most coaches, he didn't try to change your technique to make you look classical, he'd look at your strengths and weakness and work on them without trying to make you look like a Greg Chappell. The year after he started giving me free coaching I scored a double century in suburban cricket, I'd changed from an opening bowler low order batsmen to an opening batsmen all rounder.

I don't want to trigger anyone who might be a fan, but as good as he was at cricket he had a lot of troubles off the field, drinking was a big problem, I'm not sure he ever got the better of it. I believe he was arrested multiple time for D&D and also for domestic violence orders, really for all his fame it's quite a sad story. I talked to a police officer once who was standing the carpark when they come to "give him a lift", a euphemism I'm sure, he told me Sobers was his childhood hero but he couldn't see him in the same light, it sounds a bit like Winmar. I've meet Winamr too, and he seemed a terrific person, but I suppose we only ever get to see one side of life.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by Gointocarlton -
I only know of SGS from the old Gillete (I think) commercials where they said he became the first man to hit 6 sixes in an over in 1968. Even from that footage, he looked a very smooth mover (as all left handers generally do).
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Cricket thread
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
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RIP Sir Garfield Sobers.
Yes a very sad loss. He was one of my true heroes in my youth and I got to watch him on a couple of occasions. RIP.
Watched him make 250 odd for the world eleven vs Aus at the MCG, could do everything , bat, bowl pace, spin and was a brilliant fielder. I think Ian Chappell called him the best cricketer he played against....
RIP...
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Ladies Lounge / Re: VFLW 2026
Last post by crashlander -
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The girls had another very solid win.

Carlton:  1 - 4 - 10   4 - 5 - 29   8 - 8 - 56   10 - 8 - 68
Geelong:  3 - 0 - 18  3 - 1 - 19   4 - 1 - 25   4 - 2 - 26

A 48 point win.

Nailed the premiership quarter!
Indeed. In fact, we kept the Cats to 1 - 2 after quarter time, while piling on 9 goals ourselves. No AFLW players either: we actually played 3 debutants.
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Ladies Lounge / Re: VFLW 2026
Last post by crashlander -
The girls had another very solid win.

Carlton:  1 - 4 - 10   4 - 5 - 29   8 - 8 - 56   10 - 8 - 68
Geelong:  3 - 0 - 18  3 - 1 - 19   4 - 1 - 25   4 - 2 - 26

A 48 point win.