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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: post match dogs
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Baggers – on

Never did I see us allow any Dishlicker player 'walk through' our tackles.
I have no idea how anyone could miss it throughout the 1st half!

Even now retrospectively the stats post-game looked even, but in real time the top ranked to 1/2-time was Dog dominated. We were burning entries into F50, they were taking it end to end and wasting shots on goal, lucky for us.

So many contests, we outnumbered the Dogs at the fall of the ball, and that underDog won! I think a few even posted as much in the game thread, about our return to the bad ways!

What I will say is this, Derksen didn't work forward, what I won't claim is that he would've been any better than Weitering if Derksen had been in D50!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: post match dogs
Last post by Lods -
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I thought we looked slow and unbalanced with Weitering in the side.  Derkson or him, not both.
We'll be better with Young in the side this week.

How we use him will be interesting.
I want to see more of Derksen forward, but for this game it might be a better option to move Derksen  back into Haynes's spot and play Young as a forward/ruck.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: post match dogs
Last post by DJC -
The Bulldogs had 58 inside 50s to our 48.  That indicates a breakdown in team defence and significantly more pressure on our defenders, as does the Bulldogs 16 tackles inside 50.

Despite that, our defenders, ably led by Weiters, allowed the Bulldogs only ten marks inside 50 and prevented them from kicking a winning score.  Weiters took as many marks as the Doggies’ forwards did inside 50 but he did take several up the ground.  Our defenders grabbed 50 marks between them, most inside our defensive 50.

It’s our midfield coaches that need to address defensive deficiencies, not Ash Hansen.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: post match dogs
Last post by Thryleon -
Me too.

The Ed Richards would be winner came about because Weiters and Pittonet got into a screaming match and the Bulldogs played on quickly whilst Weiters was too busy pointing fingers and at least 3 other conversations were going on elsewhere as a result.

Luckily we got the next 2 scores, and tied the game up.

We laid 62 tackles to the bulldogs 55, but they had double the tackles inside 50 to ours of 16 vs 8.  The average of the afl comes in at 11.  So why did they manage to go to elite levels of forward 50 tackles?  Probably us welcoming pressure.

Weiters is a gun, but he often makes teamates go into their shells.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: post match dogs
Last post by Baggers -
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Quote from: madbluboy – on

Last week was the first time in a while we got opened right up. Weitering is too slow to be pushing that high up the ground. Lucky they didn't have their kicking boots on.
That's blaming the effect for being the cause.

The cause was 2 or 3 possessions earlier and 50m further away when the Dogs walked through our tackles like they we were giving them a pat on the back! It was the weakest effort for many months., Freijah, Libba, Kennedy, Richards, they had our lot rattled.

You have to ask yourself this question, how did the Dogs forwards find themselves surrounded by 50m of free space, and yet the Dogs mids strolled through the midfield largely untouched, where were all the players? If the Dogs F50 was so open, there should have been numbers, congestion and traffic further up the field, progress should have been slow, but they moved the footy freely! The Dogs got in their own way more than we did!

Seems we were watching different games, Spotted One. What I saw was the Dishlickers go after our strengths and succeed, to a degree... but we found a way to fight through this and level the scores - unheard of a few months ago. They had about 10 more inside fifties than us, yet our defense was able to minimize the impact. We were hunted and found wanting in a number of areas but still found a way to recover from a seven point deficit late in the game. So, credit to the Dishlickers and credit to us.

Learning how to deal with being hunted will be a part of our development.

Never did I see us allow any Dishlicker player 'walk through' our tackles.

Neither side in the second half was able to 'control' the game. And from a spectator perspective it was a ripper of a contest, flaws and mistakes included.

We're a work in progress with still a long way to go, as Frase has articulated clearly, on a number of occasions.

And I also saw what MBB pointed out, Weiters did often seem all at sea which disrupted our offensive efforts and run out of defense (launching attacks from defense), a strength of recent times.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: post match dogs
Last post by LP -
Quote from: madbluboy – on

Last week was the first time in a while we got opened right up. Weitering is too slow to be pushing that high up the ground. Lucky they didn't have their kicking boots on.
That's blaming the effect for being the cause.

The cause was 2 or 3 possessions earlier and 50m further away when the Dogs walked through our tackles like they we were giving them a pat on the back! It was the weakest effort for many months., Freijah, Libba, Kennedy, Richards, they had our lot rattled.

You have to ask yourself this question, how did the Dogs forwards find themselves surrounded by 50m of free space, and yet the Dogs mids strolled through the midfield largely untouched, where were all the players? If the Dogs F50 was so open, there should have been numbers, congestion and traffic further up the field, progress should have been slow, but they moved the footy freely! The Dogs got in their own way more than we did!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: post match dogs
Last post by madbluboy -
Quote from: pew2 – on
our defenders is the wrong way to look at things , we should be more looking at TEAM defence  players running back to fill the holes /spaces have you ever noticed how teams score easy goals against us 

Last week was the first time in a while we got opened right up. Weitering is too slow to be pushing that high up the ground. Lucky they didn't have their kicking boots on.