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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by kruddler -
@Paul, i think the issue is what Shawny is seeing locally and in the news and comparing that to the same area previously.
On that front he is right. The area is getting worse.
Whether that translates to victoria wide, not sure. Maybe all these crimes occuring there used to occur in a different area that has cleaned up its act, essentially handballing the problem further down the field in a game of hot potato
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pick our team in parts - Part 3 - 6x Starting forwards- CHOOSE 6!
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I don't consider the starting players any different to the interchange. Kemp will be on my bench because he can play anywhere.

The reason i'm doing it this way is
a) to work out where people believe players will start
b) to get a combined view on what our best team works out to be.

I had Kemp as a starter and will select HOK on the bench. You, it appears, have done it the opposite way. Either way, the end result will most likely be the same, both make the 23.

The bench will most likely capture some of those multipositional players that are yet to concrete a position in peoples minds.
eg Ollie Hollands. Half selected him for a wing. Half selected him for a HB role - he didn't get enough votes for either, but i suspect he will get picked on the bench as a result of the above.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pick our team in parts - Part 3 - 6x Starting forwards- CHOOSE 6!
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: DJC – on


Do the votes tally with the number of voters?

It’s entirely possible that I clicked on the wrong tab but I definitely didn’t vote.

Currently showing 8 people voted.
Currently showing 48 total votes - thats 6 each as required.

You get on the sauce and forget you voted??

That's certainly a possibility  :D  but I don't think so.

I definitely selected Motlop but was called away from the computer.  I'm pretty sure that I clicked the home button.

Anyway, I don't think it will make much difference to the outcome.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: DJC – on


You're point has absolutely no validity.

Any half-decent Australian politician from either of the major parties can stand up to the senile p1ssweak bully who is pretending to be the POTUS when he's not cheating at golf.  If you followed international affairs you would know that the Australian Government regularly takes an opposing and correct position to that of the USA.  The rest of the world has a playbook for effectively dealing with Taco, and Albo is one of the authors.

And Rudd, for all his flaws, has the balls to rightfully call out Taco as the village idiot.

Proof is in the pudding - when Trump raised what Rudd said (prior to Trump winning) their combined gigging and backflipping was as weak and childish a response as you get and not to mention cringe worthy.

You hate him we all get it but to imply our leaders can stand up to him is utter nonsense.

You need leaders with presence and backbone - the opposite of what we have in Oz and why the likes of Trump will walk all over us.

Stop listening to right wing podcasts and get some independent, factual information.  Taco and the US may be able to bully Venezuela but most first world nations, including Australia, are running rings around Taco.

Did we cave in to the US demands to scrap our pharmaceutical benefits scheme? Why then are our prescriptions still relatively cheap?

Have we lifted defence spending as Taco demanded?  The independent media headline "Albanese again pushes back on US demand for Australia to increase defence spending to 3.5% of GDP" suggests not.  Have we given any assurances in response to the US demand that we show our hand when China invades Taiwan? 

And who sold the JORN defence radar to Canada, gazumping a deal the US had been counting on?  Then there's our ongoing opposition to all of the craziness that's spilling out of Mar a Lago.

As for the press conference, it was discussed at the time that the whole thing was scripted and Rudd agreed to take a fall in order to give the impression that he was contrite.  At the end of the day, the Hon Dr Kevin Rudd AC is still the Ambassador of Australia to the United States and Taco is still the village idiot.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: shawny – on
In this case i don't care what media report or our head in the sand leader telling us everytime another stabbing is reported that the state is safe and great but as i was born with eyes and ears in this case I will trust what i see first hand and how bad things have rather then believe a left leaning publication that happens to be 4 months old. If you like i can send you 100s of links of articles saying the complete opposite but i know you will say its 'Fake news' being from the other direction.

Talk to those who live in the west or those that go out into the city after dark or talk to emergency service workers who are on the front line and ask them. There is no denying it - the wheel has turned to a point where Vics are leaving in droves to get out.  

Rather than poisoning the well, you should post those 100's of links and let me decide for myself. Also, I didn't realize Victoria's crime rate had spiraled out of control in the last 4 months.

That article is part of a 4 part series, and all 4 are well worth a read.

EDIT : I should also state that the main reason I post articles from The Conversation is that :
a : the authors are typically experts in their field, and
b: the articles frequently contain links to data, research, statistics and other articles that back up the claims being made.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
The solution to this violence problem is to support VicPol and it's actions, not undermine it, the problem for everybody at the moment is the left wing govnerment is basically creating and anti-police legal structure.

Add to that, many of the same people most loudly complaining about machetes and calling for vigilantism are the same ones throwing rocks at the police lines, it's ironic this weekend that many roll up to the Australia Protest, an event effectively organised and managed by a white neo-nazi New Zealander.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by LP -
Some only see what they want to see, and the right wing media only report what they want to see.

When Trump's loses a debate, deal or discussion, it's either not reported in the right wing media or they basically lie about the outcome. Most of Trump's winning isn't real, it's a fantasy, like any school yard bully he's all bluster and no substance.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: PaulP – on
https://theconversation.com/is-australia-becoming-a-more-violent-country-260102

In this case i don't care what media report or our head in the sand leader telling us everytime another stabbing is reported that the state is safe and great but as i was born with eyes and ears in this case I will trust what i see first hand and how bad things have rather then believe a left leaning publication that happens to be 4 months old. If you like i can send you 100s of links of articles saying the complete opposite but i know you will say its 'Fake news' being from the other direction.

Talk to those who live in the west or those that go out into the city after dark or talk to emergency service workers who are on the front line and ask them. There is no denying it - the wheel has turned to a point where Vics are leaving in droves to get out.