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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: DJC – on
A couple of months before my 15th birthday, my 23 year policeman brother and I were stabbed multiple times by a random 28 year old about 30 metres from our home in Coburg.

That was around the time of the Vic Market murders and the Ustaše terror attacks but before the likes of the Crevally Street Boys had us scared crapless.

But yeah, there was no violence back in the day.

Glad you and your brother got out of that situation with your lives, David.

Violence in Victoria today is just more reported on, and then pounced upon by opportunistic pollies and journalists with an agenda. And their answer: more punishment and incarceration. Sheesh, hasn't that worked well over the centuries.

One easy example of Victorian crime on the streets of Melbourne from the past... Razor gangs, and that was the 1920s! Numerous examples through the decades... and that's just the last century in Oz.

Disaffected and disenfranchised individuals have been around since time immemorial... and they congregate in gangs, then movements and so on.

Just a simple dive into human history and you'll find horrors on the streets and cities and towns over the centuries. And that's not to mention the prolific violence occurring in the family home, with so much not reported. The most dangerous creature in the animal kingdom is, humans.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by deepbluesee -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: deepbluesee – on

I understand everyone has their own reason/justification for leaving early and not wanting to judge anyone but I was very disappointed with the number of Carlton supporters that left early on Fri.
Sometimes miracles do happen and don't forget Jezza (the real one) once kicked 6 goals in 10 minutes.
Plus I wanted to be there to cheer our team off.
Go Blues in 2027 and beyond.
Mate I was sitting there in the rain in row G on level 1 for 75% of the game, and when we fell 50 points behind, that was my signal to go because me and the Mrs were getting wet, and whilst we all support the club, every single club has fans that leave early once the game is gone. 
Again, there are lots of good reasons for people to leave (weather being one) and I don't want to sound too critical (but I am I know). I was top level, under cover and lots were leaving from that section.
Just thought, being the last game as well as the great season finish, that the team deserved to be cheered off. More than anything, I was disappointed.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
I almost got stabbed on a Tram in Hawthorn by two drunk guys as a 14 year old.  Wrong place, wrong time, wrong people. 
Standing on a train platform at 10pm in Box hill is also something I dont recommend thanks to the drug and alcohol places around there.
Ive seen kids get in knife fights at the beach.
Ive seen people get beaten to a pulp.  No phone cameras, none of it reported to cops as it was all argy bargy.

Still, like I said, I have no data to back up anything is better, worse same. 

Now, its clips on Facebook, Youtube, instagram, tiktok.  It's in your pocket waiting to be shown to you the second you go doom scrolling. 

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The fact the government thought a buy back system of machettes was needed says it all.
Surely thats no evidence of anything but Governments responding to a perceived crisis?

Im a pretty well travelled individual.  Worked in one of the night clubs in the early 2000's, was going out clubbing during the 2000's when the underbelly stuff was all landing.

Most people were oblivious to the world.  I worked in Broadmeadows and Brooklyn.  Had mates that went to VU and lived in St. Albans.  Another mate grew up in Doveton. 

The less I write about those areas the better.

The world is the same place it used to be, but most of Melbourne had no idea.  I maintain that we are more aware of things today than we used to be, as you watched the news and saw it, or you didn't back then. Cars stolen 3 times from out the front of the family home in Burwood.  Ditto dads panel van in east Burwood. 

I remember leaving Princes Park after a game vs Geelong and coming across a fan who had way too much to drink and not quite feeling safe at 6pm on a sunday.

You either had a false sense of security or you didnt.

My anecdotal evidence is not evidence, but it suggests that whilst a lot of the people around me were blind to the world, my eyes were open to the reality that we are all just walking along feeling a lot safer than we think we are.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
A couple of months before my 15th birthday, my 23 year policeman brother and I were stabbed multiple times by a random 28 year old about 30 metres from our home in Coburg.

That was around the time of the Vic Market murders and the Ustaše terror attacks but before the likes of the Crevally Street Boys had us scared crapless.

But yeah, there was no violence back in the day.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Last post by blueboys_1 -
Quote from: Lods – on
While investigations continue there is no way any club should consider chasing the Swans players involved in the alleged incident.

And with no set time frame on those investigations the players will remain in limbo in terms of movement.
It may stretch well past the trade period.

It could be upto a year as was the case with the Geelong player who was only cleared in a similar case early this year I think.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
There was a lot of gang violence in the 80's and 90's that didnt hit the news.  More urban legends and myths than not, but fights near train stations were common place.

You reckon those things got reported to the police?

Yes there was crime back in the 80s no one is disputing that, but the fact remains it's very different now - I grew up in the northern suburbs and there were the local gangs hanging around the shops which caused issues if you picked on them but they did'nt randomly stab innocent citizens, werent doing home invasions or slicing you with machettes.

Its not the same today.  Innocent law abiding people are being randomly attacked with weapons and it's a daily occurrence that doesnt even raise an eyebrow anymore. 

Go for a drive into the western suburbs back streets at night and I bet you wouldn't feel safe casually walking around. And the fear is not you may get a punch to the face its a fear for your life - they are all armed have little money and are very dangerous if they think you have anything they can take. And they don't discriminate black, white, man women or child they will seriously assault anyone if there is even a small gain to be had

The fact the government thought a buy back system of machettes was needed says it all.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by shawny -
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Yeah I remember fondly back in the day riding dirt bikes around in groups in the middle.of the road, having sword fights after school and car shopping in Brighton on the weekend. Great times.

Yep  - we used to ride our pushies home once the street lights turned on without a care in the world.

Played kick to kick on the road during footy season with neighbors - then cricket down the driveway with the bin as stumps during cricket season.

Innocent, free and safe. 

Worst thing you saw was a fist fight to settle the more serious disputes and as soon as someone was losing it was broken up then shook hands and on went- very different these days sadly