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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
It always amazes me that definitive judgements are made on 19 year olds.

Who is making definitive judgements?

Ignoring everything about the individual player and just looking at where they are drafted, thats the conclusion you will come too. Later picks and rookie picks will struggle to make it.

Now back to the players, have they shown anything at this stage to buck that trend? Not really, they are showing about what their draft value suggests.
They might make it.
They might not.

Not definitive at all, just statistical analysis.

I actually wasn't even thinking about you....just the general tone of criticism of 20 year olds and unders...not just on here.
But you obviously have a guilty conscience to get upset by it. :D

You've been pretty dismissive of Billy Wilson and Cooper Lord.
Lets see how they go as the year progresses
By the way happy birthday to Cooper for the other day, who as he reaches his 21st must be well past it ;)  ;D
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: Adelaideblue – on
Understand the point you are making DJC & LP re how other recruiters rated Ben & Lucas for them to fall to picks 43 & 45, although I wonder if the fact that we held F/S rights wasn't a factor.

Not sure why they should be better suited back here at Port EB. Guess you are saying they are the type of player Port needs in their mix with Boaky gone. However, hopefully if given a reasonable chance we will find they are a "need' here!

Sometimes I wonder why as supporters we have to be so negative on young players who have hardly been looked at.  These guys, their family members must sometimes read this negativity. If so you we shouldn't be surprised if they do decide to go back from where they have come.  Why poke the bear with a stick? 
As has been said "Carlton supporters devour their own", if true not very smart. As supporters we are part of the fabric of a football club and need to play our part for the club to have success.

Well I guess I got that off my ...back !!
cheers AB

I think that it's more a matter of patience and realism than negativity AB.

I'd much rather see Ben and Lucas taking their time, building strength and endurance, and learning the ropes than being dropped in at the deep end. Lucas has had a taste and showed that he wasn't out of place.  Ben would have had his taste but for a suspension and his time will come.

From their changed physiques, training footage, and their teammates comments, they've both worked hard over the off-season.  Let's see how they go when the VFL kicks off,
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Adelaideblue -
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
It always amazes me that definitive judgements are made on 19 year olds.

Who is making definitive judgements?

Ignoring everything about the individual player and just looking at where they are drafted, thats the conclusion you will come too. Later picks and rookie picks will struggle to make it.

Now back to the players, have they shown anything at this stage to buck that trend? Not really, they are showing about what their draft value suggests.
They might make it.
They might not.

Not definitive at all, just statistical analysis.

Some would say your post 18 March 2026 , was sounding fairly definitive (& rather harsh) Mr Kruds: -

The campo twins never came highly rated.
We all have expectations that they can live up to their old man, but not likely.

TBH, i don't think they will make it, and if the old man is causing an issue now, perhaps we show them the door sooner rather than later. Perhaps they'd be better off following his footsteps and pissing off to Essendon, they'd probably get a game there.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Professer E – on
Well if we produce Li2O at $4 a pound, and somebody who doesn't pay their workers sells for $2 a pound, then how does the local producer survive?

Swings and roundabouts....and averages.

In times like this it might cost you $10!
.....as well as everything else.

We need to produce local, be encouraged to buy local and stop selling off our resources at bargain basement prices.

If we gave ourselves discounted power, gas etc. We could afford to spend more on local.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods – on
It always amazes me that definitive judgements are made on 19 year olds.

Who is making definitive judgements?

Ignoring everything about the individual player and just looking at where they are drafted, thats the conclusion you will come too. Later picks and rookie picks will struggle to make it.

Now back to the players, have they shown anything at this stage to buck that trend? Not really, they are showing about what their draft value suggests.
They might make it.
They might not.

Not definitive at all, just statistical analysis.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: northernblue – on
Are subsidies where you really want to go ?

We can either charge others a premium for our stuff, gas etc.

Which means we can give our own companies a break so we can survive in times like these.

Or we can continue to be so reliant on others that our whole country tips upside down at every conflict, outbreak or whim.

We have everything we need here. We need to do something to create some stability.

What other options do we have?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
We are not really a development club, we prefer our kids at a more readymade level.
Development and the need for instant and sustainable success every year only allows for kids like Walsh, Smith and probably Walker who can walk in round 1 and look the part. Kids on slow burn tend to end up in the twos vegetating and treading water until their contracts run out and the cycle starts again..