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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Kouta was amazing in top flight, but some of his ordinary games detract from his legacy.

Cripps...  I have to say, he has been bloody good and of his 250 games, I reckon less than 5% are bad ones.

2 x brownlow medallist puts him in Greg Williams territory, and the knock on his kicking doesnt really detract from his legacy.  He is in rare air, and dont ask me who Cripps goes past in the pantheon of Carlton greats, but he is easily in the top percentile.   If he jagged a flag as captain, then he would instantly become a top 5.


I think Cripps is already top 5, and also agree on Kouta. If you take his career in toto, there's a lot of ordinary games after his peak. When you add in his shenanigans with Pagan and what is IMO poor leadership, I think he must lose additional brownie points.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Kouta was amazing in top flight, but some of his ordinary games detract from his legacy.

Cripps...  I have to say, he has been bloody good and of his 250 games, I reckon less than 5% are bad ones.

2 x brownlow medallist puts him in Greg Williams territory, and the knock on his kicking doesnt really detract from his legacy.  He is in rare air, and dont ask me who Cripps goes past in the pantheon of Carlton greats, but he is easily in the top percentile.   If he jagged a flag as captain, then he would instantly become a top 5.


Kouta in full flight at the peak of his powers, no one comes close.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by dodge -
Yes Shawny, that is true, but don't think it's tax free.  Once upon a time, I think 2 terms gave you a parliamentary pension.

They are the rules, it doesn't matter who they are or what they did.  It won't be long before no one is eleigible - my quick search was 5 (excl Jacinta):

Lily D'Ambrosia (Lab)
David Davis (Lib)
Kim Wells (Lib)
Peter Walsh (Nat)
Adem Sumyurek (Ind)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: How does Crippa rank among the panoply of Carlton greats?
Last post by Thryleon -
Kouta was amazing in top flight, but some of his ordinary games detract from his legacy.

Cripps...  I have to say, he has been bloody good and of his 250 games, I reckon less than 5% are bad ones.

2 x brownlow medallist puts him in Greg Williams territory, and the knock on his kicking doesnt really detract from his legacy.  He is in rare air, and dont ask me who Cripps goes past in the pantheon of Carlton greats, but he is easily in the top percentile.   If he jagged a flag as captain, then he would instantly become a top 5.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: shawny – on
Need someone to fact check - heard Jacinta will earn circa annually $300K TAX FREE for the rest of her life. WOW if true

Sigh, it looks like it has some truth to it:

The Premier of Victoria's post-role retirement benefits depend heavily on when they were first elected, with long-serving veteran leaders eligible for a lucrative legacy defined-benefit pension scheme, a taxpayer-funded salary exceeding $530,000 while in office, and potential post-office transition support.Legacy Defined-Benefit PensionsPre-2004 Rule: Ministers and members elected to the Victorian Parliament before the closure of the generous defined-benefit scheme in 2004 can receive lifetime taxpayer-funded annual pensions.Estimated Payouts: Former long-serving leaders like Daniel Andrews or former premier Jacinta Allan are estimated to qualify for annual lifetime payouts upwards of $240,000 to $300,000 per year, determined by the length of service and high-office portfolios held.Modern Standard: Newer members elected after 2004 do not access this legacy scheme and instead rely on standard accumulation superannuation arrangements.Salary and AllowancesCurrent Pay Rate: Following determinations by the Victorian Independent Remuneration Tribunal, the total salary and allowances package for the Victorian Premier sits above $530,000 per year, making it among the highest for any state leader in Australia.

https://www.news24.com.au/politics/australian-politics/former-premier-jacinta-allan-to-walk-away-from-politics-on-pension-worth-more-than-200000-per-year-when-she-retires/news-story/ddca585357690e5aa99b17a6072c026c

According to an estimate of Ms Allan’s pension scheme, based on roles and portfolios, she could retire on between $240,000 to $270,000 per year.