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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
Last post by Gointocarlton -
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Given that Harry is out, it might be a good time to bring Ison in. Not as a direct replacement, but it'd allow others to shift one up. So Kemp could be Harry and Ison could be Kemp.

Same logic could be used on Moir who we'd likely get more of a return from.

We need to keep checking in with Moir often to see if he 'gets it' yet, because the moment he does, he'll turn games.
I'd be going hard on him in the off-season getting his running up a notch. I'd like to see him get to a stage where he could give a chop out in the middle/on a wing and rest forward. We could use his skills further up the ground.
Bit over Kemp and to a lesser extent Harry.
I want to try something different , thought Hayward played his best game vs the Pies and worked hard and I'd be wanting same from Moir with Ison my more stay at home forward.
If it were me, I'd try Hayward on the ball to add some smarts and speed.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
Last post by Lods -
Reidy's probably a definite in with Pittonet out.
It's his old club.
He would have rucked against Jackson so it won't be a surprise for him.
That could be a good or bad thing.

I like the idea of Derksen in the forward line.
Just by the nature of his acquisition he'll probably be on shaky ground at the end of the year so he'll be looking to show his versatility.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Fremantle in Perth
Last post by crashlander -
Already we've lost Pittonet to hand surgery and Elijah Hollands. We've lost H to concussion.
We've also lost the Camporeale twins, so they're not going to go to Perth.

It looks like Reidy is going to be our ruck. He is going to want to show something against his old mob, but he is up against a good, jumping ruck. That does not bode well.
Derksen looks like he may well be our CHF, although he could be required to match Freo's 3 tall forwards.

This is looking particularly ugly.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting AFL Rd 6 2026 Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by crashlander -
AFL Rd 6 2026   Carlton vs Collingwood

Team:   C+
I don’t normally score a loss this high, but we were the better team for most of the day. When we were overtaken, we struck back and should have drawn the game at the very least.
And, to be honest, any kudos our guys should get for their performance is now going to overshadowed by the disaster that was Elijah Hollands’ game. Instead of being remembered for what it was, it will be remembered for that.

I don’t normally watch much of Channel 9’s footy show, but the fact that they only mentioned Collingwood players, other than Elijah turned me off completely. We won most positions on the field, and yet all that hard work is forgotten by a bunch of idiots who only looked at the last quarter and still couldn’t see the effort we put in to get back into the game.
But then, I don’t put any faith in the media these days. They wouldn’t recognize a good performance if it kicked them in the head.

Votes:
[1.5]   Sam Walsh
[1.5]   Zac Williams
[1.5]   Matt Carroll
[1.5]   Harry McKay
[1.5]   Mitch McGovern
[1.5]   Patrick Cripps
[1]   Marc Pittonet
[1]   Jacob Weitering
[1]   Ben Ainsworth
[1]   Will Hayward
[1]   Ollie Florent
[0.5]   Nic Newman
[0.5]   Lewis Young

Explanations:
[1.5]   Sam Walsh:      I was impressed by Walsh. He showed some real leadership today. He managed 28 disposals, 7 tackles and 4 clearances in a solid display.
[1.5]   Zac Williams:      Zac managed 26 disposals, 4 tackles and 2 clearances in a really strong game.
[1.5]   Matt Carroll:      Playing more on a wing, Matt Carroll played one of his better games to date. 17 possessions and 2 goals were a good return. I might have ranked him higher if his last 2 shots at goal were better. For a good kick, to have 2 deliberate shots for 1 point really hurt us.
[1.5]   Harry McKay:      The most effective forward on the ground, H destroyed his opponent. Only our inability to get the ball near him, and his poor kicking stopped him from a great game. How he didn’t get a free when he was concussed also defies imagination.
[1.5]   Mitch McGovern:   Mitch just couldn’t get near it early, but he really lifted when we needed it. 3 goals and 4 tackles show his improvement this year.
[1.5]   Patrick Cripps:      Cripps couldn’t buy a free, but that is another tale. He still managed 25 possessions, 6 tackles and 5 clearances in what wasn’t his best game.
[1]   Marc Pittonet:      Marc remains as lion-hearted as ever, taking on 2 rucks and getting the better of them for most of the day. Unfortunately, it was Steene’s ability to jump over Pitto that proved the difference in the last quarter. But Marc still fought back!
[1]   Jacob Weitering:   Totally dominated his opponent.
[1]   Ben Ainsworth:   A solid contribution with 2 great goals. Always dangerous.
[1]   Will Hayward:      I wouldn’t say that Hayward had a great game, but he was a contributor who did some really good things. Much better than he has been recently.
[1]   Ollie Florent:      23 disposals, 2 clearances and 4 tackles showed that Florent had probably his best game in our colours.
[0.5]   Nic Newman:      Still not back to his best, but Nic is getting better each week. He managed 24 possessions and 4 tackles.
[0.5]   Lewis Young:      Had a job to do in defence and did it pretty well. His ruck work early in the game was problematical, but it was much better later.

Honourable Mentions:
Harry Dean:      Dean shows a lot for such a young defender. Can’t helped but be impressed, even though he didn’t get as much as he usually does.
Ollie Hollands:      Wasn’t that bad, even though he was flogged in the last quarter. Still, his first 3 quarters were more than acceptable.
Brodie Kemp:      Dynamic early, Kemp really fell away. I think the occasion got to him, as he stopped do the fundamentals as well as he had. His kicking for goal was a major reason we didn’t win.
Jagga Smith:      Jagga didn’t have the influence this week, but he still managed 20 possessions, 4 clearances and 3 tackles. I would really like to see him work on his body strength as a number of his tackles were broken.
Adam Cerra:      Quite a lot of the ball, but mostly ineffective. Cerra’s disposals and decision making were just not what he can produce.
Lachie Cowan:   Like Cerra, Lachie got a fair bit of the ball, but he wasn’t holding his marks and his decision making was deplorable at times. Still, 20 possessions and 2 tackles was reasonable.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Award 2026
Last post by crashlander -
AFL 2026 Rd 5:   Carlton vs Adelaide
I've left the voting thread open for longer, because of the short week. But, losing turns voters off, and another fail hurts.

Trends:
[1]   There were 10 voters this round, which is a considerable fall off from our opening game. Nichevo. When we lose, it is difficult to get voters to care enough to vote, especially when we don't show that we've learnt anything from those losses.
 Please do voteplease do vote, win, lose or draw: it is something we appreciate and it makes our statistics a lot more reliable. And our statistics hold up pretty well when it comes to John Nicholls Medal night!

[2]   The rating was a 7.33, which represents a D+, shows just how frustrated our voters are this week. Considering that the rating was our 2nd best for the year just shows how dissatisfied we've become.

[3]   17 players managed a mention again this week. Clearly, almost everyone of doing something, enough to get noticed, just not enough to get us over the line. :(

[4]   The average vote this week was 24, which is also our 2nd best for the year. Scores are around 30 when we win, so read into that what you will.

[5]   For the second week in a row 4 players managed 100 votes or more. But...

[6] Sam Walsh was BOG for the 3rd time this season with 246 votes. He was followed by Pittonet, Cripps and Haynes.

[7]   Two players managed votes from everyone this week, Cripps and Walsh. Pittonet missed from one voter.

[8]   It was hard to determine a trend among the vote getters this week, as so many of our players did something. However, 3 of our midfield players were among our top 4, so I'll say that our mids were our best division.

[9]   The Hollands brothers and Matt Carroll were probably our most effective youngsters on the night. What a sad reflection that is at the moment, especially with a cloud now firmly over Elijah's future.

Votes:
Walsh, Sam   246
Cripps, Patrick   187
Pittonet, Marc   165
Haynes, Nicholas   114
Carroll, Matthew   95
Hollands, Oliver  66
Hollands, Elijah   44
McGovern, Mitchell   44
Newman, Nicholas   33
Ainsworth, Ben   33
Florent, Oliver   33
Young, Lewis   15
Evans, Francis  7
McKay, Harrison   7
Cerra, Adam   4
Smith, Jagga   4
William, Zac   4


Progressive Voting:
Walsh, Sam  977
Pittonet, Marc  642
Patrick Cripps  446
Hollands, Elijah  426
Smith, Jagga  401
Mitch McGovern  385
Weitering, Jacob  339
Hollands. Ollie   232
Matthew Carroll   193
Ainsworth, Ben  148
Lord, Cooper  144
William, Zac  122
Haynes, Nick  114
Florent, Oliver  94
Newman, Nic   91
Kemp, Brodie  90
Hewett, George  75
Young, Lewis   69
Dean, Harry  51
Byrne, Talor  34
Harry McKay  30
Boyd, Jordan   27
Cowan, Lachie  24
Evans, Francis  16
Cerra, Adam  16
Will Hayward  8


Sam Walsh is the early leader, ahead of Marc Pittonet!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by kruddler -
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I was not at the game so have not seen any of his shots. Harry has his own anxiety with kicking for goals. He is much better from a distance when he can kick through the ball. Since he started kicking round the corner from close distance he seems to of lost confidence in his kicking. It does my head in when I see a player kicking around the corner from close range. When I was a kid the norm was a torp from any distance or angle. One that stands out is twiggy dunn in the GF I think kicking a torp from 50 and it going straight over the umpires head. If anyone can find any stats on his conversion rate say from 0 - 30 and 30 - 50 it would make interesting reading I would say.
I was surprised to see that Harry did not use his usual 'around the corner' technique when kicking for goal from set shots.  In some cases the kicks were from the left hand side of the goals so that was understandable but there was one (or two) where he kicked a straight-forward drop punt from position/s where he would have usually kicked 'around the corner'. They were quite straight kicks that didn't miss by much but the fact that he didn't go 'around the corner' suggested that he might have been acting under instructions to not do so.

Yes, the one early on deep in the LH pocket where he simply went a drop punt was odd.

If anything he has 'overcorrected' and trying to kick everything 'too straight'.
I can't think of anyone else who would've gone the drop punt from the angle he was on, even if they were right footed. Certainly not for a left footer.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Thryleon -
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Re: E. Hollands - what a freakin’ disgrace. Amateur hour at Carlton like it has been for 30+ years. I’m a former project manager so I want to see the club’s:

Risk Management Plan for player health.

Stakeholder Management Plan showing roles and responsibilities (RACI = Responsible, Accountable, Consulted, Informed. There should only be one ‘A’).

An Issues Management Plan. Usually a flowchart with various ‘STOP’ points. e.g. (for my son) Has mouthguard? Yes = continue, No = STOP

Escalation Management Plan. Can also be a flowchart. Make EVERYONE feel empowered to speak up. If someone brings an issue to a ‘higher up’ they MUST escalate it up the chain until the ultimate arbiter makes a call. For medical issues it would be the club doctor. If something like this was in place it avoids the ‘not my problem’ scenario or post-incident finger pointing.

There’s many more tools and procedures but they’re the bare minimum. If the club can’t produce these for the AFL then I’d be happy to see the book thrown at them.

Agree and standing front and square IMO is Voss. Considering he coaches from the bench (or plays solitare on his laptop from the bench) you seriously would have to be brain dead to not pick up on the young man's condition. Lij has a history of substance abuse and yet our head coach is oblivious to his state till half-way through the last quarter. Any half component coach would have looked into his state when the stats said he was zero touches in a half and if he did that but didn't notice then he should resign. 

Yet another cross against him and hopefully the final nail and he is not up it like many on our list.
we've appointed a list manager as boss.

We've seen this before with ratten. 

Our club was once known as the professionals. We've been asleep at the wheel since dick pratt died. 

Sure sack the coach, our problems run deeper, and we'll be here in 5 years again.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 6 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by northernblue -
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Thanks RR. As I said was not at the game and with recent history of his kick round the corner close in maybe the club have said enough is enough. About time if so!!!!

Maybe thats true but he kicked 1 goal 4 or 5. It didn't work.  PS  On goal kicking Josh Daicos said that he was watching the ball drop and commented that it was off, he didn't have to look where it went.  Who teaches this stuff?

If Harry feels comfortable I’ll have him kicking at goal right foot snap over his shoulder…
Kicking the way someone else is telling him to isn’t working is it ?