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Thry mentioned supply and demand....which is the key to all things economic.

In terms of housing though, its not the lack of housing, its the cost.
Its too high to buy a house....and/or land.
So if you drop the price so that people entering the market can afford something, investors who have some coin to play with look at buying a 2nd, 3rd, 46th property. So the price is increased and 1st home buyers miss out again.

You need to increase the 1st home buyers grant to a point where it is significant in helping people get into the market.

Quote from: Thryleon – on May 14, 2026, 02:18:11 pm

What has been our number 1 issue?

Culture.

Retiring blokes ahead of time, trading blokes for shiny new objects, simply creates the next batch of people who do a Jack Silvagni, Tom De Koning and Charlie Curnow.

WE as an organisation, need to prove that this is not a place for careers to come and die. 

Yes, I believe we have a culture issue in the club too but it is coming from our leaders, not the rank & file.

Persisting with old players who are either past it or not playing to the level required (i.e. just don't give a feck) has a strong ripple effect too.

We kept gifting games to guys like Murphy & Gibbs when they didn't deserve it, everyone else became complacent & lived in the comfort zone.

Time to make a strong stand in this area.

Play some of the younger guys each week, give them 3-4 games and then back to the magoos, at the end of the season, the list management team will be in a much better position to make an informed decision.

What has been our number 1 issue?

Culture.

Retiring blokes ahead of time, trading blokes for shiny new objects, simply creates the next batch of people who do a Jack Silvagni, Tom De Koning and Charlie Curnow.

WE as an organisation, need to prove that this is not a place for careers to come and die. 

EB -  if you are share trading, then it is a business and you don't have capital gains to offset losses against?

If you are an investor and sell shares that make a capital loss to offset those making a gain, it would be impossible to legislate against that and foolish to try.

The modelling would be interesting on the 45%, EB - that kicks in with income over $190k.  How long is an investment property held for, what the average gain/loss is and how the grandfathering rules affect what the calculated gain/loss is.

Understand growth v dividend shares, as dividend shares will be closer to CPI in growth than those that are start ups/growth shares.

I suppose my final question is (to the relief of a few, I'm sure) is:  In Australia, the more you make, the more you are taxed. If you have taken a (calculated) risk by investing and made a profit on the investment when it is sold, what is the ideal amount of tax to pay on this profit (noting that capital losses can only be offset against capital profits) - also noting that the average tax rate of someone on $190k is 28% and the company tax rate is 25%?

You can get rid of anyone if you bring in good replacements.

Quote from: kruddler – on May 14, 2026, 02:03:25 pm

I think we spoke about this the other day.

I say we keep those types and trade off ones we get value in - eg Cripps, Harry, Weiters.
No point sacking old blokes because they are old. It doesn't help.
You 'sack' (trade) old blokes who get you something via trade to help improve your younger crop.

No point giving the old blokes a contract extension too, if they are out of contract then there is nothing to be gained by keeping all of them around.

Quote from: Thryleon – on May 14, 2026, 01:47:46 pm

Yeah lets retire players early again, that will make players want to come to us and we can cut their careers short too!

Okay then, let's perservere with serial offenders who should be in a retirement village.

We have a gaggle of young players on the list who we genuinely don't know if they are worth keeping or not. The only way to find out is by drop-feeding them through the seniors and see how they respond.

And if you are concerned about what effect that may have on our chances of winning a game, then have a look at the current win/loss columns on the ladder, we are third last with one solitary win against the bottom tean by a mere 4-points.

We have played all of the old coots all season and look where that has got us.

FMD, an interim coach is not going to magically turn us into a raging finalist overnight.

As for players not wanting to come to the club ............ BFD, we are going to the draft first off, they have no say in it. As for potential trades, if they don't want to come, once again, BFD !!

Down the track when we are a threat again, we will remind them how they knocked us back as we bury them into the turf.