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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
Whatever it is, it is.  The Palestinians might have wanted to think harder about their musical festival stance a couple of years ago.

IMHO, you dont provoke the bear and then complain when it attacks.  Sure, let's not go all out and bomb innocent children and women, but the anniversary of a certain event just past in greek history.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_of_Zalongo

The women and children are always impacted in these power struggles but of not for growing independence from ottoman rule would it have occurred?  Their options were, pay the jizziah (spelling), convert to Islam and bow to ottoman rule or protect their ideology and become martyrs.

This isnt a condoning of it.  Its just reality. A price paid to secure independence from ottoman rule. Thing is, there are no guarantees and that doesnt guarantee an outcome.

  These things are going to happen and continue happening and whilst we live in easy prosperous times, wait until resources become scarce and watch what happens.  This wont be about religion.  Its always been about the supply chain of important goods, but when you have people squabbling over borders and territory the unfortunate wash out is the innocents become displaced.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by crashlander -
Quote from: LP – on
When you watch this morning rubbish tactics, sh1zen bowling to sh1zen batsmen, you can understand why people have become disillusioned with Test Cricket. FFS, it's like D-Grade cricket tactics, and it's being lauded on the broadcast by former captains like it is revolutionary!

Also, how Green topped the IPL auction can only be a confirmation that marketing spin and corruption dominate performance.
We seem to have some idea what we're doing to top order batsmen, but no idea how to deal with tail enders. Look at the runs Archer has made this summer!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
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its war.

In war there are winners and losers.
Even in war, win or lose, combatants go to trial and often jail for targeting and killing women and children, I think the legal name for it is genocide!

As an aside I have some very good friends who are Iranian, they had to flee their own country due to radicals, leaving behind a beautiful family home with hundreds of years of heritage. For people here to look at them and label them amongst the same radicals that they had to flee, radicals who destroy their country, is also in my opinion criminal and racist. But that is what some including local Israeli lobbyists do on a daily basis, they claim my friends have no place in Australia because of the behaviour of criminals back in the country they had to flee.

Blokes like Frydenberg and Netanyahu seem to willfully ignore the hypocrisy of that behaviour just for political point scoring, and destroy any unity the world has managed to build in the process. But there are crooks on both sides, there are just as many Imans guilty of this as there are Israeli politicians.

That psalm or proverb, or whatever you want to call it, about casting the first stone, it's a wise set of words and I suspect it exists for a reason, somebody somewhere learned a lesson and didn't ignore it.
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Last post by LP -
When you watch this morning rubbish tactics, sh1zen bowling to sh1zen batsmen, you can understand why people have become disillusioned with Test Cricket. FFS, it's like D-Grade cricket tactics, and it's being lauded on the broadcast by former captains like it is revolutionary!

Also, how Green topped the IPL auction can only be a confirmation that marketing spin and corruption dominate performance.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by Thryleon -
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Netanyahu is within rights to steam roll palestine and solve that problem once and for all,
Surely nobody, neither side in this dispute and nobody in any dispute, has the right to target facilities or take actions that cause the collateral death of children and infants, either directly or indirectly.

Target military, terrorists and gorillas all you like, but stay away from civilians and children.
its war.

In war there are winners and losers.

These days this stuff kicks off, and then state there needs to be a peaceful outcome.

There is no peaceful outcome for the loser unless they assimilate to the invading party.

Let this thing kick off rather than have a bunch of "now now, play nice" and pretend that one side is better than the other.  There is no better.  Its just two nations at war. 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Netanyahu is within rights to steam roll palestine and solve that problem once and for all,
Surely nobody, neither side in this dispute and nobody in any dispute, has the right to target facilities or take actions that cause the collateral death of children and infants, either directly or indirectly.

Target military, terrorists and gorillas all you like, but stay away from civilians and children.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Lods -
You can follow any rules you like to make up. ;)
I don't control your posting.

But it's all pretty futile
You're not going to change my mind
I'm not going to change yours

I think we've both exhausted any arguments.
We seem to go over the same points over and over....across a number of threads
I'm not convinced by any of your arguments, although I can see the points you're trying to make.
I just don't agree with them.
I just see them as worst case....with little regard given to the issues that have impacted the club's performance the last two years.
You're obviously not convinced by any of mine.

You think we'll be worse
I think we'll be the same or better

Injuries will play a part.
Depth will play a part.
Luck will play a part.
Development of young players will play a part.
How we cover our losses will play a part.
How the new players gel will play a part.
Off field issues may play a part.

There are enough variables there that either one of us could end up right.
So it's over to the players to determine the outcome.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by kruddler -
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Hang on!
You can't have it both ways.
You can't say 2023 is SOS's team and then in the next breath say Austin has had six years.
The only one moving  goal posts around is your good self. ::)

All list managers build on their predecessors list to some extent.
Cripps and Docherty were part of that for Silvagni so was Ed Curnow
You can't just dismiss the players that Austin added for 2023.
And the real fruits of Austin's tenure are yet to hit their peak.

lol.....i'm trying to follow YOUR rules and you won't let me.

If i'm trying to follow my rules, you wont let me.

Why am i not surprised.

Current list management team is infallable. Now i see the light.  ::)  ::)  ::)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: List Building - More than one way to skin a cat
Last post by Thryleon -
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So are you saying our list manager had built a side capable of winning a flag :D  :D

Potentially....but our previous one...
cant praise sos and condemn Austin when Saad, acres and cerra were the needle movers for us in 2023 and all of them were brought in by Austin. Could argue Hewett as well but we'll call him a dead heat with Kennedy.

They all had nothing to do with sos.