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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: kruddler – on
I don't get all the hate for boyd.
Clearly not rated by the mc.
Not well liked by our own supporters.

I don't know if it's got to do with him painting his nails or something equally nonsensical, but a his user of the ball who likes getting physical and flying the flag is something we could use at afl level right now.

To me he looks to play better at afl level. Maybe it's the pristine surfaces of afl over vfl that helps his kicking, but given newman, saad, cowan, carroll (williams?) All out and/or struggling....give him a go

I don't think there's a lot of "hate for Boyd." This little black duck much prefers Boyd to Saad... for starters his defensive game is much better... he has a passion for the contest, and his body isn't crumbling! And he can kick on both sides of his body.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: Thryleon – on
We can talk about these guys until the cows come home, but our issues lie with the following players.

Kemp
Young
McKay
Saad
Mcgovern
Fogarty
In this game cripps
Reidy
Williams

Yep, trying to do new things with older blokes with bad habits and ignoring the future of the club with promising younguns is just silly... conservative, risk-averse selections.

I disagree with you on H and Kemp. One game is too little a sample size to judge them, yet. Before Kemp did his achilles he was finally beginning to deliver on potential. I still wonder if his best position might not be inside mid. He's strong and quick.

H is a confidence player and will take time. But he'd better get a wriggle on.

Don't know what to do with Williams, to be honest.

I hope Crippa answers his critics. Against the Fluffy Ducks, our midfield was slow, way too slow and taken apart in the 2nd half.

Young, Saad, McGovern and Fogarty are not the future.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Practice Match vs Footscray 6th March
Last post by Thryleon -
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Quote from: Baggers – on
Despite the scoreboard, there were names positively mentioned in that summary that we should buoyed by: Boyd, Byrne, Camporeale boys, Carroll, Cowan and Young. Good, also, that Acres got some game time.

Yes, we were clearly the better team. There seems to be a mini trend where both AFL and VFL teams play good footy and cannot capitalize.


Hopefully that worm will turn.

In every sport where the results arent going your way the in game trends are more important.  In this one better kicking for goal and its a landslide win.

That wasn't true of our seniors the other night but we'll see.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by Thryleon -
Saad hurt his hamstring and may not play again. He was playing OK till then but he's just another old player we dont get enough from. 

Docherty retired early i thought.  Hes a top player who was coming back from significant injury and it was the desire that retired him.  Why?  Im guessing he didn't see a future in the team at the minute and just jumped before we pushed him. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Thryleon -
We can talk about these guys until the cows come home, but our issues lie with the following players.

Kemp
Young
McKay
Saad
Mcgovern
Fogarty
In this game cripps
Reidy
Williams

Reidy is the only one finding his feet at the level.  The rest gave us an average performance at best. 

You simply wont win many games when these guys are not among your better performers week in and week out.  Why?  Well, its simply a demographic thing.

Chesser i thought was rubbish in his first hit out with us, but he too but he's got some time up his sleeve.

The others we arent getting enough from as senior players.  Haynes (injured), Newman (injuries), acres, cotters.   Its fine to have older blokes around but you cant get average from the top end of your list.

We are focussing on our 20 year old second and third year players but the reality is its not them letting us down.

Sure be negative about Wilson. Lord (who still racked up a bigger fantasy football score than 3/4 of the team on Thursday) because they arent much better than bentick, but i reckon its the lack of reliable footballers on our list that hurt us. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 1 2026 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond
Last post by crashlander -
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Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Id have Boyd in for the injured Saad..
To me Saad has been very disappointing now for the best part of two seasons. He seems to have lost the desire and it appears to be the same cycle that he showed just before he came to Carlton. Opposition have worked out his one-sided approach and he's not got a trick left to surprise anyone.

I had hoped a season opener during Ramadan might be his making for 2026, because I think in previous Ramadan's he has gone up a level, but this was a bad start. I think he's got a tough year ahead.
To be honest, I'd like to see us try Saad in some different roles. Certainly, opposition coaches know what he provides in the backline.
With him probably unavailable, I would be using Boyd. I'd like Cowan, but he needs some game time yet.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: laj – on
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He got through 2025 pretty unscathed.
But had 5 hamstring injuries in a 12 month period prior to that.
Out again now with a hamstring.
Is that issue solved or ongoing.
Will he be straight back in or have to spend some time in the VFL.

Just on Jagga...he was good, but there were times that he was also guilty of some rushed and scrappy disposal and easily brushed aside.


In Jagga's case, a few nerves probably kicked in, hence the rushed disposal. That'll soon change.
He had 6 turnovers but thats very forgivable in your 1st full real game and as you say they were rushed kicks due to nerves and some quality opposition who were hunting our players after half time and his comrade senior players and leaders were giving us nothing but donuts during the onslaught so he was on his own and must have wondered what he got himself into.
He is a light bodied player too and was brushed aside at times and thats going to take a couple of preseasons to remedy  and probably why his mate Sam Lalor was picked at No 1 because he was a readymade.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: VFL Practice Match vs Footscray 6th March
Last post by crashlander -
CARLTON             2.8       2.9       3.16      6.22 (58)
FOOTSCRAY       4.1       8.4       10.6      12.7 (79)

GOALS
Carlton: Young, Harvey, Magor, Ison, Carroll, Gresham

What worries me:
[1] HOK looks like he is starting the year poorly. His marking has dropped off and his ruck work has regressed. That is a pity, as he has a better leap than Pitto or Reidy. His contested marking last year was very good.
This means we don't get 1st dibs as often as I'd like.

[2] We don't seem to be able to keep guys at the club. That means we always start the year with a significant getting-to-know-you phase. Now that we've got Tucker, I hope he can hand around for a while. Similarly with guys like Hogg.

[3] With a lack of key forwards in the ones, we're going to have similar problems with the 2's.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Lods -

Jagga had a good debut  no doubt. He will improve even more with experience and maturity and the kid will probably end up a champion  but they're young guys  him and Lord...and another two or three years could make a big difference to both of them.
Lord may never be anything but a good footsoldier. I'll back him to at least reach that level...and that may be all we need him to be. We have many premiership players who were good footsoldiers.