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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
8 million dollar Medicare fraud committed by detainees at the Melbourne immigration centre and they were given Visa's and bail plus allowed out into the community. Detainee tip...So if you are being detained at an Immigration centre the easy way out is to commit a crime and thus win your freedom.

I would take anything Senator James Paterson says with a grain of salt.

The former immigration detainees were granted Criminal Justice Visas; a standard procedure when immigration detainees are charged with criminal offences or required to give evidence in a trial.  Depending on the outcome of the court cases, the former detainees will be imprisoned and then deported or returned to immigration detention, then deported.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by Thryleon -
Charlie will get every chance to show his wares.  He can be mercurial, and a match winner.  He can be a bit choosy, and he absolutely will lift against us.  Hopefully he's playing on and kicking around the corner because thats when he makes the most mistakes. 

Thing is, he wont win the game by himself.  Its guys like herney, papley and warner that do it.  Amartey likes to play against us too, and Grundy is no mug.  Theyre a good side but theyve lost a few contributors and attracted one star.  The bottom 6 will decide the outcome of this one.

Let's hope we make them miss Ollie florent and will hayward.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by DJC -
Two quite significant changes to Victorian criminal law: 

An amendment will be introduced to prevent criminals convicted of violent offences using character references to mitigate sentences.  Probably more for "look and feel" than sentencing outcomes, although I once wrote a character reference that saved a mate from a custodial sentence for firearms offences.

The "adult crime, adult time" law came into force meaning that the maximum jail sentence faced by a 14 to 17 year old person will go from three years to 25 years.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by Gointocarlton -
It will be an interesting night for Curnow. He is human so he'll be nervous, anxious, desperate to do well and know that all eyes are on him. How quickly he can settle, if at all, is the key. Expect the Swans to do whatever they can to get him on the board early. SCG is an interesting venue that, as a newbie, I don't think is mastered in one game. An interesting night ahead!!
Stop the supply and he wont hurt us. If Gulden (assuming he gets up), Heeney, Mills, Warner run riot, he could dine out on us at that craphole of a ground.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by townsendcalling -
It will be an interesting night for Curnow. He is human so he'll be nervous, anxious, desperate to do well and know that all eyes are on him. How quickly he can settle, if at all, is the key. Expect the Swans to do whatever they can to get him on the board early. SCG is an interesting venue that, as a newbie, I don't think is mastered in one game. An interesting night ahead!!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by LP -
If you’re on stalkbook, look up “Mr Cucumber” he ran this on Monday.
Investigation… absolutely required, crimes committed… possibly… A headline screamed from the rooftops, totally !
But regardless the source is a problem, because it has zero accountability and therefore plastic legitimacy. The lack of accountability across all media destroys the concept of news, which is exactly what some want. If the public question hard evidence supported facts, they can say pretty much whatever they like, and that leads to doing anything they like.

Obama's playing this game at the moment, giving RedTrump some of his own medicine.Much of MAGA is disappearing up it's own alien rectum, which is amusing but concerning also.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments
Last post by northernblue -
The $15bn allegedly ripped off by the CFMEU has become a major issue for the Victorian Government but how exactly was that figure arrived at?

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Where did that $15bn figure come from?

Watson described the figure as a “very rough” estimate based on the opinions of “highly qualified stakeholders”.

Given the Big Build was worth roughly $100bn and industry sources told Watson that cost blowouts linked to CFMEU conduct ranged between 10% and 30%, he settled on an estimate of 15%, describing it as “not unreasonable” and “probably conservative”.

“From there the maths is simple – the leadership of the CFMEU has cost the Victorian taxpayer something like $15bn,” the redacted chapter reads. “There is another point to this – as will be seen, much of that $15bn has been poured directly into the hands of criminals and organised crime gangs.”

The Fair Work Commission’s general manager, Murray Furlong, later told Senate estimates the $15bn figure was “consistent with what I’ve heard from officials from the Victorian government”.

However, David Hayward, an emeritus professor of public policy and the social economy at RMIT University, said there “doesn’t seem any reason to believe criminality was as financially significant” as the redacted Watson chapters suggest.

He said overruns were largely due to increased materials and equipment costs, and issues at particular projects.

“What I don’t understand is why [Watson] went down the exaggeration path when he already established a strong case around corruption and criminality, and he really didn’t have to put an estimate in,” Hayward said.

The economist Saul Eslake said the engineering construction implicit price deflator – a measure of price growth used by Australian Bureau of Statistics – showed costs in Victoria went up by 36.8% between December 2014 and September 2025.

But this was lower than New South Wales at 37.4% and national figure of 41.7%.

“All the talk is that Victoria has become a much more expensive place to build and yet the data tells me a different story,” he said.


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/feb/16/cfmeu-victorian-branch-15bn-cost-estimate-explained-administrator-report-ntwnfb

So Watson's guestimate has got people outraged when the facts of the matter, according to independent, conservative and highly respected economist, Saul Eslake, present a very different story.

Of course, this isn't a defence of the CFMEU; an organisation that should have been stamped on well before Albo took action.

If you’re on stalkbook, look up “Mr Cucumber” he ran this on Monday.
Investigation… absolutely required, crimes committed… possibly… A headline screamed from the rooftops, totally !
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Name your team for Opening Round
Last post by DJC -
We don't really know the dynamics that existed last year and how Charlie and his teammates ended up.
I suspect there are still a few friendships there but sometimes when a player switches clubs a few on the old  team may go out with the intention of sending a bit of a message.
One thing they have to be careful of is to not to try and get to him with an overly aggressive approach.
The last thing we want are cheap free kicks and I suspect the umpires will be watchful.

I suspect that players couldn't give a fat rat's clacker about Charlie leaving.  As Weiters said, mateships forged over ten years don't disappear because a player gets a clearance, but that doesn't mean that there won't be a few players looking to give Charlie a bit of curry ... and vice versa.  I think Charlie has been rehearsing his opening lines to Weiters for a couple of weeks  ::)