AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

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Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #60 – June 18, 2020, 01:48:11 pm

Suggestion from left field (well over the border!!) bring in Sam Ramsay to play on (run with) Ablett and lock down defender.
cheers for now
Adelaideblue

ps recall when Aaron Joseph ran with Ablett in a pre-season game some years ago, stuck like glue and restricted the Little Master.

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #61 – June 18, 2020, 02:18:05 pm

We let Ed Curnow run with a bloke called Gary Ablett Jnr one day, I think it was up on a sunny Gold Coast.

Ed was close to BoG that day, and I don't think we've done it again since!

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #62 – June 18, 2020, 04:08:20 pm

A milestone occurs this week, one which is embarrassing and typifies our plight. When Geelong smack us back up the highway to Melbourne, Kade Simpson equals the VFL/AFL games lost record of 208 (with Kevin Murray). Congrats Simmo...not!

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #63 – June 18, 2020, 04:23:49 pm

Quote from: LP on June 18, 2020, 02:18:05 pm

We let Ed Curnow run with a bloke called Gary Ablett Jnr one day, I think it was up on a sunny Gold Coast.

Ed was close to BoG that day, and I don't think we've done it again since!

Ed did have another game on Gablett. He got thrashed. But that has been the exception, rather than the rule. Ed has a good record on Gablett.
We do need another lock down type, as Dangermouse doesn't like it close and hard. I'd suggest Jack Silvagni, but I don't think SOJ can run fast enough. Maybe Ramsay would be a reasonable attempt. He is young and has some athleticism.

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #64 – June 18, 2020, 04:31:12 pm

Crash I think Jack would be very handy in the close quarter combat, trying to win the ball for us and stopping the Cats getting it. No good as a run with option.

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #65 – June 18, 2020, 04:38:04 pm

Quote from: crashlander on June 18, 2020, 04:23:49 pm

Ed did have another game on Gablett. He got thrashed. But that has been the exception, rather than the rule. Ed has a good record on Gablett.
We do need another lock down type, as Dangermouse doesn't like it close and hard. I'd suggest Jack Silvagni, but I don't think SOJ can run fast enough. Maybe Ramsay would be a reasonable attempt. He is young and has some athleticism.

Team-mates are supposed to help slow blokes like Dang down, like Oliver's team-mates did to Cripps last weekend!

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #66 – June 18, 2020, 04:41:48 pm

Quote from: PaulP on June 18, 2020, 12:57:13 pm

I'm a big fan of the power of words, but saying "it's wins or nothing" is not an example of how to use words well, and it's not going to get the desired result. It's lazy, and amateurish to boot.

I think you missed the point of what I was saying, which was in response to your position - and you'll be hard-pressed to find where I wrote 'wins or nothing'... if I'd actually said that, then, yes, it would have been churlish. I was discussing the power of words in setting goals for a vision. And resorting to put-downs doesn't strengthen your argument.

It's okay to have a stated goal to 'win' you know, Pauly, in fact it's preferable. It's equally okay to be intolerant of losing.

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #67 – June 18, 2020, 04:45:21 pm

Quote from: LP on June 18, 2020, 04:38:04 pm

Team-mates are supposed to help slow blokes like Dang down, like Oliver's team-mates did to Cripps last weekend!

Yep. And this has been an issue for some time, Spotted One.

Although it is more difficult these days to take out an opponent, you can fly the flag and let the opposition know that anyone giving your team mate undue attention will be in line for some attention themselves.

I have fond memories (here we go again, down memory lane!) of Braddles getting undue attention in a particular game and Dora dished out a hip and shoulder to the 'minder' and his bad tactics. Stretcher. Ribs. Braddles free to play.

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #68 – June 18, 2020, 04:58:08 pm

Quote from: cookie2 on June 18, 2020, 04:31:12 pm

Crash I think Jack would be very handy in the close quarter combat, trying to win the ball for us and stopping the Cats getting it. No good as a run with option.

Cookie Nat Fyfe says hi.

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #69 – June 18, 2020, 05:17:01 pm

Quote from: Baggers on June 18, 2020, 04:41:48 pm

I think you missed the point of what I was saying, which was in response to your position - and you'll be hard-pressed to find where I wrote 'wins or nothing'... if I'd actually said that, then, yes, it would have been churlish. I was discussing the power of words in setting goals for a vision. And resorting to put-downs doesn't strengthen your argument.

It's okay to have a stated goal to 'win' you know, Pauly, in fact it's preferable. It's equally okay to be intolerant of losing.

The put down was directed at clubs who think that setting winning as a goal is some sort of powerful, never before thought of idea that will inspire the players to greater heights and put the club ahead of the pack, as if somehow the players hadn't already figured this out or may have forgotten. It's as idiotic as telling them to put on their jumpers. Has there ever been a team / coach anywhere in the AFL/VFL that has said it's no biggie if the team loses ?

If you play poker, you can have all the skills and pep talks in the world - you can't win with a losing hand, which is my point about reality.

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #70 – June 18, 2020, 05:36:49 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on June 18, 2020, 04:58:08 pm

Cookie Nat Fyfe says hi.

I'm very pleased and flattered to hear from him GTC, but please explain. Apologies but not feeling 100% in the brain dept tonight. 🤯

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #71 – June 18, 2020, 06:03:36 pm

Quote from: cookie2 on June 18, 2020, 05:36:49 pm

I'm very pleased and flattered to hear from him GTC, but please explain. Apologies but not feeling 100% in the brain dept tonight. 🤯

Last year when we played Freo and won, Fyfe was going nuts and SOS moved onto him, ran with him and quelled his influence. So he can do a run with role if needed.

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #72 – June 18, 2020, 06:29:08 pm

Jack and Willo in
Lang and Newmy out

Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #73 – June 18, 2020, 06:31:01 pm

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Re: AFL Rd 3: Pre Game Prognostications: Carlton vs Geelong in Geelong

Reply #74 – June 18, 2020, 06:53:10 pm

No hope of a win which is sad considering they are probably not even a top 4 team.

The thing is I bet they come out harder then us early on and again game will be over before half time, cause because all the negative talk this week means they will be waiting for it knowing it will be on early.

Again will be slaughtered in the midfield. Apart from Cripps wont win one other midfield spot against their group.

Game over.