Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: Dirty Harry – on May 03, 2014, 01:55:54 pm

I went to the game last night and what was as clear as day is that "confidence" or lack there of was our biggest issue and in turn caused us so many turnovers, so many slow plays, so many rushed kicks as first options were hardly ever taken..
Forget game plan, once Collingwood got in front, Carlton as a whole team (minus Buckley) went into their shells..   It was so clear to see..
I reckon once they heard Waite was out, Carrazzo was out, and Yarran was out, they reacted like the supporters did thinking oh well we wont win..  We gave it a crack for the first few minutes, but once Collingwood got back in front they all seem to accept their fate and went to water... 
There was so much hesitation and its all caused by their lack of  confidence and going back into their shell..

Walker during the week was spot on, that our best football is when we take the game on... Well that involves risks and confidence.. We didn't take risks until the game was gone and we had nothing to lose.. Only then did we start to kick goals which gave us more confidence. That then gave us more goals because we took more risks.. 
I truley believe this team plays its best football when it has nothing to lose.. Its something Mick has to get out of the groups mindset.. But its almost an impossible task.
Ive never seen a team hesitate or go into its shell like we did last night... Players didnt even have confidence to hit up a 20m pass at times.. It was awful..

Agree - the difference between our best and worst is entirely between the ears.

Thomas should get 1 more game then to the NBS if out put doesn't lift markedly.

Funny, what Rowe did Frost and (?) Keefe did at the other end... they just got away with it due to WTF umpiring.  What was Rowe suposed to do, simply concede?  Cloke also got laces out delivery and Rowe was constantly left one-out with no assistance because the other defenders had their hands full.  Yet Rowe is why we lost?  F me, we could have had SOS on Cloke and he still would have had a picnic last night.

Yea Rowe had one very panicky disposal that I can remember.... but Thomas, Gibbs and Walker set the scene in that regard.   If you want to talk about blokes who can't dispose of the ball and have no idea where to position themselves... look at our much vaunted mid-sized "defenders".  Touhy can't position himself - simply has NFI - and Walker's disposal is coughing up 3-5 goals a game.

Quote from: flyboy77 – on May 03, 2014, 03:19:22 pm

Thomas should get 1 more game then to the NBS if out put doesn't lift markedly.

With the money he's on I'd expect Daisy should be doing a bit extra around the club so save us some coin. Working the cafeteria, washing the players guernseys, cleaning the toilets...etc.

I think the one thing that is coming out of all this right now is that we as supporters have been sold a dud !!

Everyone was told to "stick fat" and buy memberships, the club has sacked a favourite son and brought in one of the biggest names in coaching ever on the premise that we were a whisker away from a premiership tilt.

Five losses from seven games with all of them being extremely embarrassing has many people very angry now that their goodwill and faith has basically been taken for granted and/or the club is essentially a huge pisstake.

There is also the blind loyalty that a high number of Blues supporters have to the players which has now been blown out of the water as even though they really want to see success, deep down they know that these players are not going to take us anywhere.

Overall, we are a mid-table team at best and a bottom-feeder of a club with questionable management and no leadership of note coming over the hill to save us.

19 years since our last flag and right now, we look further away from winning one than we ever have in this period.

It's sad really but the club only has itself to thank for being in such a predicament. As shown by some of the other successful clubs, sheer arrogance & short-cuts aren't the methodology that wins these days, nothing less than hard work & a future vision does.

Kane Lucas delist. Is one of, or the worst, I have seen at AFL level.

Menzel as sub is absolutely ridiculous.

Carrazzo and Waite our injured again - gee...surprise, surprise. Happy to let them both go. Same for Judd. We've got to get past the Judd-saviour era IMO. Hate to say it.

Gibbs can walk. Another scared perfomance. Downhiller.

Garlett trade if anyone wants him. Scared little boy out there ala Lucas.

Buckley shows the most heart I have seen in a navy Blue jumper in a long long longggggggg time@!!!

Putrid performance but unfortunately I was not surprised.

People bagging Rowe and co - he is not the problem. the amount of quality ball coming in - 71% to 29% late in the game in the Pies favour time spent in the forward 50 - give me a break! He may not be our key back we want but you know very little if you think he's the reason we are so poor and why we were so disgraceful last night!

Walker down back - end this now! Cannot field kick to save himself and is a liability down back. Move him back forward permanently.

Literally time to play the kids - get all of Cripps, Holman, Graham and Giles in the team along with Menzel, Buckley and Docherty. That's the future!

Culture change and a new era required - ASAP!!!!

We were just plain lazy.

Get em in FFS

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Quote from: TheSheik – on May 03, 2014, 10:57:53 am

I think the one thing that is coming out of all this right now is that we as supporters have been sold a dud !!

Everyone was told to "stick fat" and buy memberships, the club has sacked a favourite son and brought in one of the biggest names in coaching ever on the premise that we were a whisker away from a premiership tilt.

Five losses from seven games with all of them being extremely embarrassing has many people very angry now that their goodwill and faith has basically been taken for granted and/or the club is essentially a huge pisstake.

There is also the blind loyalty that a high number of Blues supporters have to the players which has now been blown out of the water as even though they really want to see success, deep down they know that these players are not going to take us anywhere.

Overall, we are a mid-table team at best and a bottom-feeder of a club with questionable management and no leadership of note coming over the hill to save us.

19 years since our last flag and right now, we look further away from winning one than we ever have in this period.

It's sad really but the club only has itself to thank for being in such a predicament. As shown by some of the other successful clubs, sheer arrogance & short-cuts aren't the methodology that wins these days, nothing less than hard work & a future vision does.

Unless they DUD the numbers, no way we get to 50,000 members this year.

I don't know if they read this forum, but if they want to know how we really feel about what's going on, then they should.

The only problem with that is, that after reading it, they would treat what we say with contempt because they would feel that we really have no idea what we are talking about. I've had some involvement down there 40 years ago, and from that aspect, nothing has changed.

it's always, we know best and the supporters are just fwits that have to be milked for every cent we can get out of them.