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I'm a little confused about the argument that we should wait until some of these kids make it to 50+ games before we make a firm judgement about them.


... why then have we made judgements and let go so many players that haven't managed that number.

What pressure forwards?

Cunningham was playing off the HBF and wouldn't chase nor tackle, Garlett was playing wing HFF and would not chase or tackle. Why do they get a game again?

If there had not been changes then Bolton would of been criticised for not putting players out who won't put in.

Jed Lamb might have been one of the forwards referred to by mbb. I can't remember exactly what was said in the pre match thread.

Sorry, when someone mentions pressure forwards Jed Lamb does not spring to mind at all

I'm a little confused about the argument that we should wait until some of these kids make it to 50+ games before we make a firm judgement about them.


... why then have we made judgements and let go so many players that haven't managed that number.

Sorry, when someone mentions pressure forwards Jed Lamb does not spring to mind at all

Sorry, when someone mentions pressure forwards Jed Lamb does not spring to mind at all

You can make judgements on individual players, however the counter argument is that the kids are no good because the group as a collective is gone backward from 2017.

For me it was a given.   Last year our midfield was a major weakness and it batted 3 deep with Cripps, Gibbs and Murphy.   E.Curnow next in line (god bless him) is an endurance beast, but a good honest battler.    With all three in the middle we were competitive.   We just couldn't afford to lose any.

Flash forward to 2018.   No Gibbs and No Doc and blokes like SPS in their 21 game of football are in the centre square.    Are we expecting SPS to replace Gibbs and his 231 games of experience.   Or course not.

So where is the improvement going to come from to replace Gibbs and Doc to at least match last years output?   As Raydan pointed out your real improvement comes from those guys who have had 4-5 pre-seasons and our cupboard is bare in this department.  

Our young kids will struggle to have a impact in a weak side.   Like McCluggage, Ainsworth, Brodie, Bowes etc.    All still have the potential to be very good players, but it ain't going to happen 21 games into a career.   

So I ask everyone given our outs.   What made you think we would be better than 2017?

You can make judgements on individual players, however the counter argument is that the kids are no good because the group as a collective is gone backward from 2017.

For me it was a given.   Last year our midfield was a major weakness and it batted 3 deep with Cripps, Gibbs and Murphy.   E.Curnow next in line (god bless him) is an endurance beast, but a good honest battler.    With all three in the middle we were competitive.   We just couldn't afford to lose any.

Flash forward to 2018.   No Gibbs and No Doc and blokes like SPS in their 21 game of football are in the centre square.    Are we expecting SPS to replace Gibbs and his 231 games of experience.   Or course not.

So where is the improvement going to come from to replace Gibbs and Doc to at least match last years output?   As Raydan pointed out your real improvement comes from those guys who have had 4-5 pre-seasons and our cupboard is bare in this department.  

Our young kids will struggle to have a impact in a weak side.   Like McCluggage, Ainsworth, Brodie, Bowes etc.    All still have the potential to be very good players, but it ain't going to happen 21 games into a career.   

So I ask everyone given our outs.   What made you think we would be better than 2017?

With the exception of Fisher Garlett chases more than anyone.

I still really like Brodie - he's not getting a game at GC as Rischitelli, Miller, Swallow, etc. are playing in his position. I wonder if we could snag him on the cheap at the end of the year - even though he is still under contract?

He's been injured, and they are in no rush to cook the talent!

Hasn't had an injury as far as I know. Into his second year and played all bar 2 AFL games in the NEAFL. Could be vulnerable like Kennedy was.

I just don't get the "rebuild has failed". We are still right in the middle of it. When you cook a casserole, you get the ingredients, you chop them up and put them in a pot together, that's where we are. Now we have to wait 45 mins to and hour to get the finished product. This is the next 2-3 seasons. 

Problem is, this is the 3rd, 4th, 5th? 'rebuild, redevelopment, rennovation, rejuvination...'

This casserole was supposed to be for dinner......last week. By the time its cooked we'll be dead from malnutrition!