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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #120
Paddy Dow is officially having second year blues.

I was seeing if he would come good before calling it, but hes been pretty bad.  Time for a spell in the vfl.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #121
What a joke some of these posts are.

Why do you say that LP?

Why can't people be utterly dismayed and frustrated with a performance like today? What are people trying to prove with this "chin up" nothing to see here, old English brovado approach?

The effort and performance sucked. Call it what it is, don't try and gloss over it and pretend it didn't happen. FFS, it's been going on for two decades, the time for pretending is well and truly over.
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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #122
Paddy Dow is officially having second year blues.

I was seeing if he would come good before calling it, but hes been pretty bad.  Time for a spell in the vfl.

So what's Marc Murphy having? Shouldn't the same be applied to him? Or is he above criticism? Biff seems to think so...
Drugs are bad, mmmkay...

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #123
Did we really believe that Dow , O’Brien ,Walsh ,  Stocker, SPS and Fisher all small framed skinny inexperienced youngsters were going to impact players like Ziebell, Cunningham, Higgins and co.
I wasn’t expecting miracles today, as we had  critical personal injured and team balance was disrupted not an excuse but a reality.
We’ll be more competitive against the Pies, should Kreuzer, McGovern, Setterfield, perhaps Kennedy get a game.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #124
Did we really believe that Dow , O’Brien ,Walsh ,  Stocker, SPS and Fisher all small framed skinny inexperienced youngsters were going to impact players like Ziebell, Cunningham, Higgins and co.
I wasn’t expecting miracles today, as we had  critical personal injured and team balance was disrupted not an excuse but a reality.
We’ll be more competitive against the Pies, should Kreuzer, McGovern, Setterfield, perhaps Kennedy get a game.

Sure enough we can be far more competitive with the likes of the players you suggest. They will be needed in desperation. The Pies are a far better side to who we played today, and will be ready mentally for a fight back from us. I just hope we don’t suffer more injuries trying to arm wrestle a side that is so well drilled at getting the job done. They couldn’t stomach a loss to our current side. Bucks would explode. Fat mouth Eddie would do likewise.
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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #125
Oh, he's gone all Italian on me! Nice work Paul! A more scything rebuttal you will not read. I feel like a clown for not picking it up earlier, but Paul is multi-lingual people. Good for you Paul...

Relevant, focussed and on point, as always.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #126
I just watched Boltons pressure and Weiters interview. I am even more disgusted after listening to those, WTF does "not mentally prepared mean"? I'd be embarrassed to put that up as an reason. You are a professional football team engaged to play 23 games per year. FARKEN COMING MENTALLY PREPARED IS FARKEN FUNDAMENTAL. IF YOU CANT COME MENTALLY PREPARED, FARK OFF, AND THATS WHETHER YOU ARE CRIPPS OR STOCKER.
I will be writing to the club to voice my disgust at such a lame and pathetic reason to be made public. That is just unforgivable to me, you have just told the football world you are mentally weak. What imbecile does that?

See the Hawks 1st half last week, in particular the 1st q. It happens, even to super coaches and premiership players, let alone our blokes.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #127
See the Hawks 1st half last week, in particular the 1st q. It happens, even to super coaches and premiership players, let alone our blokes.

Yet the Hawks regrouped and won the game - therein lies the difference!!

We were playing a very ordinary team yesterday don't forget....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #128
Yet the Hawks regrouped and won the game - therein lies the difference!!

We were playing a very ordinary team yesterday don't forget....

Yes I know that. The Hawks won :
a. because of the clock,
b. their senior players are experienced and have a winning culture
c. because young teams like ours don't have what it takes to turn the momentum when it's not going our way.

Yesterday sucked, make no bones about it. Hopefully the boys will learn. We're not at the Hawks level where we can arrest a bad start.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #129
The clock?  That's desperate wallpaper over allowing them back into the game in the first place

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #130
The clock?  That's desperate wallpaper over allowing them back into the game in the first place

Well, either we let them back in, or else they worked themselves back into it through experience, and winning habits. I'm not interested in quibbling. You will see things as you wish.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #131
You can bet on that   :)

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #132
So what's Marc Murphy having? Shouldn't the same be applied to him? Or is he above criticism? Biff seems to think so...

Murphy's stats yesterday were first year player level.  However we dont have a better player knocking on the door to come in and are missing experienced heads who draw an opponent.  I'd rather he get hammered in tackles than Sam Walsh so he's still more useful to us than Liam stocker and lachie o brien.

We are already missing experienced heads.  Taking another one out probably wont help us much.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #133
Yes I know that. The Hawks won :
a. because of the clock,
b. their senior players are experienced and have a winning culture
c. because young teams like ours don't have what it takes to turn the momentum when it's not going our way.

Yesterday sucked, make no bones about it. Hopefully the boys will learn. We're not at the Hawks level where we can arrest a bad start.

That's exactly the scenario.

The crew on Manrgrook predicted a 60pt defeat based on our outs and our inexperienced list combined with the motivation Norp were receiving off the media and Scott's ball on the line. Most Carlton fans scoffed at their prediction, some even sledged them, so I suspect they are owed an apology! Yet fans will buy the Monday morning media shock, as that has them feel at ease when they throw the baby out with the bath water.

We lost how many hundred games of experience after last weekend, and we brought in how many games of experience?

The bigger worry is did the club see this coming, if they did then they haven't played their media cards very well this week, if they didn't they are basically incompetent despite the realisation they have no other choice? Especially given the list management decision they have made in the recent past?

Are there any positives we can take from this game?

Despite being besieged Weitering kept it together to the best of his ability, but we do not want him BoG in such circumstances but he probably was.

But again my biggest worry remains, I do not think being battered week in week out is necessarily good for the kids. In small does adversity might be OK, without relief it's more likely debilitating. I've not seen Cripps look so disinterested before, but yesterday he looked like a guy who didn't want to be there, a player going through the motions. Daisy looked old, sMurph looked old and Meat was the old meat.

I gather yesterday ends any thoughts that Phillips and Levi are viable AFL 1st ruckmen!
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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 7: Carlton vs. North Melbourne

Reply #134
That's exactly the scenario.

The crew Manrgrook predicted a 60pt defeat based on our outs and our inexperienced list combined with the motivation Norp were receiving off the media and Scott's ball on the line. Most Carlton fans scoffed at their prediction, some even sledged them, so I suspect they are owed an apology!

We lost how many hundred games of experience after last weekend, and we brought in how many games of experience?

The bigger worry is did the club see this coming, if they did then they haven't played their media cards very well this week, if they didn't they are basically incompetent despite the realisation they have no other choice? Especially given the list management decision they have made in the recent past?

Are there any positives we can take from this game?

Despite being besieged Weitering kept it together to the best of his ability, but we do not want him BoG in such circumstances but he probably was.

But again my biggest worry remains, I do not think being battered week in week out is necessarily good for the kids. In small does adversity might be OK, without relief it's more likely debilitating. I've not seen Cripps look so disinterested before, but yesterday he looked like a guy who didn't want to be there, a player going through the motions. Daisy looked old, sMurph looked old and Meat was the old meat.

I gather yesterday ends any thoughts that Phillips and Levi are viable AFL 1st ruckmen!

What did you want the club to say??

They can't put the queue in the rack.  The selection of stocker was a tell.

If we are debuting players while o'Brien is getting a game we wont win many.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson