Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #105 – June 07, 2019, 03:01:10 pm I Have no expectations about this game at all.We could do a North type performance....or we could get a hiding.They've done it again the wily old so-and-sosThey've bought some more time.They've taken the pressure off themselves....temporary though it might be.The coach sacking was a pressure release.No-one is expecting miracles in the short term, and then they'll gain a bit of respite while the new coach settles in The only ones feeling pressure will be Teague (if he wants the senior job) and players on the fringe who'll be playing for their future.So tomorrow gives us the opportunity to just watch the team go around without the worries of a coach sacking and other external concerns.There's no worry about the result, the season is over in a competitive sense.Added to that will/should be a new approach to the game and maybe the opportunity to see some players in different roles.Looking forward to seeing how we go. Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #106 – June 07, 2019, 03:09:43 pm Quote from: Lods – on June 07, 2019, 03:01:10 pmI Have no expectations about this game at all.We could do a North type performance....or we could get a hiding.They've done it again the wily old so-and-sosThey've bought some more time.They've taken the pressure off themselves....temporary though it might be.The coach sacking was a pressure release.No-one is expecting miracles in the short term, and then they'll gain a bit of respite while the new coach settles in The only ones feeling pressure will be Teague (if he wants the senior job) and players on the fringe who'll be playing for their future.So tomorrow gives us the opportunity to just watch the team go around without the worries of a coach sacking and other external concerns.There's no worry about the result, the season is over in a competitive sense.Added to that will/should be a new approach to the game and maybe the opportunity to see some players in different roles.Looking forward to seeing how we go.Can't agree.This buys no time.In fact it does the opposite. Malthouse got two years and the knives came out.That will happen again now. Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #107 – June 07, 2019, 03:17:42 pm The Premier League clubs (and most European teams for that matter) change Managers (same as our senior coaches) at the drop of a hat if success isn't forthcoming?Perhaps our Board is actually ahead of the pack after all?And don't dredge up the Bombers at Cats, Dimma at Tigers etc etc. Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #108 – June 07, 2019, 03:47:56 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on June 07, 2019, 03:17:42 pmThe Premier League clubs (and most European teams for that matter) change Managers (same as our senior coaches) at the drop of a hat if success isn't forthcoming?Perhaps our Board is actually ahead of the pack after all?And don't dredge up the Bombers at Cats, Dimma at Tigers etc etc.That's a glass half full approach, and very generalised. The clubs that behave this way usually are at the top of the game, and spend the sort of money on a handful of players that the AFL would for the entire season.Jurgen klopp just won his first piece of silverware with liverpool after having been appointed in 2015.The difference?Liverpool paid alot of money to buy some key players and didn't sell anything beyond one key player (phillipe coutinho) and some dead weights that weren't playing much. Here's a key point of difference. They didn't chop and change everything every year. They identified a few holes and worked on building the team buying a few players for depth. Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #109 – June 07, 2019, 03:52:06 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on June 07, 2019, 03:09:43 pmCan't agree.This buys no time.In fact it does the opposite. Malthouse got two years and the knives came out.That will happen again now.Who are the knives out for?The interim coach means a bit of pressure off the board for a whileThey're the So-and-sos I was talking about.But the board...they're going nowhereWhile the board stays in place SOS's position is secure as long as he wants it.Judd's too.The only endangered species at Carlton are coaches, and players who don't impact in their first couple of years (you don't get long as a player either) Quote Selected Last Edit: June 07, 2019, 03:59:56 pm by Lods
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #110 – June 07, 2019, 04:07:14 pm Quote from: Lods – on June 07, 2019, 03:52:06 pmWho are the knives out for?The interim coach means a bit of pressure off the board for a whileThey're the So-and-sos I was talking about.But the board...they're going nowhereWhile the board stays in place SOS's position is secure as long as he wants it.Judd's too.The only endangered species at Carlton are coaches, and players who don't impact in their first couple of years (you don't get long as a player either)Lods.The moves we have made are the type that fracture footy clubs.Whispers everywhere. There will be "factions" that emerge from the rubble of this. Some pro Bolton, some anti Bolton, some anti new bloke and anti Bolton, and most will simply scoff at what we said is a united footy club.The scorched earth approach to the list, was party born about because of these factors.If there is a serious board challenge coming from somewhere, the time is now for these people to show their hand, but in doing so, they will hurt any attempt at recovery we have. The media stories we see about this will continue for a little while. People are still a bit shocked by what has happened and are processing it all.Bolton when he started his thanks for the club, has inadvertently already thrown a barb at the footy club. He named personally all the people that appointed him, and who had given his opportunity to coach us.There have been plenty of signs that we were losing faith. Remember that show "The Journey?" that stopped in 2017. At the time I chalked it down to perhaps Trigg getting dumped. Perhaps there are much bigger machinations at play than we can appreciate.OR you can label us all conspiracy nuts. After all, the behaviour we are witnessing occur at our footy club has never happened before has it? *sarcasm* Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #111 – June 07, 2019, 04:16:49 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on June 07, 2019, 04:07:14 pmLods.The moves we have made are the type that fracture footy clubs.Whispers everywhere. There will be "factions" that emerge from the rubble of this. Some pro Bolton, some anti Bolton, some anti new bloke and anti Bolton, and most will simply scoff at what we said is a united footy club.The scorched earth approach to the list, was party born about because of these factors.If there is a serious board challenge coming from somewhere, the time is now for these people to show their hand, but in doing so, they will hurt any attempt at recovery we have. The media stories we see about this will continue for a little while. People are still a bit shocked by what has happened and are processing it all.Bolton when he started his thanks for the club, has inadvertently already thrown a barb at the footy club. He named personally all the people that appointed him, and who had given his opportunity to coach us.There have been plenty of signs that we were losing faith. Remember that show "The Journey?" that stopped in 2017. At the time I chalked it down to perhaps Trigg getting dumped. Perhaps there are much bigger machinations at play than we can appreciate.OR you can label us all conspiracy nuts. After all, the behaviour we are witnessing occur at our footy club has never happened before has it? *sarcasm*There won't be a challenge ThryThere is no-one out there to mount a credible challenge.And the obstacles to do that are well in placeI doubt anyone at the level we're talking about is going to be overly concerned about the demise of Brendon Bolton.Win tomorrow and many supporters will move on quickly.All the current board need to do is wait patiently until the end of the season and appoint a coach to continue the 'process'It will be someone the public respect or have confidence in getting results and the club will get kudos for it.Sacking Bolton has just meant that process can go ahead without a lot of noise about results Quote Selected Last Edit: June 07, 2019, 04:18:24 pm by Lods
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #112 – June 07, 2019, 04:33:47 pm Quote from: Lods – on June 07, 2019, 04:16:49 pmThere won't be a challenge ThryThere is no-one out there to mount a credible challenge.And the obstacles to do that are well in placeI doubt anyone at the level we're talking about is going to be overly concerned about the demise of Brendon Bolton.Win tomorrow and many supporters will move on quickly.All the current board need to do is wait patiently until the end of the season and appoint a coach to continue the 'process'It will be someone the public respect or have confidence in getting results and the club will get kudos for it.Sacking Bolton has just meant that process can go ahead without a lot of noise about resultsAlthough I am not concerned about the demise of Brendan, what worries me is the way that the public perceive this. Carlton ruining yet another coaches reputation with the usual rigmarole. The parallels are there. This step was never going to be about Brendan specifically. All anyone is looking at is methodology. Even Caro, who is usually happy enough to throw stones at Carlton stated on FC on monday that we probably should have cut Brendan Loose last season.The methodology surrounding this is a little too similar to what many perceive is our footy clubs modus operandi, and as a result, its issues surrounding stability, and giving people the appropriate tools to do their job.Particularly when you look at the playing list he has ended up with. This year looked from the get go to be a challenging one. Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #113 – June 07, 2019, 04:34:29 pm https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-06-07/teague-backs-blues-inImpressive and not a cliche or positive thinking line from a 1991 multi level marketing pep rally! Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #114 – June 07, 2019, 05:01:05 pm Quote from: Baggers – on June 07, 2019, 04:34:29 pmhttps://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-06-07/teague-backs-blues-inImpressive and not a cliche or positive thinking line from a 1991 multi level marketing pep rally!x2..he is very impressive " we have to get a game style that suits our players"...hallelujah to that.Those of us who watched the two's when he coached would know he got the best out of that team and listening to him it was allabout winning and backing players in. Really sounds like we were over complicating things and he wants to strip it back to the basicsand make it easy, free flowing footy and more enjoyable.. Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #115 – June 07, 2019, 05:01:35 pm Quote from: Baggers – on June 07, 2019, 04:34:29 pmhttps://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-06-07/teague-backs-blues-inImpressive and not a cliche or positive thinking line from a 1991 multi level marketing pep rally!Yep. Back to basics. Realistic. Sounds promising. I can only pray that the boys respond for him. Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #116 – June 07, 2019, 06:41:08 pm Quote from: cookie2 – on June 07, 2019, 10:52:19 amI understand it is selected by the MC of which the head coach is a member. So those folk who claimed Polson was getting games because he was Bolton’s pet were talking out of their ask! Who’d have thunk it? Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #117 – June 07, 2019, 07:35:21 pm Quote from: DJC – on June 07, 2019, 06:41:08 pm So those folk who claimed Polson was getting games because he was Bolton’s pet were talking out of their ask! Who’d have thunk it? The small forward cupboard is bare old son. He's named as an emergency because there was actually no-one else to name! Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #118 – June 07, 2019, 07:43:03 pm Quote from: Baggers – on June 07, 2019, 07:35:21 pmThe small forward cupboard is bare old son. He's named as an emergency because there was actually no-one else to name!His nickname is not "Default" for nothing - oops, take that one back! Quote Selected
Re: Pre-Game Pressure: AFL 2019 Rd 12: Carlton vs Brisbane Reply #119 – June 07, 2019, 07:53:24 pm Quote from: cookie2 – on June 07, 2019, 07:43:03 pmHis nickname is not "Default" for nothing - oops, take that one back! gotta say you've been in scintillating form of late, Fluffy One... Quote Selected