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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2385 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
https://www.tga.gov.au/alert/2020-seasonal-influenza-vaccines

Sorry Nando. I misread your question earlier.

My wife gets one every year, and neither she nor anyone she knows (or I know) have ever asked for a specific brand / variant. Is this a thing ? Can you ask your GP / chemist etc. for a particular one ?
I don't think so, although my wife and a bad reaction to one she had a work and our GP asked if she knew (or could find out) which one she had.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2386 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I don't think so, although my wife and a bad reaction to one she had a work and our GP asked if she knew (or could find out) which one she had.

I see. Thanks. My wife has been getting them for 15 years or so. She has no idea of the manufacturers, but she's never had any issues.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2387 –
While we argue about a vaccination, this is a snippet of 'Covid News' from Cambodia that a client of mine receives.  We are getting similar stories from other countries that the client has aid and relief projects in (incl. Myanmar - what a mess, Thailand, Uganda, Zimbabwe, DRC).

The outbreak came from a quarantine breach on Feb 20.

$2,800 to feed 69 families for a month.  $1.30 per family per day.

I have read that Covid has put back global poverty gains by seven years.  110million being plunged (back) into abject poverty.  These are people who find a way to get enough money for something for their family to eat that night.  If they don't do something, they don't eat.



I just wanted to give you a quick wee update on the latest COVID news. Cases are now over 800 and there is a sense of fear and panic among our families and kids. The kids are reporting that they are now running out of food and the parents are telling us about job losses and drops in daily income.
 
I keep thinking how unfair it is that the poor are the first to suffer, and somehow the rich get richer. Terrible. I was out on the weekend and saw so many homeless families and kids near the riverside. Loads of kids sleeping on thin mats or cardboard right there on the boardwalk. You know where I mean.
 
The news today announced that construction is underway for four new crematoriums outside of Phnom Penh, ahead of increases in COVID deaths. I find this hard news to read. The expectations for this new outbreak are obviously not good.
 
We have asked a few donors to help contribute for food parcels for out most at risk families and we have already made it half way to one month's food for 69 families and I'm sure we'll get the remaining $1400 soon enough!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2388 –
Quote from: LP – on
The politicians aren't selectively getting one or the other, it depends on where you are....

Its cute that you believe that.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2389 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Its cute that you believe that.
Half of them are on the news or website videos getting AstraZeneca, another bunch of them yesterday.

That tinfoil you keep offering people might be getting absorbed through your skin, you're not using the old fashioned lead type are you! ;D
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2390 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I see. Thanks. My wife has been getting them for 15 years or so. She has no idea of the manufacturers, but she's never had any issues.
That's the way this stuff rolls, being lucky or unlucky is a complex issue!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2391 –
Quote from: LP – on
That's the way this stuff rolls, being lucky or unlucky is a complex issue!

Yes, as I mentioned yesterday, it's interesting that most folks would not have a clue about manufacturers, efficacy rates etc. of flu vaccines, and are quite prepared to get the jab every year, yet there is a great big hullabaloo about the covid vaccine. 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2392 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Yes, as I mentioned yesterday, it's interesting that most folks would not have a clue about manufacturers, efficacy rates etc. of flu vaccines, and are quite prepared to get the jab every year, yet there is a great big hullabaloo about the covid vaccine.
Ironically, the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines are closer in technology to the traditional Influenza vaccine than Pfizer and Moderna which are both completely new technologies, yet the sceptics want the "Trusted Pfizer." Go figure! :o

Personally I don't care which one I get, any procedure can harm you, but the chances are very very low of you being unlucky with any of the offered vaccines, they are functionally the same. That is an unequivocal truth exposed by the statistics. The cynics are almost infinitely more likely to choke on their own lunch today, be killed driving to work, slip in the shower or have a stroke while taking a dump, but they won't stop eating, driving, scrubbing or crapting!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2393 –
Quote from: LP – on
Ironically, the AstraZeneca and J&J vaccines are closer in technology to the traditional Influenza vaccine than Pfizer and Moderna which are both completely new technologies, yet the sceptics want the "Trusted Pfizer." Go figure! :o

Personally I don't care which one I get, any procedure can harm you, but the chances are very very low of you being unlucky with any of the offered vaccines, they are functionally the same. That is an unequivocal truth exposed by the statistics. The cynics are almost infinitely more likely to choke on their own lunch today, be killed driving to work, slip in the shower or have a stroke while taking a dump, but they won't stop eating, driving, scrubbing or crapting!


Speaking of probabilities, what is the chance of an otherwise healthy unvaccinated person becoming severely ill or worse from the virus in Australia?

Less than a shark attack for all age demographics. Even the uber oldies (in this country).

So, where does the risk/reward balance sit?

And don't start on the BS that is asymptomatic transmission.....
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Reply #2394 –
There appears to be a huge political storm going on between the UK and EU over the AZ vaccine which I won't elaborate on here. Net outcome looks like a global undermining of confidence in the AZ vaccine leaving the field open to mainly Pfizer and Sputnik V. Fascinating.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2395 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Yes, as I mentioned yesterday, it's interesting that most folks would not have a clue about manufacturers, efficacy rates etc. of flu vaccines, and are quite prepared to get the jab every year, yet there is a great big hullabaloo about the covid vaccine. 

Don't mention the fact that 13 nations in Europe have paused the use of AstraZ.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2396 –
Quote from: LP – on
Half of them are on the news or website videos getting AstraZeneca, another bunch of them yesterday.

That tinfoil you keep offering people might be getting absorbed through your skin, you're not using the old fashioned lead type are you! ;D

At my mother in laws' hospital that she works at all the doctors got the Pfizer. She's a food monitor so she has been told that she gets the AstraZ, same as the cleaners.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2397 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
There appears to be a huge political storm going on between the UK and EU over the AZ vaccine which I won't elaborate on here. Net outcome looks like a global undermining of confidence in the AZ vaccine leaving the field open to mainly Pfizer and Sputnik V. Fascinating.
The Sputnik also doubles as a hair restorer and fuel injector cleaner..
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2398 –
Quote from: LP – on
Half of them are on the news or website videos getting AstraZeneca, another bunch of them yesterday.

That tinfoil you keep offering people might be getting absorbed through your skin, you're not using the old fashioned lead type are you! ;D

Its funny how you continue to push the barrow that oversees governments are banning it....citing disinformation and secret agendas...

...at the same swallowing everything you are being fed by ours with an empty bowl asking "please sir, can i have some more".

Hypocrisy.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #2399 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
At my mother in laws' hospital that she works at all the doctors got the Pfizer. She's a food monitor so she has been told that she gets the AstraZ, same as the cleaners.

Further to what i just wrote above, and earlier to Pauly...

Why do you think the above occurs if they are the same?
Why are the general public not told what version they will be getting?

They both might be equally effective and do their job, with 1 slightly better.
It might be the difference between a BMW and Mercedes. same same but different.

OR

It might be a Datsun 120y they are offering instead and they don't want to tell you about what you are missing out on.