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Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #375 –
Well when I saw our selected side, a lot of optimism evaporated. Was going to write a few things but saw that K (above) covered them nicely.

If you're Brisvegas, who are you going to target in our forward line? Durdin's shoulder, run Williams and Fantasia hard until they do a hammy or calf.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #376 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
So you prefer to take Moir, with less than 60 mins of AFL experience, into a cut throat final at the Gabba than Cerra? Think about what you write sometimes.
Marion Pickett says hi 👋
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #377 –
Quote from: BluePhantom – on
Marion Pickett says hi 👋
How old was Pickett again?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #378 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
How old was Pickett again?
Moir has x factor and is hard to match up due to his height and agility.
I've been pro Orazio but would select Moir before him.
Plus it's a final in Brisbane with what 45000 spectators, not really as intimidating as a final at the G in front of 95000?
2025... Moir of the same to come

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #379 –
Moir will get pushed off the ball too easily as a forward he is a top talent in a boys body right now
Some games in H&A is good but an important final just needs to get his body a little bit hardened .
Ollie Dempsey has had three pre seasons and is 21 years old
Moir need two more pre seasons but you do expect him to get few games next year and might be a key player for us but right now he is too young against brute experienced defenders.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #380 –
Quote from: BluePhantom – on
Moir has x factor and is hard to match up due to his height and agility.
I've been pro Orazio but would select Moir before him.
Plus it's a final in Brisbane with what 45000 spectators, not really as intimidating as a final at the G in front of 95000?
Fair enough, we'll see I guess. I personally think he would get mauled (right now).
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #381 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Fair enough, we'll see I guess. I personally think he would get mauled (right now).
Yes, as a Sub he might make sense, but even that is limited he can't usefully cover D50 issues. Owies being out has cost us some flexibility because Owies runs square to square.

Secondly, this is one shot, we are the underdogs, and a rookie mistake might end the season. If we still had the double chance it would be different, but now we need as many experienced cool heads as we can muster and trust the plan whatever it may be!

No matter what it's going to be tough, we are without 2 of our 3 main avenues to goal for the biggest game of the season, time for the MC to get inventive.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #382 –
Quote from: LP – on
Yes, as a Sub he might make sense, but even that is limited he can't usefully cover D50 issues. Owies being out has cost us some flexibility because Owies runs square to square.

Secondly, this is one shot, we are the underdogs, and a rookie mistake might end the season. If we still had the double chance it would be different, but now we need as many experienced cool heads as we can muster and trust the plan whatever it may be!

No matter what it's going to be tough, we are without 2 of our 3 main avenues to goal for the biggest game of the season, time for the MC to get inventive.

This I do agree with…
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #383 –
I'd have Young as the sub, because he enables a reshuffle at either end of the ground, assuming we only need to use the Sub for injury.

I think the idea of a tactical Sub is vastly overstated, and has very little value.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #384 –
No one in the football world is giving us a chance, and rightly so IMO. I think we need to be realistic. We stumbled into finals on the back of many weeks of average form. We've had several injuries, and for this game lots of changes and question marks over the players selected, against a team who rarely loses on their home deck. None of which suggest a win IMO.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #385 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
No one in the football world is giving us a chance, and rightly so IMO. I think we need to be realistic. We stumbled into finals on the back of many weeks of average form. We've had several injuries, and for this game lots of changes and question marks over the players selected, against a team who rarely loses on their home deck. None of which suggest a win IMO.
And no one would have thought the team who finished 2nd would have put together such an abysmal performance (at home no less) in the first week of finals. The 8 is a lot more even than people think.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #386 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
And no one would have thought the team who finished 2nd would have put together such an abysmal performance (at home no less) in the first week of finals. The 8 is a lot more even than people think.
Dunno...it's Kenny Hinkley coaching Port in the finals, not a great combo for success in recent seasons. I picked the Cats when I saw the teams and read how well the Cats play the ground.
Think Brisbane deserve to be odds on favourites and it's going to take a miracle to win...
 

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #387 –
I like the side, although Cinc is very unlucky.
Think the MC had no choice but to play all the guys coming back from injury, got to remember the end game here is to win a flag, not just an elimination final. Need to win 4 games to do that and our best chance of that is to get games in to the guys who have been out for long periods with injuries and have our best possible 22 on the field for the GF.
Have to roll the dice.

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #388 –
Quote from: NudeNut – on
I like the side, although Cinc is very unlucky.
Think the MC had no choice but to play all the guys coming back from injury, got to remember the end game here is to win a flag, not just an elimination final. Need to win 4 games to do that and our best chance of that is to get games in to the guys who have been out for long periods with injuries and have our best possible 22 on the field for the GF.
Have to roll the dice.
I would have had Cincotta playing on Neale...

Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

Reply #389 –
Quote from: LP – on
Yes, as a Sub he might make sense, but even that is limited he can't usefully cover D50 issues. Owies being out has cost us some flexibility because Owies runs square to square.

Secondly, this is one shot, we are the underdogs, and a rookie mistake might end the season. If we still had the double chance it would be different, but now we need as many experienced cool heads as we can muster and trust the plan whatever it may be!

No matter what it's going to be tough, we are without 2 of our 3 main avenues to goal for the biggest game of the season, time for the MC to get inventive.

I largely agree, but not with “avenues” … and I think that it’s more than semantics.

It’s actually two of our three main goal scorers that we are missing.  That means that we have to (a) rely on other players to kick a winning score and (b) use innovative avenues to goal that will give them the best chance of doing that.

Vossy and the MC will have to be incredibly inventive with the way we structure the forward line and how we tweak our transition and team defence.

We should have pulled it off against St Kilda but we’ve got a much tougher opponent tomorrow.  The upside is that Vossy has better weapons to deploy this week … if the MC gets it right.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!