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AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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12 players unavailable for selection  (with the late withdrawal of Harry)
same as last week....but a much better effort.

Still issues to fix, but i reckon we learned a few things.

1. STOP PLAYING INJURED PLAYERS!
Curnow should not have played. Was invisible out there.

2. Silvagni should play as a key forward, he is much better up there compared to Kemp. Kemp is arguably, better as a defender. Reset that experiment.

3. Motlop can play and many owe him an apology.
Was not a great night for high skill, but he got plenty of it and hit the scoreboard. Got unlucky with a couple of shots, but he will only get better and hopefully luckier. Getting runs through the middle worked wonders for him.

4. Ollie Hollands can play half back. I likened him to simmo a bit in his effort and desire.

5. Hewett is underrated.
11 clearances. 27 touches. 1 goal 1.....and some were complaining about him.  ::)

6. TDK finally has the confidence to perform consistently. Hopefully his body allows him too. We need him to stay fit.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Better....a lot of near misses
They're arguably the best side in the comp at the moment
The pressure was closer to what we need but still a way off.
Curnow's not fit.
Jack looked to play the last quarter injured.
Lucas throwing up at one stage. (I doubt it was nerves)
Sadly I've now come to accept Doc may be close to the end.
Cripps, Hewett and TDK played their guts out.
....and for FKS sake get some structure into that forward line.
A fit Charlie and Harry will help that but that may be a way off.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Quote from: kruddler – on
3. Motlop can play and many owe him an apology.
Was not a great night for high skill, but he got plenty of it and hit the scoreboard. Got unlucky with a couple of shots, but he will only get better and hopefully luckier. Getting runs through the middle worked wonders for him.

I consider Motlop an 'almost' player.
He gets to the ball (step 1)
It's the fact he's not quite clean when he gets there.
But he's close
I believe it may still come with game time.
He missed most of last season.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Interesting to see us side by side agains them and compare the disposal efficiency. It's a combination of poor option selection and poor execution. The just sliced us up with surgeon like ball move at times, we just butchered it.
The effort was there tonight, the pressure was there from both teams, elite in fact.
We just fluffed too many possessions in the second half.
Almost felt sorry for Charlie, no games whatsoever and had to come into a high stakes game like that. Needed some games in the reserves I reckon. We played one down effectively.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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PS Houston would have been a handy pick up.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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There were some flashes of good stuff but not enough and for long enough, we just don't have the list to go anywhere significant

We will never be taken seriously when we can only manage two goals in the second half of any match. Don't forget, we did the same thing last week.

Season over now ........... we are just another mid-table team who will pinch the occassional scalp along the way but that's about it.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Quote from: LordLucifer – on
There were some flashes of good stuff but not enough and for long enough, we just don't have the list to go anywhere significant

We will never be taken seriously when we can only manage two goals in the second half of any match. Don't forget, we did the same thing last week.

Season over now ........... we are just another mid-table team who will pinch the occassional scalp along the way but that's about it.
Agree, our list just isn't good enough, hasn't improved enough or in the right areas since 2023. We will beat the lesser teams if we dont make too many errors but we won't come close to the contenders.
Oh well, gonna be a long year me thinks.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Quote from: Lods – on
Lucas throwing up at one stage. (I doubt it was nerves)
BT said probably nerves. Uh it was after half time or 3/4 time I believe, I think he was physically spent! Doubt he’d be nervously vomiting halfway thru a game!

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Hard to believe Haynes was an all Australian once. Absolutely no idea running around looks like he doesn’t want the ball to come to him. Have to watch the replay but his weak hearted efforts cost us at least 4 goals. He makes Young look like a star.
Hawks certainly had the rub of the green from the umpires they got the 50/50 ones while ours were given well after 3 or 4 had already been missed.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
There were some flashes of good stuff but not enough and for long enough, we just don't have the list to go anywhere significant

We will never be taken seriously when we can only manage two goals in the second half of any match. Don't forget, we did the same thing last week.

Season over now ........... we are just another mid-table team who will pinch the occassional scalp along the way but that's about it.
Agree, our list just isn't good enough, hasn't improved enough or in the right areas since 2023. We will be the lesser teams if we dont make too many errors but we won't come close to the contenders.
Oh well, gonna be a long year me thinks.
Agree. Such a shame, didn’t have much excitement prior to the season starting and it’s obvious other teams recruited better and have overtaken us.

Can’t imagine Doch getting back to his best / such a brave guy, huge respect to him, but he seemed quite slow tonight. Shame his intent on the ball and tackle and team isn’t replicated in someone younger and fitter in our team to come thru after him 😢

Cripps Weiters TDK JSOS Hewitt good tonight.
Didn’t think Walsh did much, Acres and Cerra came in and out a bit, Jesse really needs to toughen/harden up, have repeat efforts. Hayes and McG were better but I’m still not convinced on either. Cotters better too.

Seems we don’t have footballers that anticipate the ball fall, it’s constantly chasing seconds behind - the link up of the Hawks is amazing wheh it works and we didn’t do enough to disrupt it.

Charlie had a shocker.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Quote from: 31Tommys_barber – on

Hawks certainly had the rub of the green from the umpires they got the 50/50 ones while ours were given well after 3 or 4 had already been missed.
Definitely a feel of free kick hawthorn. Of course they gave us 4-5 in the last quarter to even up those stats a bit, mostly in our D50.

What even is HTB anymore 🤷

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Quote from: Lods – on
Curnow's not fit.

Curnow is not MATCH fit. He was 2 practice matches  2 seasonal matches and a solid preseason behind his opponents tonight. Play him in the 2s....   probably not, just get games into him.

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Quote from: LordLucifer – on
There were some flashes of good stuff but not enough and for long enough, we just don't have the list to go anywhere significant

We will never be taken seriously when we can only manage two goals in the second half of any match. Don't forget, we did the same thing last week.

Season over now ........... we are just another mid-table team who will pinch the occassional scalp along the way but that's about it.

Unfortunate,  but sadly true, and to a large extent has been that way since MV took over.   More ups and downs than Dreamworld,  and more unknowns and uncertainties than Donald Dump.    0-4 seems highly likely now, in which case MV will be starting to get very nervous

Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

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Another disappointing result. The major disappointment for me is we play like that against Richmond we win, but we seem to save our worst against the worst. So I guess it was a better effort but all to no avail. We had our chances. Had 2 set shots in the 3rd and missed them both and the whorek's don't miss when they get  chance. It's all in our heads as it has been for many years now.
Painful being at the ground and having to put up with their tosser supporters. They compliment their team of flogs.