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Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #30
Read up on some history mate, atomising 8 kg of weapons grade fissionable material wasn't good for anybody.
Why do you think water tanks were banned across SA for a long period?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #31
This isn't a debate about whether something is good or bad, it's a debate / discussion I made about relative risk.

For example; Smoke detectors commonly use americium 241, it's present in the amount of a microgram or so and has a half life of only 432 years. Most have many such devices in their home, and the occupants get more radioactive isotope exposure from those detectors than all the nuclear testing ever conducted collectively.

Uranium used for weapons has a half life of 700 million to 4.3 billion of years dependant on the 235 or 238 split isotope, that determines how long it takes for half of any quantity to emit decay via an alpha particle(typically a helium nucleus). Suspensions in water are typically measured in picograms.

While you wouldn't swallow a small amount of any such material deliberately, the chance of direct harm by accidentally consuming some is vastly overstated relative to exposure to other natural sources of radioactive elements or toxic chemicals.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #32
Trump and the USA enter the conflict between Israel and Iran by bombing Fordow and associated sites which is no surprise, Im presuming we will have a rise in terrorist attacks given Iran wont be able to do much on the conventional warfare front to hit back.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/trump-says-iran-strikes-spectacular-military-success-and-warns-bully-iran-to-make-peace-or-face-greater-attacks/ar-AA1HaEZf?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=90f3385e21284febd21efc1258a9becb&ei=8

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #33
Gotta love the Trump tweet - talking about the successful bombing raid on Fordow, and ends with (in capital letters) NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE.

That's a novel way to commence diplomatic discussions.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #34
Imagine punching someone and then labelling them the bully for retaliating.

In my lifetime (since 82) the USA has been involved in more conflict in the middle east than Carlton has been premierships.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

 

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #35
Imagine punching someone and then labelling them the bully for retaliating.

In my lifetime (since 82) the USA has been involved in more conflict in the middle east than Carlton has been premierships.

There was some stat which i will bastardise, but you'll get the point.

In 240-odd years, America has been at war with 1 country or another for at least 1 day of that calandar year for 230-odd of those years.

US are the biggest bullies but have a very good propaganda machine. I mean, its so good they got trump elected.....twice!

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #36
No doubt krudd.  I want to highlight that their work is a somewhat necessary evil at times and they play a proxy role of world police, but this latest one is just an abject joke.  They dont even hide that they push their own agenda.  As soon as Iran threatened to block oil off the USA went to bomb the place.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #37
I do wonder about the thoughts that went through Trump's head (assuming there were some).
[1] smarter men with better understandings of world politics have faced similar situations (and more reason or need) and decided NOT to get directly involved. Yet, Donald goes in first first.
[2] Trump's election promise was not to get into another 'Forever War'.
[3] It would be nice to see the end of the Islamic Republic of Iran (which is neither particularly Islamic nor a republic), but what happens if the government does fall? I don't see whoever rises from the rubble being a better world citizen that the present bunch. Old maxim: when a regime is replaced by force, the successor state is usually very similar to one it replaces, even if their stated ideology is totally different. Example: Czarist Russia & the Soyuz Sovietsky Socialisti Replubliki.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: Iran, I ran so far away - flock of seagulls

Reply #38
MAGA is self-destructing now, a faint stench of anti-Semitism helped MAGA in it's foundation, and now RedTrump is assisting Israel.

They are so conflicted, they no longer know who to hate!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"