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Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #390
We'll see how all this Iran business changes things. 

America doing American things.

Good old regime change and freedom.  Without worrying about whos right and wrong how would we all like it if Xi xing ping decided to give us a regime change and some good old Chinese branded structure? 
Not sure if murica have a direction other than “a change”… structure ? Pffft
Let’s go BIG !

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #391
Labor just voted against giving Victorias anti corruption watchdog the powers it needs to investigate the 15B corruption on Vics big build projects.

All while Jacinta defends adamantly with 'they have nothing to hide.'   :o

The balanced public already know how corrupt this government is yet for those on the fence this again doesn't pass the pub test. 

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #392
The hard reality here is that Wilson has kyboshed the possibility of a One Nation deal, it's not surprising.

It's really the hard right demanding anarchy as a solution to opacity, which as I have already stated is ironic given where the money indirectly comes from for One Nation, which seems to be conveniently ignored by many that shout the loudest.

For example, how do they rationalise rallying against the sale of the Victorian port to China state owned enterprise, while still being One Nation boosters? One Nation a party that is largely funded by primary industry which earns it's cash from the sale of resources to China.

One Nation is completely foreign to the Liberal cause, the antithesis of Liberal politics. Hansen sprouts Socialist policies, closer to Communism than Liberal. Socialism and Fascism can be two sides of the same coin.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #393
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One Nation is completely foreign to the Liberal cause, the antithesis of Liberal politics. Hansen sprouts Socialist policies, closer to Communism than Liberal. Socialism and Fascism can be two sides of the same coin.

That certainly got my attention.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #394
Good old-fashioned fascism is creeping into social and political perspectives everywhere.

Maybe we can label it the Global Amnesia Pandemic, or GAP for short! Obviously there has been too long of a gap between the consequences of real global conflict, oppression and hatred as distinct from modern life.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

 

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #395
The hard reality here is that Wilson has kyboshed the possibility of a One Nation deal, it's not surprising.

It's really the hard right demanding anarchy as a solution to opacity, which as I have already stated is ironic given where the money indirectly comes from for One Nation, which seems to be conveniently ignored by many that shout the loudest.

For example, how do they rationalise rallying against the sale of the Victorian port to China state owned enterprise, while still being One Nation boosters? One Nation a party that is largely funded by primary industry which earns it's cash from the sale of resources to China.

One Nation is completely foreign to the Liberal cause, the antithesis of Liberal politics. Hansen sprouts Socialist policies, closer to Communism than Liberal. Socialism and Fascism can be two sides of the same coin.
Id be looking more at One Nation and the Libs tying the knot federally or at least jumping into bed together for preferences...latest polls have One Nation polling better than the Libs and Pauline being in essence the Opposition leader based on Polling Popularity.
Albanese has dropped a couple of percent to Taylor but that has more to do with Albo being on the nose than Taylor providing anything useful or different to Dutton or Ley.
If The Libs/Nats and One Nation did do a deal to expand the axis of evil then they would probably make it a close election next time around all be it they have a tough job to cut back Labor's large lead in the house of reps.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #396
Good old-fashioned fascism is creeping into social and political perspectives everywhere.

Maybe we can label it the Global Amnesia Pandemic, or GAP for short! Obviously there has been too long of a gap between the consequences of real global conflict, oppression and hatred as distinct from modern life.

Leaving aside the fact that too many people in lay discourse confuse and conflate fascism and authoritarianism, to say nothing of the blurring of lines and lumping together socialism, communism, Marxism, "the left" etc, I'll leave you with this : neither Hanson herself, nor any member of her party, nor any of her supporters, nor any scholar of the left, nor any students of the left, would consider One Nation to be socialist or communist, not in part, and not in whole.

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #397
Labor just voted against giving Victorias anti corruption watchdog the powers it needs to investigate the 15B corruption on Vics big build projects.

All while Jacinta defends adamantly with 'they have nothing to hide.'   :o

The balanced public already know how corrupt this government is yet for those on the fence this again doesn't pass the pub test.

That's not correct!

The Victorian Government introduced an omnibus justice bill in response to the Bondi massacre.  The opposition and cross benches tried to add a half-baked amendment that was intended to increase IBAC's powers.  The Government, as is their right, refused to allow that amendment to be passed.  No Australian government would have allowed that to happen.  It's the elected Government that sets the legislative agenda, not the opposition and cross benches.

A bipartisan parliamentary committee has made recommendations regarding IBAC's power to conduct "follow the money" investigations and the Government must table its response to those recommendations within six months.  That is the appropriate and considered approach to developing legislation.

Meanwhile, VicPol's Taskforce Hawk has laid more than 70 charges against 15 individuals involved in construction industry criminality and the Big Build.

You can certainly question the competence of the Victorian Government but that's not corruption.


"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Shawny’s concerns about Victorian and Australian Governments

Reply #398
Labor just voted against giving Victorias anti corruption watchdog the powers it needs to investigate the 15B corruption on Vics big build projects.

All while Jacinta defends adamantly with 'they have nothing to hide.'   :o

The balanced public already know how corrupt this government is yet for those on the fence this again doesn't pass the pub test.

That's not correct!

The Victorian Government introduced an omnibus justice bill in response to the Bondi massacre.  The opposition and cross benches tried to add a half-baked amendment that was intended to increase IBAC's powers.  The Government, as is their right, refused to allow that amendment to be passed.  No Australian government would have allowed that to happen.  It's the elected Government that sets the legislative agenda, not the opposition and cross benches.

A bipartisan parliamentary committee has made recommendations regarding IBAC's power to conduct "follow the money" investigations and the Government must table its response to those recommendations within six months.  That is the appropriate and considered approach to developing legislation.

Meanwhile, VicPol's Taskforce Hawk has laid more than 70 charges against 15 individuals involved in construction industry criminality and the Big Build.

You can certainly question the competence of the Victorian Government but that's not corruption.




More spin more spin

They blocked it cause they are protecting themself. Corrupt to the core.

https://greens.org.au/vic/news/media-release/labor-shuts-down-bill-give-anti-corruption-watchdog-follow-dollar-powers