FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKK !!!!!!!!!!! >:D >:D >:D
Utter devastation. BS umpiring. Feel for the boys, they deserved the win. A few umpiring decisions away from being 6-5.
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKK !!!!!!!!!!! >:D >:D >:D
Very eloquently put, and I agree.
Pretty much our trademark for the last couple of years...
Runner running into Robinson at the end should've given us a free kick...and the game.....but we were wearing Navy Blue...too bad.
fking umpire CNTs
MENZEL right in front - fkn CARNTSSSSS!
Anyway. This has to be the benchmark. No more BS performances, this effort shows our team has what it takes to play finals.
Runner running into Robinson at the end should've given us a free kick...and the game.....but we were wearing Navy Blue...too bad.
I saw that, it was just about in the goal-square too !!
We just don't know how to finish off all of the hard work, á lot of it is between the ears.
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKK !!!!!!!!!!! >:D >:D >:D
Language, Sheik, language.
All that good money your parents spent on education.
And you still can't spell "despair".
Utter devastation. BS umpiring. Feel for the boys, they deserved the win. A few umpiring decisions away from being 6-5.
Now you might get a feel for what happened last week!
2 weeks in a row we've been screwed.
If we hadn't ran over a black cat at the start of the year we could seriously be 8-3 instead of 4-7. (Tigers, Dees, Lions, Cats)
Its not our year when $hit like that continues to happen.
Even James Kelly said that Menzel could well have been paid the free, and given his bias that means it should definitely have been paid if the opposition saw it.
Well done boys. Proud of the effort and apart from a couple of umpiring decisions should have won.
Jamo should have played on Hawkins from the start
I wonder if we can back up next week
There will be lots of positives to talk about through the week.....but just at the moment I'm shattered.
I'm FARKIN ANGRY !!!! >:D >:D >:D
Absolutely CRAP umpiring.. GRRRRRRRRRRRR
Runner running into Robinson at the end should've given us a free kick...and the game.....but we were wearing Navy Blue...too bad.
And too high to Menzel
And throw out of a pack which resulted in the Hawkins kick at goal that was called play on
And.....how many more do you want.
Iv'e always been one to say that if your good enough, the umps wont come into it no matter how bad they are..................btu tonight we were fair dinkum robbed. MM better step up to the plate and berate the bejesus out of them in his presser!!!!@!
Robbo should have dropped the prick
Will anything be done about this? No. Someone needs to explain to me what it is Wayne Campbell does. If he takes no action against tonights umps its a farking joke. Spewing. This is a win we deserved and earnt. Fark sellwood, fark hawkins, fark geelong. Sick of these arrogant pr1cks.
And by the way is Chris Scott the most charmed darken coach of all time. His reaction to a Carlton free kick tonight was farcical. Can't stand him
Utter devastation. BS umpiring. Feel for the boys, they deserved the win. A few umpiring decisions away from being 6-5.
Now you might get a feel for what happened last week!
2 weeks in a row we've been screwed.
If we hadn't ran over a black cat at the start of the year we could seriously be 8-3 instead of 4-7. (Tigers, Dees, Lions, Cats)
Its not our year when $hit like that continues to happen.
It's not luck, it's fear.
When Selwood played Freo he called the umps "screwing cheats" does it every week, never gets pulled for it.
Umps know there's no repercussions from screwing us.
Runner running into Robinson at the end should've given us a free kick...and the game.....but we were wearing Navy Blue...too bad.
I saw that, it was just about in the goal-square too !!
We just don't know how to finish off all of the hard work, á lot of it is between the ears.
Though we've won two tight games this year as well. They've got some sort of voodoo curse on us beating us 12 times as Etihad.
I didn't blame the umpires last week because we should have been six goals ahead, but they killed us in that last quarter and the whole game.
And, in the end, we just lack the finishing skills and the finesse. Players like Garlett who do stupid things every week drive me insane. And players like Armfield go missing. Murphy was good - but Selwood is a true leader.
Murphy only 20 touches but I reckon that's the best game I've seen him play leadership wise.
Gibbs enormous.
Yarran lazy.
Garlett weak.
Menzel pretty much turned the game in the third quarter on his own. Amazing stuff.
Thomas really stood up.
JUst can't believe we walk away with nothing.
Robbo should have dropped the prick
Haha spot on
Poor umpiring again.........
Great effort tho, really proud of the performance
Now we have to hear how much of a warrior J.Selwood is. ::)
Personally, i wouldn't have paid the Menzel one.
If you pay that, then you have to pay about 3-4 others that happened in the same area, most of which went to Geelong.
Still, that didn't cost us the game. Many other bad calls did.
And we have the Hawks next weeks. Haven't beaten them this century.
McIntosh is the worst ruckman going around. Bloody HACK !
He never played the ball at the centre contest and the umps let it go on all night.
Selwood cheats cos the maggots never pick him up. Best throw since the London Olympics.
The wankers can't bounce the ball for sh1te. They should stick to throwing it up like the nancy's they are..... GRRRRRRRR
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKK !!!!!!!!!!! >:D >:D >:D
Language, Sheik, language.
All that good money your parents spent on education.
And you still can't spell "despair".
It was all in anger Ivan, I nearly punched holes in the keyboard I was typing so hard. :P
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRKKK !!!!!!!!!!! >:D >:D >:D
Did you actually say anything in the in-game thread other than to jinx us?
Heart breaking loss but I am happy with the application tonight. The players put plenty of pressure on and didn't let the opposition run away with it. Menzel and Doc did good things and Thomas played a game where he did a lot out of little.
Johnson started to get a bit of it but I thought Carrots started to get some touch again.
Army started on fire and then disappeared, Waite and Hendo WTF? Pretty much over Waite.
We seemed to use the space on the ground far more and went short rather than long by the boundary. I think this style suits us better.
Thought Carrazzo showed us he has plenty to offer if he stays fit. Started to look the goods as the game wore on.
Consecutive weeks we led by 16 in the last quarter and blew it.
Imagine if we had a contribution from Hendo and Waite.....
Absolute schmizen. Fug!! That screwing Timber Yard kicks the winning goal too. screw off!!!!
Worst display of umpiring I've ever seen. Total BS. Think of all the shyte that went against us and look at the final margin. Disguster!
Personally, i wouldn't have paid the Menzel one.
If you pay that, then you have to pay about 3-4 others that happened in the same area, most of which went to Geelong.
Still, that didn't cost us the game. Many other bad calls did.
Agreed. There was far worse than that in the last that should have been paid. The Waite push in the back was insane. And then there's the worst ball up in history that ends up in a farcical goal. Right there is the football game.
Why didn't we milk the clock and slow it down, stay man-on-man and squeeze them into oblivion ??
They are showing the Menzel head-high now on the TV, another disgraceful decision.
Gibbs BOG and plays like an A grader but Selwood steals the glory ,...hard to take,,,brave effort but the couple of passengers we had probab;ly cost us the game.
re: Menzel.....they didnt pay those free kicks all night so I knew he wanst going to get that last one ....
F.....g Green Cheats got em up.....what a disgrace....little turds....great effort by the boys thwarted by these toads....
also...J Garlett needs to have a real good look in the mirror...he won't like what he see's I reckon... >:(
Did the replay show Waite kicking the goal on the line or not in the 3rd??
Gibbs BOG and plays like an A grader but Selwood steals the glory ,...hard to take,,,brave effort but the couple of passengers we had probab;ly cost us the game.
The whole thing has ruined my long weekend. No freaking justice. And the thing is no one - at least on Foxtel - are talking about the awful umpiring. Campbell will rest on his laurels.
Did the replay show Waite kicking the goal on the line or not in the 3rd??
Barely showed the replay, thats one example as to when to use the system...............
Did the replay show Waite kicking the goal on the line or not in the 3rd??
Yep !! But that is one of many for the night....
If your name ends in Waite, the umps don't give you anything, but 50's and frees against.
re: Menzel.....they didnt pay those free kicks all night so I knew he wants going to get that last one ....
Kudos to the kid for going that hard though.
And throw out of a pack which resulted in the Hawkins kick at goal that was called play on
Dead set beautiful throw/scoop.
But it's a game of inches. Geelong just know how to win those games by managing to be in the right position at the fall of the ball. Cue the recruiting vs. development debate.
Once again, lost count of the number of times we turned an attacking move into an easy goal for them via turnovers. McLean's smothered handpass most glaring. If that ball popped over the top we were away. Instead ... Geelong goal. Brock turned it over a few times tonight but wasn't Pat Malone.
Still gobsmacked that Garlett can get a game. Someone called him a good "opportunistic" footballer in another thread. Surely that's the most derogatory adjective in today's game. Can't win his own ball - reduced to feeding on scraps like a seagull. Basically a parasite which may do well on weakened clubs but can't survive against strong, disciplined teams.
And there's David King in the War Room not mentioning the umpiring but saying that it was the leadership group that win it for the Cats. Yeah there's truth in that. McLean not covering Selwood was terrible. But it's not even half the story.
also...J Garlett needs to have a real good look in the mirror...he won't like what he see's I reckon... >:(
Can Buckley play his role?? He wouldn't duck his head!
Who says umpires don't cost you games? Disgraceful! Long drive home.
Mark Stevens is a screwing flog.
Did the replay show Waite kicking the goal on the line or not in the 3rd??
Couldn't really tell. They showed the angle from behind Waite.
Not sure why they go to the video when it's 100 points deep into the last but not in that scenario - probably couldn't tell anything anyway.
In all my time I cant ever remember posting we'd lost a game because of umpiring....I usually just accept it....but after the last two weeks if Mick wants to have a crack I reckon we should pass the tin around to pay his fine. >:(
We would ve won if Nick Graham played lol
And there's David King in the War Room not mentioning the umpiring but saying that it was the leadership group that win it for the Cats. Yeah there's truth in that. McLean not covering Selwood was terrible. But it's not even half the story.
Mclean was too slow to be on Selwood IMO and had already turned the ball over a couple of times and I dont know what Mick was doing there...ditto with White coming on who also looked
off the pace of the game. I would have left Waite on....
Did the replay show Waite kicking the goal on the line or not in the 3rd??
Couldn't really tell. They showed the angle from behind Waite.
Not sure why they go to the video when it's 100 points deep into the last but not in that scenario - probably couldn't tell anything anyway.
The joke is that the Ch7 telecast is in SD and so you can barely tell what's going on when they do the review. It's why very few get over turned.
Did the replay show Waite kicking the goal on the line or not in the 3rd??
The Geelong bloke got a hand on it before the line.
Worst non decision of the night was not calling the bounce back, Warnock had no chance to get near it, the rest of them are always a toss up.
It was a great game and we had a red hot crack, a few more marks inside 50 and we win but we all know we need a key forward.
Casboult has a go and works hard but crikey, if you can't kick a football you're wasting your time really.
Henderson went OK but we need more contested marks from him, Waite is in the horrors and should be in the VFL next week.
That was the difference in the end, they had Hawkins and we had no one, but we still ran them to a kick.
I can see a future there but we just must recruit a ready to go forward no matter what it costs.
I was proud of my team tonight.
We would ve won if Nick Graham played lol
What if Judd had been the sub????
Ps - this umpiring is really a chance to have me stop watching. Bounce not recalled, Waite in the back, Waite score review, Mendel free, about 15 holding the balls.......
What about the goal they got when Yazz was held off the ball... Nothing given... Geelong get a goal.
We would ve won if Nick Graham played lol
What if Judd had been the sub????
;D
That one hurt!
I call Shenanigans on umpiring. SHENANIGANS!
Gee whizz that C. Scott's a smarmy git.
Every time they asked him about a dubious decision that went against us he pulled a supposedly anti-Geelong decision out of his proverbial. Seemed to be fuming about the Hawkins play-on shot at goal. FMD. Twirp.
Havent read the previous posts but did anyone else notice how lazy and disinterested garlett looked late in the game.
Yes he is fast and can crumb a nice goal but FMD when the heat is on his a pussy and prefers to watch then gets his hands dirty. I couldn't believe seeing the fastest player on the ground stand idle in the centre while the opposition had the ball not 5 metres from him. Cant possibly keep his spot next wel against hawks.
And how many overhead marks did he drop when hearing footsteps. Good teams don't carry players like that.
Can blame the umpires again all we like but in the last 5 mins those smoothers, pressure and tackling they put on us lead to their goals.
Why the f*** is our defence so open when they needed to kick 2 goals in the last 2 mins?
Surely we can send spares back at that stage.
So often do we get in a winning position against a good team but just seem to lack the smarts to hold on.
We can do it against average teams but not the better ones.
Knew that result was coming in the dying minutes but so gutted to watch that ducking smiling pr1ck selwood kick the winning ball after doing stuff all during the whole game.
Those who reckon we can afford to trade Casboult better watch this game.
This putting the whistle away crap that morons like Mark Stevens go on about is rubbish.
A free is a free whether its in the first minute or last minute of a game.
End of story.
Its just the AFL and journos protecting knob umpires again.
Zac 2E can go and get forked!
What did Mark Stevens say?
Mick has decided to cop a fine. God love him
He is paying out on the umpiring on seven right now. Says it all.
Malthouse has just had a very polite and well-worded shot a the umpires, nothing to earn a fine over but made some very good & salient points.
And there's David King in the War Room not mentioning the umpiring but saying that it was the leadership group that win it for the Cats. Yeah there's truth in that. McLean not covering Selwood was terrible. But it's not even half the story.
who kicked geelongs winning goal?
Mick reasonable happy
Players played with more urgency and passion than last week.
Mentioned robbo blocked by runner
Not happy with Menzel decision
Disappointed with the umpiring. Said players on both sides were brave and the umpires should have made the brave call
Will speak to umpires to get clarification on decisions, talked to them last week
Pleased with the start. Ordinary in the second and couldn't hold onto the ball
Mentioned Selwood and would love him in the side
Wanted to put Jamo on Hawkins in the second but was injured. Says Jamo has issues to deal with
Smashed in the stoppages in the last
Pretty good job.
Malthouse has just had a very polite and well-worded shot a the umpires, nothing to earn a fine over but made some very good & salient points.
Said we contacted the umpires during the week to seek some explanations about last week and they never got back to us.
A big monster in the fwd line who can kick straight is handy.
What is more painful than losing a game like this is the fact that we play that well against a team like Geelong and if we play like that against teams like Brisbane we win easily
You can analyse and blame all you like but, with 2 mins to go when u have your nose in front, you just have to get numbers around the ball, defend like fork and win the game. It's that simple.
Malthouse has just had a very polite and well-worded shot a the umpires, nothing to earn a fine over but made some very good & salient points.
Said we contacted the umpires during the week to seek some explanations about last week and they never got back to us.
It was constructive rather than a rant aimed to belittle the umps. Something that should happen more often within reason. Hate it how its all hush hush when it comes to umps. If u can offer something constructive great, if you can't then don't say anything.
The thread heading is a disgrace - we were not robbed by the Cats - they were always going to win
The cats list have clean superb skills plus heart
We have messy poor skills with occasional heart lapses
Speaking of lapses, reckon the umps had another one here:
http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-football-blog/lappin-shouldnt-have-been-there-stokes/20140606-39p54.html
The thread heading is a disgrace - we were not robbed by the Cats - they were always going to win
The cats list have clean superb skills plus heart
We have messy poor skills with occasional heart lapses
Yes Mosquito.
Umps have no bearing on the result.
When the even handed Lods is drawn to criticize you know it's a bad night.
Garlett needs quiet and serious words spoken to him....if not he should be moved on....
Gibbs - i have been a big critic - HIS BEST GAME IN BLUE TONIGHT - CONGRATULATIONS !!
Seconds left, No free kick.
(http://images.3aw.com.au/2014/06/06/5491338/ROBINSON.jpg)
Casboult and Rowe - honourable mentions...
Anyway. This has to be the benchmark. No more BS performances, this effort shows our team has what it takes to play finals.
Has what it takes, but wont this year. Season is shot. Hard to get exited knowingnothing to play for.
You can analyse and blame all you like but, with 2 mins to go when u have your nose in front, you just have to get numbers around the ball, defend like fork and win the game. It's that simple.
Yeah when your playing against players that works....... Bot harder when your playing the umps
That runner laying the block is triple premiership player Nigel Lappin for the record.
You can analyse and blame all you like but, with 2 mins to go when u have your nose in front, you just have to get numbers around the ball, defend like fork and win the game. It's that simple.
Yeah when your playing against players that works....... Bot harder when your playing the umps
no mate, they need to learn to strip it all back to basics. 2 games in row we had won and threw away. Add to these the Rich game and all of a sudden, season looks completely different.
Yeah umpiring was bad, but really. we had that game by the balls yet again and fobbed it.
Did not see much of the game tonight as i was working out at Gate 1 at Etihad. Was at the Carlton end to knew when we kicked goals.
Also got to go on the ground just before final siren. I was kneeling down in front of Advertising sign where Selwood got that goal.
Fair to say i was shattered.
Ed Curnow came up to me wanting to know how to get down to the carpark. Asked him about his leg. he said he was
around 2 weeks ago. Seemed to be waling fine. No limp
Wow......
Feeling a lot of pride and a lot of hurt tonight.
As I mentioned in BOG thread, name me a better all round performance from a non-Judd Carlton midfielder in the last 10 years. Bryce played every bit like an $800k a year midfielder tonight.
Jamo and Rowe's 2nd halves were outstanding. Daisy's 3rd quarter was outstanding. Jeffy's now habitual head-ducking in marking contests.....disturbing.
Umpiring......beyond belief. Could officially be called cheating.
Geelong coach: first class wanker.
Carlton Football Club: pride restored.
Wow......
Feeling a lot of pride and a lot of hurt tonight.
As I mentioned in BOG thread, name me a better all round performance from a non-Judd Carlton midfielder in the last 10 years. Bryce played every bit like an $800k a year midfielder tonight.
Jamo and Rowe's 2nd halves were outstanding. Daisy's 3rd quarter was outstanding. Jeffy's now habitual head-ducking in marking contests.....disturbing.
Umpiring......beyond belief. Could officially be called cheating.
Geelong coach: first class wanker.
Carlton Football Club: pride restored.
sums it up well bman
Oh and Big Levi may butcher a kick or two, but fcuk me he gives absolutely everything he has out on the field....he does the attacking stuff, he does the defensive stuff, he takes marks in the goalsquare, he shares the ruck duties, the guy is a Goliath out there. He's a deadset keeper for mine. As Waite and Hendo continue to wallow in their own personal putridness, Levi shines like a beacon as far as I'm concerned.
Yep very proud
Oh and Big Levi May butcher a kick or two, but fcuk me he gives absolutely everything he has out on the field....he does the attacking stuff, he does the defensive stuff, he takes marks in the goalsquare, he shares the ruck duties, the guy is a Goliath out there. He's a deadset keeper for mine. As Waite and Hendo continue to wallow in their own personal putridness, Levi shines like a beacon as far as I'm concerned.
again spot on
Oh and Big Levi May butcher a kick or two, but fcuk me he gives absolutely everything he has out on the field....he does the attacking stuff, he does the defensive stuff, he takes marks in the goalsquare, he shares the ruck duties, the guy is a Goliath out there. He's a deadset keeper for mine. As Waite and Hendo continue to wallow in their own personal putridness, Levi shines like a beacon as far as I'm concerned.
Agree. Needs to get his kicking sorted. Does that and he would be a complete player
Wow......
Feeling a lot of pride and a lot of hurt tonight.
As I mentioned in BOG thread, name me a better all round performance from a non-Judd Carlton midfielder in the last 10 years. Bryce played every bit like an $800k a year midfielder tonight.
Jamo and Rowe's 2nd halves were outstanding. Daisy's 3rd quarter was outstanding. Jeffy's now habitual head-ducking in marking contests.....disturbing.
Umpiring......beyond belief. Could officially be called cheating.
Geelong coach: first class wanker.
Carlton Football Club: pride restored.
I am not proud..there has been too many honorable losses since the Ratten era and is continuing and I am sick of it
The list is clearly deficient, not a Premiership list. The Board has to accept and take the decision to allow the football club to make the hard call on alot of players, recruit deep and grow a quality playing list of 28-30 players like Geelong are doing now, rather than patch up with band aid recruits....
And even though they clearly won't be reading this; to the middle-aged couple who sat next to us at the game as 'Unbiased Collingwood supporters' (as they told me pre-game), only to then proceed to barrack for Geelong as if it were their beloved Pies playing......the both of you can go and get fcuked. Pardon the language, but that really annoyed the hell outta me for some reason.
Oh and Big Levi May butcher a kick or two, but fcuk me he gives absolutely everything he has out on the field....he does the attacking stuff, he does the defensive stuff, he takes marks in the goalsquare, he shares the ruck duties, the guy is a Goliath out there. He's a deadset keeper for mine. As Waite and Hendo continue to wallow in their own personal putridness, Levi shines like a beacon as far as I'm concerned.
Agree. Needs to get his kicking sorted. Does that and he would be a complete player
We ve been saying that for 5 years.
FIVE YEARS in the AFL system and he still cant kick !!
And even though they clearly won't be reading this; to the middle-aged couple who sat next to us at the game as 'Unbiased Collingwood supporters' (as they told me pre-game), only to then proceed to barrack for Geelong as if it were their beloved Pies playing......the both of you can go and get fcuked. Pardon the language, but that really annoyed the hell outta me for some reason.
Return the favour Brettie when the filth play the Swans next.
The thread heading is a disgrace - we were not robbed by the Cats - they were always going to win
The cats list have clean superb skills plus heart
We have messy poor skills with occasional heart lapses
Did you watch the game with your eyes shut? The Cats butchered the ball as much as we did. They were off their game a fair bit of the night - which was caused by our intensity.
I am not proud..there has been too many honorable losses since the Ratten era and is continuing and I am sick of it
The list is clearly deficient, not a Premiership list. The Board has to accept and take the decision to allow the football club to make the hard call on alot of players, recruit deep and grow a quality playing list of 28-30 players like Geelong are doing now, rather than patch up with band aid recruits....
Sad you feel that way MF. You say the list is clearly deficient, yet we run a team like Geelong to within a kick, in a game we should've won. Not bad for such a krap team? Yep, definitely a lot of pride from my end.
The thread heading is a disgrace - we were not robbed by the Cats - they were always going to win
The cats list have clean superb skills plus heart
We have messy poor skills with occasional heart lapses
Did you watch the game with your eyes shut? The Cats butchered the ball as much as we did. They were off their game a fair bit of the night - which was caused by our intensity.
Totally agree stickman.....said exactly the same thing at 3/4 time. Cats were dog awful at times tonight, but on the flip side, also had patches of brilliance we can only wish for in our lads.
What did Mark Stevens say?
Dismissed the Menzel free kick as "wasn't there", and within minutes of discussing it with Duck, he 'conceded' it was "line ball". Wanker. Went onto say he would grill Malthouse at his presser by asking him why he didn't move Jamison on Tommahawk earlier. Yeah, what courage ::)
It ended up with the tool not asking him that question (some other journo did), but you could hear the dopey git speak to Malthouse by making a statement rather than ask a question. Malthouse just looked at him with arms out stretched and giving him a "you are an idiot" look.
Mark Stevens is a real 'hero'
The thread heading is a disgrace - we were not robbed by the Cats - they were always going to win
The cats list have clean superb skills plus heart
We have messy poor skills with occasional heart lapses
Did you watch the game with your eyes shut? The Cats butchered the ball as much as we did. They were off their game a fair bit of the night - which was caused by our intensity.
Totally agree stickman.....said exactly the same thing at 3/4 time. Cats were dog awful at times tonight, but on the flip side, also had patches of brilliance we can only wish for in our lads.
It's damn hard to keep that entire team down for the whole game. Just too many quality players to combat. Having a target up forward like Hawkins is pretty handy.
Gibbs was awesome tonight. Best game I've seen him play TBH.
Proud of the way they played. The misses at goal pisss me off to the point that i CBF. The umpires over compensated for their over interference last week.
Oh and Big Levi may butcher a kick or two, but fcuk me he gives absolutely everything he has out on the field....he does the attacking stuff, he does the defensive stuff, he takes marks in the goalsquare, he shares the ruck duties, the guy is a Goliath out there. He's a deadset keeper for mine. As Waite and Hendo continue to wallow in their own personal putridness, Levi shines like a beacon as far as I'm concerned.
If only he could kick ............ *looks for praying emoticon*.
Oh and Big Levi may butcher a kick or two, but fcuk me he gives absolutely everything he has out on the field....he does the attacking stuff, he does the defensive stuff, he takes marks in the goalsquare, he shares the ruck duties, the guy is a Goliath out there. He's a deadset keeper for mine. As Waite and Hendo continue to wallow in their own personal putridness, Levi shines like a beacon as far as I'm concerned.
If only he could kick ............ *looks for praying emoticon*.
Problem is he only has a portion of the attributes needed to make a really good player. If he at least made up for missing attribute, with an over abundance of humility and a strong desire to play for blues, then you'd persist. But if he reckons he's already there I'd let him go.
Nah he has all the attributes.....other than goal kicking. Tell me how many players in the AFL can clunk marks like that? Maybe 2 or 3?
Nah he has all the attributes.....other than goal kicking. Tell me how many players in the AFL can clunk marks like that? Maybe 2 or 3?
Agree. Casboult has the rare talent of taking big marks in traffic - who else on our list presently or in recent times has that ability? I am sure the club are working on his kicking and we just have to hope he get's better. Remember Travis Cloke is similar in front of goal at times.
I'd be more worried about Hendo than Casboult.......
talk about hero to zero...
I'd be more worried about Hendo than Casboult.......
talk about hero to zero...
Hendo must be injured
He had surgery and an interupted pre season?
I'd be more worried about Hendo than Casboult.......
talk about hero to zero...
Hendo must be injured
He had surgery and an interupted pre season?
Only played on game for the NB before playing round 1
Casboult while having many good aspects to his game is going to have improve his kicking or be replaced down forward...we cant afford to have a KP forward who misses
so many goals. You must be able to convert to win finals and you only get so many chances to put good teams away before the momentum shifts and they get their turn and as Hawkins showed straight kicking keeps you in games even when you are playing average like Geelong were.
Casboult while having many good aspects to his game is going to have improve his kicking or be replaced down forward...we cant afford to have a KP forward who misses
so many goals. You must be able to convert to win finals and you only get so many chances to put good teams away before the momentum shifts and they get their turn and as Hawkins showed straight kicking keeps you in games even when you are playing average like Geelong were.
This is my big knock on the guy too. He does everything right but taking a set shot at goal, we already know the result before he's kicked it.
He has to be given another season to rectify that fault otherwise, at the end of 2015, we will have to cut our losses.
Would we get rid of Warnock too for the fact he can't mark?
Oh and Big Levi may butcher a kick or two, but fcuk me he gives absolutely everything he has out on the field....he does the attacking stuff, he does the defensive stuff, he takes marks in the goalsquare, he shares the ruck duties, the guy is a Goliath out there. He's a deadset keeper for mine. As Waite and Hendo continue to wallow in their own personal putridness, Levi shines like a beacon as far as I'm concerned.
Many on this site berated and ridiculed me for supporting Casboult, so great to read some unrestrained praise for the big man.
At the other end of the spectrum, Brock McLean. It's so hard to watch him running on the spot, handpassing to the opposition and generally farking things up (think selwood). Surely Graham can't be worse??
Didn't someone on here back the cats in by five goals? haha. So many what if's again.
We weren't physically butchered by the pussy's like we have been in the past. I think it was the other way around this time. We're nearly there, just need some more polish and cut out those dumb errors or even halve them will be enough.
The decision to let Betts go and not put Garlett on the trade table is hurting us.
Casboult while having many good aspects to his game is going to have improve his kicking or be replaced down forward...we cant afford to have a KP forward who misses
so many goals. You must be able to convert to win finals and you only get so many chances to put good teams away before the momentum shifts and they get their turn and as Hawkins showed straight kicking keeps you in games even when you are playing average like Geelong were.
This is my big knock on the guy too. He does everything right but taking a set shot at goal, we already know the result before he's kicked it.
He has to be given another season to rectify that fault otherwise, at the end of 2015, we will have to cut our losses.
Can't imagine it would be too difficult to get a Brereton or Carey or whoever to come in and correct the kid's technique.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the blatant push-in-the-back that should have been given to Murphy just before the Menzel free? That was the worst decision of the night, and that is really saying something! >:( >:( >:( >:(
Oh and Big Levi may butcher a kick or two, but fcuk me he gives absolutely everything he has out on the field....he does the attacking stuff, he does the defensive stuff, he takes marks in the goalsquare, he shares the ruck duties, the guy is a Goliath out there. He's a deadset keeper for mine. As Waite and Hendo continue to wallow in their own personal putridness, Levi shines like a beacon as far as I'm concerned.
Not for mine Brettie.
He works his ring off and gives it everything but his skills are deplorable, worse than Hampson's.
Handballs regularly miss targets, kicks are easily smothered because he lacks awareness and his general kicking skills are beyond bad, there are much better kicks playing suburban football.
Did any Carlton supporter honestly give him better than a 10% chance when he lined up those two set shots from 40 metres?
Waite and Henderson are struggling for form but with them you know they are capable of playing top football, Levi is just close your eyes and pray whenever he gets the ball.
I love his attitude and the way he goes about it, but he'll never make an AFL footballer in my opinion, if we got a half decent trade offer we'd be insane not to take it.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the blatant push-in-the-back that should have been given to Murphy just before the Menzel free? That was the worst decision of the night, and that is really saying something! >:( >:( >:( >:(
I thought the one against Yarran was more obvious, running onto the ball and clearly grabbed and retarded from behind with the umpire having a clear view, just a very basic holding the man decision that any junior umpire would pay.
That, and the shocking centre bounce that wasn't recalled, the umpires didn't have a great night.
Having said that we were in a position to win and couldn't, same as last week.
Oh and Big Levi may butcher a kick or two, but fcuk me he gives absolutely everything he has out on the field....he does the attacking stuff, he does the defensive stuff, he takes marks in the goalsquare, he shares the ruck duties, the guy is a Goliath out there. He's a deadset keeper for mine. As Waite and Hendo continue to wallow in their own personal putridness, Levi shines like a beacon as far as I'm concerned.
Not for mine Brettie.
He works his ring off and gives it everything but his skills are deplorable, worse than Hampson's.
Handballs regularly miss targets, kicks are easily smothered because he lacks awareness and his general kicking skills are beyond bad, there are much better kicks playing suburban football.
Did any Carlton supporter honestly give him better than a 10% chance when he lined up those two set shots from 40 metres?
Waite and Henderson are struggling for form but with them you know they are capable of playing top football, Levi is just close your eyes and pray whenever he gets the ball.
I love his attitude and the way he goes about it, but he'll never make an AFL footballer in my opinion, if we got a half decent trade offer we'd be insane not to take it.
Levi does a lot of good things, but his goal kicking is an issue - assuming it can be fixed, it needs to happen pronto. If Mick can't get it fixed, and he wants to persist with Levi, then he can only really be played out of the goal square, because kicking from anywhere else is a liability. I love Levi and want him to succeed, but his goal kicking will (and has) cost us games.
I'd love to know how 3 umpires failed to see Lappin... he was wearing fluro green ffs.
lEVI HAS PLAYED 24 SENIOR GAMES IN HIS CAREER - KIVE THE 199CM, 104KG KID A BREAK.....
how long did it take Hawkins to get an act ffs.
Plenty of other out there last night who should be looked at before Levi.....
Wayne Campbell... Bounce should have been recalled, was an error. Menzel should have been paid a free kick, umpire couldn't see. Runner interference.... no free kick.
Runner interference.... no free kick.
So the umpires got it wrong a couple of weeks ago when they paid a couple of free kicks to Geelong against the Freo runner?
Runner interference.... no free kick.
So the umpires got it wrong a couple of weeks ago when they paid a couple of free kicks to Geelong against the Freo runner?
Said it had no impact on the play, as it was a stoppage. Clearly impacted the player (and the actual rule talks about player interference )and runners should not be allowed that close to a stoppage. Blatant cheating for mine.
Should be suspended or fined.
lEVI HAS PLAYED 24 SENIOR GAMES IN HIS CAREER - KIVE THE 199CM, 104KG KID A BREAK.....
how long did it take Hawkins to get an act ffs.
Plenty of other out there last night who should be looked at before Levi.....
Casboult is 24, when Hawkins was 24 he went within a whisker of a Norm Smith Medal.
In his first 19 games Hawkins kicked 25.15, over his career to date he's kicked 250.140 converting at about 64%, Fevola converted at about 61% over his career.
Levi is converting at about 40% so far, not counting the out of bounds and those that pull up short like the one that Warnock marked last night.
Levi wasn't our worst last night but any thoughts that he'll turn it all around with more experience is just wishful thinking in my opinion, he's 24 years old and has been in the AFL system for 4 or 5 years, what you see is what you get.
Any comparisons between Hawkins and Casboult are as crazy as the comparisons that were made between Hampson and Natanui three or four years ago.
The hardest thing to swallow is that Geelong were ordinary for mine last night and almost every other team could have beat them last night.
Jamo was amazing looked like he was on one arm and one leg.
Garlett is gone. Missed two marks because he soiled himself. Playing like he knows he is gone and we need to keep whatever currency he has up.
Now that I've calmed down, I'd like to note some positives:
-Menzel: is going to be a gem.
-Docherty: Looks like we've picked up a 200+ gamer. Very impressive for a 20yr old.
-Docherty: Looks like we've picked up a 200+ gamer. Very impressive for a 20yr old.
I didn't see last week's game so don't know how he was there but you could see the confidence grow in the kid over the course of the game as he started to drill some sizzling kicks. That last kick which he scrubbed was cruel and I didn't see any of his teammates go to him and just give him a pat and say don't worry about it. So I hope it doesn't play on his mind going forward.
Menzel will be our next freak show. No doubt about it. Look forward to many years of Yarran and Menzel doing crazy stuff :))
That did my head in last night, being my birthday yesterday, I thought what a great win to cap off the day :'(
Murphy - Looked like a Carlton captain, dug in took punishment and tried his guts out when it was needed. How he didn't get a free when Selwood got him in the head when running past was beyond me.
Gibbs - Great game, but.... at the end of the game 95% of the other players looked shattered, Bryce was calmy shaking hands. Am I being too critical but then when I saw the players hurting, I was hurting as was every other supporter, it looked to me as if he was satisfied with his game. Again great game though. The midfield agrees with him.
Thomas - Ballistic Daisy is on his way back, he is what the team needs and you can see it building. Probably won't see it until next year but more than happy with his performance last night.
Docherty - Great get, has some wheels, football brain and mostly very good skills. I can't wait to see what he'll do with a pre season under his belt. Another 5kgs and a couple of years experience and we have an AA for Hampson :))
Yarran - Starting to be the player we want and need. When Chris gets the ball I almost breathe a sigh of relief, he has worked on his spoiling, hold back a couple of paces then jumping and spoiling. While he will never be a lock down defender, Yazz does enough not to be exposed in defence. I saw Carrots say he looked lazy, I say I looked stuffed. Very rarely do you get a mix of explosive pace and endurance and Yazz will never be that elite runner, but a burst player who can break open the game.
Menzel - Only 19 and looks like he will be the leader of the forward line in years to come. Smart, skilled with a touch of mongrel. I LIKE! Did a couple of too cute things that will need to be whipped out of him and needs to build the tank some more but he has a couple of seasons to do that. Hold together Lars.
Rowe - I normally groan when Sam get near it, and in the first half he was playing out of his division in size and skill, but a switch was flicked when he was moved to Walker, he looked the better player in the one on one contest for the first time in his career. He bualked then stepped round a player kicking the ball to our advantage. I was all for getting rid of Rowe but if we see more of this then I'm happy to stand corrected.
Casboult - I echo the sentiments around here, it's only the most important skill in football that he's bad at for a forward. I just wonder have they tried hypno-therapy? It seems to have worked well for Port, it helps smokers, I'd be giving it a try for Levi. He is an elite mark and as that second ruck option is getting much better.
Robbo - No kicks aroud corners from clearences to the opposition, if thay can stay out of his game then he stays in the seniors at Carlton for as long as his body is able to let him.
Go get the green maggots Mick. Someone needs to stand up and have a crack at the crap level of umpiring this year which we seem to be getting the arse end of.
Proud of the effort last nigth, hate the result.
Have either of the Scott twins ever had a free kick paid against them that was deserved. Hawkins was taking too long all night long, I'm glad he was called to play on. I also am gladd when Sellars had a shot at Scott and said for the first time in his career he may have to coach the side now.
So what is the official AFL rule re runners getting in the way of players - anyone have a link?
Gibbs - Great game, but.... at the end of the game 95% of the other players looked shattered, Bryce was calmy shaking hands. Am I being too critical but then when I saw the players hurting, I was hurting as was every other supporter, it looked to me as if he was satisfied with his game. Again great game though. The midfield agrees with him.
He looked devastated straight after the siren.
Gibbs - Great game, but.... at the end of the game 95% of the other players looked shattered, Bryce was calmy shaking hands. Am I being too critical but then when I saw the players hurting, I was hurting as was every other supporter, it looked to me as if he was satisfied with his game. Again great game though. The midfield agrees with him.
He looked devastated straight after the siren.
I'm glad cause the shots on TV showed heaps of others looking distraught but not Bryce.
Wayne Campbell... Bounce should have been recalled, was an error. Menzel should have been paid a free kick, umpire couldn't see. Runner interference.... no free kick.
This makes me feel a lot better....................................not
In the second half, Sam Rowe showed confidence I hadn't seen before, in that his only party trick wasn't just punching the ball but that he was prepared to take a mark if that was the preferred option.
6 marks ended up being a good return and his accuracy in front of goal is a bonus if he drifts down.
Yes, good on Rowe for not dropping his head.
I don't understand why Mick refuses to move Hendo when he is badly out of touch.
That did my head in last night, being my birthday yesterday, I thought what a great win to cap off the day :'(
Murphy - Looked like a Carlton captain, dug in took punishment and tried his guts out when it was needed. How he didn't get a free when Selwood got him in the head when running past was beyond me.
Gibbs - Great game, but....................
Raydan,
I agree with that generally - re Bryce. Must be the new 'do. Made him all swashbuckling and devil-may-care.
My thoughts on other players :
206 - not outstanding, but his last few weeks have been ok.
everitt - not really sold on him yet. I can't really work out where he fits in. Seems to be another lanky HFF. And not very quick IMO.
walks - shizen. Mick, please, I'm begging you. Play him in the forward line.
simmo - always brave. Went ok.
hendo - I hope and pray it's only the lack of preseason that accounts for his form. Borderline shizzen
2E - some good, some bad. Looked a little batter last night. hopefully not a lost cause.
Carrots - Great to have him back. Got better as the game went on. And did a very good job on Selwood.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2014-06-07/we-probably-impacted-the-game
Umpires boss Wayne Campbell admits Carlton forward Troy Menzel should have been paid a free kick and been given the chance to kick a match-winning goal in the dying seconds of Geelong's thrilling five-point win over the Blues on Friday night.
......"Ben Ryan, who was the umpire, was unsighted. (Umpires coach Hayden Kennedy) is very strong on not guessing to pay the free kick."
With 13 seconds to play, Robinson pushed Geelong runner Nigel Lappin out of his way and Malthouse was adamant it impeded the Blue's path to the ball.
However, Campbell was happy with the umpires' decision not to blow the whistle in that instance, because they didn't believe Lappin had impacted play.
"We would say it's not a free-kick," Campbell said.
"From an umpiring point-of-view we don't think he (Lappin) impacted play because it was at a stoppage.
In a game full of contentious calls, Campbell also declared a misdirected centre bounce that led to a goal to Geelong's Josh Walker in the second quarter should have been recalled.
"Clearly, both ruckmen couldn't contest the ball so we should have called it back," he said.
"Our whole aim is to not impact the game and obviously Geelong go down and kick a goal. So we probably impacted the game with that one.
well at least they acknowledged the error..... if that goose jeff gieschen was still around he would have beat around the bush with BS excuses...
I say again....i dont care about umpires...take good with the bad and grow some onions....
If the umpires did their correct job, we may not have the 79 Premiership cup in our locker......
I say again....i dont care about umpires...take good with the bad and grow some onions....
If the umpires did their correct job, we may not have the 79 Premiership cup in our locker......
Whilst we've been in the doldrums for the last little while, hopefully things aren't so bad that we had to sell the trophy cabinet.
I say again....i dont care about umpires...take good with the bad and grow some onions....
If the umpires did their correct job, we may not have the 79 Premiership cup in our locker......
Jesus MF, you're just a bundle of joy in this thread aren't you???
Btw - agree with all the Carrazzo comments, he had a good one last night, pleasing to see.
Prior to last night, Carrots had said that the senior core needed to stand up, and they all did except Waite.
We look more dangerous with Armfield in the side. Love his and Yarrans, and Walkers dash last night.
Would we get rid of Warnock too for the fact he can't mark?
Yep....plenty of tap outs vs Brisbane but they amounted to sweetFA IMO.....he was alright vs Geelong and I had him in my better players but he
has to deliver more around the ground.
lEVI HAS PLAYED 24 SENIOR GAMES IN HIS CAREER - KIVE THE 199CM, 104KG KID A BREAK.....
how long did it take Hawkins to get an act ffs.
Plenty of other out there last night who should be looked at before Levi.....
Agree. Teach him to kick and he could be anything.
Hawkins always had a reasonbale kicking action, Casboults two handed ball drop action where he has too much space between his hands and the boot when the ball is released will never be any good. That action needs a complete rebuild......
I'm probably gonna sound like a lunatic with this question, does it have anything to do with arm length?. There's been comments about Bartel's kicking effectiveness being due to such a low drop that reduces amount of time ball is in the air between release and connection with boot. It's either body mechanics preventing low drop or length of arms. Wouldn't mind seeing so e research in this.
I admit I haven't read the 10 pages of posts, but...
I don't reckon the free for Menzel was there at the death,..
And where was the runner's impediment to Robbo? Did it appear in the TV coverage? I saw him push a runner away while the ball was not active (before one of the final bounces).. Was that it?
I'm probably gonna sound like a lunatic with this question, does it have anything to do with arm length?. There's been comments about Bartel's kicking effectiveness being due to such a low drop that reduces amount of time ball is in the air between release and connection with boot. It's either body mechanics preventing low drop or length of arms. Wouldn't mind seeing so e research in this.
All the good kicks have minimal ball drop and guide the ball onto the boot with one hand......Casboults is more of a ball toss than guided action.
I'm probably gonna sound like a lunatic with this question, does it have anything to do with arm length?. There's been comments about Bartel's kicking effectiveness being due to such a low drop that reduces amount of time ball is in the air between release and connection with boot. It's either body mechanics preventing low drop or length of arms. Wouldn't mind seeing so e research in this.
All the good kicks have minimal ball drop and guide the ball onto the boot with one hand......Casboults is more of a ball toss than guided action.
Yeah, but why?
All the good kicks have minimal ball drop and guide the ball onto the boot with one hand......Casboults is more of a ball toss than guided action.
Carrazzo is another one with a two handed drop and his kicking was all over the place early on, he's worked on it and still drops it two handed but now he drops it from lower down, the result is that he can't kick as far because his weight isn't over his back foot at impact, but he's more accurate than he was.
If he tries for distance he still sprays it but up to about 30 metres he's OK.
Casboult's action can be fine tuned but it can't be fixed, he'll never be an accurate kick for goal from 35 - 40 metres or more.
It was definitely a free kick to Menzel but what cost us the game was lack of nous and/or understanding by our on field leaders. Selwood should have been shut down and we should have set up defensively at each stoppage to protect the lead.
Perhaps it's because we lack seasoned players (apart from Judd) who know how to win tight games. Gibbs, Murphy, Henderson, Carrazzo, etc have never had on field leaders who had been taught to take control and shut down close games and who could pass on that knowledge. It may also be a failing of successive coaches to ensure that the on field leaders know when and how to focus on defence.
I thought the players showed a lot more endeavour but, in the end, it was deficient structures that let us down. Despite that, I thought that Malthouse's coaching was the best I have seen since he came on board, apart from starting Jamison forward and having White as the sub.
Forgot to mention that the lack of a gun CHF didn't help either.
Prior to last night, Carrots had said that the senior core needed to stand up, and they all did except Waite.
We look more dangerous with Armfield in the side. Love his and Yarrans, and Walkers dash last night.
My problem is that Armfield went missing in the second half. I love his run, but we need to see it over the whole game.
I admit I haven't read the 10 pages of posts, but...
I don't reckon the free for Menzel was there at the death,..
And where was the runner's impediment to Robbo? Did it appear in the TV coverage? I saw him push a runner away while the ball was not active (before one of the final bounces).. Was that it?
Umpires boss has already said menzel should have got a free kick. He said the runner did nothing wrong but last night they paid a free against a runner that got too close. No doubt a memo will go out to all clubs this week regarding runners.
No doubt a memo will go out to all clubs this week regarding runners.
We'll probably get penalised next week because one of our runners gets in the way ::)
Any runner too close to the mix (the "stoppage" line is a furphy - the guy was in the way - full stop) - is a free every day of every week.
I would be checking if Lappin/the Cats have form in this area (someone said Freo's runners are notorious for it?) and considering a formal complaint.
Surely, if there is a strong argument that it was by design i.e. likely pre meditated and points should be reversed!
Seriously.
Any runner too close to the mix (the "stoppage" line is a furphy - the guy was in the way - full stop) - is a free every day of every week.
I would be checking if Lappin/the Cats have form in this area (someone said Freo's runners are notorious for it?) and considering a formal complaint.
Surely, if there is a strong argument that it was by design i.e. likely pre meditated and points should be reversed!
Seriously.
The issue of runners on the field needs to be looked at full stop. In my view, they should only be on there to help an injured player off the field. Every other reason should be outlawed asap.
No runners. They are used to fill space. If coaches want to get a message to players, they can do it through the interchange gate. Will also reduce costs for clubs.
Just watched the replay.....I know sucker for punishment.
One thing I'd like to know is how Roffey could be so absolutely sure of herself to not even bother asking for a goal replay on that one that Waite kicked off the ground in the 3rd ????........I sure as heck couldn't see a touch on the 3 replays I saw.
But she's one of the chosen ones, and so, of course, untouchable.
Just watched the replay.....I know sucker for punishment.
One thing I'd like to know is how Roffey could be so absolutely sure of herself to not even bother asking for a goal replay on that one that Waite kicked off the ground in the 3rd ????........I sure as heck couldn't see a touch on the 3 replays I saw.
But she's one of the chosen ones, and so, of course, untouchable.
Roffey makes less mistakes than most.
I would have put the hard word on the field umpire for not suggesting that it may be worth a look.
I also watched a replay of the game, how many times does Corey Enright incorrectly dispose the ball???
I also watched a replay of the game, how many times does Corey Enright incorrectly dispose the ball???
The cats are kings of incorrect disposal and getting away with it.
I also watched a replay of the game, how many times does Corey Enright incorrectly dispose the ball???
The cats are kings of incorrect disposal and getting away with it.
The Eagles are very tidy at it too.
No runners. They are used to fill space. If coaches want to get a message to players, they can do it through the interchange gate. Will also reduce costs for clubs.
Not sure if it has been previously mentioned, but Nigel Lappin is a FULL TIME DEVELOPMENT COACH at Geelong, therefore they have a coach as a runner.......Handy situation!
No runners. They are used to fill space. If coaches want to get a message to players, they can do it through the interchange gate. Will also reduce costs for clubs.
Not sure if it has been previously mentioned, but Nigel Lappin is a FULL TIME DEVELOPMENT COACH at Geelong, therefore they have a coach as a runner.......Handy situation!
Steady tiger, Osborne is our development coach and runner.
No runners. They are used to fill space. If coaches want to get a message to players, they can do it through the interchange gate. Will also reduce costs for clubs.
Not sure if it has been previously mentioned, but Nigel Lappin is a FULL TIME DEVELOPMENT COACH at Geelong, therefore they have a coach as a runner.......Handy situation!
Steady tiger, Osborne is our development coach and runner.
Oops.....good to see we're progressive!!
It was definitely a free kick to Menzel but what cost us the game was lack of nous and/or understanding by our on field leaders. Selwood should have been shut down and we should have set up defensively at each stoppage to protect the lead.
Perhaps it's because we lack seasoned players (apart from Judd) who know how to win tight games. Gibbs, Murphy, Henderson, Carrazzo, etc have never had on field leaders who had been taught to take control and shut down close games and who could pass on that knowledge. It may also be a failing of successive coaches to ensure that the on field leaders know when and how to focus on defence.
Spot on, I would say. On 774 on Sat. morning they asked Harry Taylor what Geelong would have done differently to Carlton at that stoppage where Selwood walked through the hole. He rattled off 5 or 6 'checks' which have been drilled into them. First was getting numbers back. Second was seeking out and shutting down the known match winners. Third was setting the blocks so there was no 'hole' goalside, ... and a few more.
When asked who is responsible for ensuring these tactics are adhered to in the heat of the battle he answered "the leaders".
Did anyone see any Carlton players directing traffic at this play? I didn't. A lot of us have often commented on how even The Great One (Juddy) never seems to do much talking or marshalling.
To my mind, this is yet another example of poor development over the years. Or did we not recruit the right players who have 'innate' leadership qualities? Shoot, this chicken and egg argument does my head in :-\
@ivan...yep almost all about recruitment and development
If we were the best at it, 50% of this site content will be reduced...
Pretty surprised that the Pussy Cats didn't even get a please explain from the AFL re Lappin getting into the thick of the action in their goal square in the last minute of play.
Pretty surprised that the Pussy Cats didn't even get a please explain from the AFL re Lappin getting into the thick of the action in their goal square in the last minute of play.
Would not be surprised if they did.
Pretty surprised that the Pussy Cats didn't even get a please explain from the AFL re Lappin getting into the thick of the action in their goal square in the last minute of play.
Wayne Campbell said it was okay, I'm surprised Robbo didn't get reported for pushing him.
Pretty surprised that the Pussy Cats didn't even get a please explain from the AFL re Lappin getting into the thick of the action in their goal square in the last minute of play.
Wayne Campbell said it was okay, I'm surprised Robbo didn't get reported for pushing him.
You would think it's one or the other. Of it was fine then there was no need for robbo to push him then.
If it was fine then there was no need for robbo to push him then.
Robbo is crazy?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-12/lappin-cops-fine
GEELONG runner Nigel Lappin has been fined $2000 for running into Carlton's Mitch Robinson during the frantic finish to last Friday's clash between the Cats and Blues at Etihad Stadium.
However, Lappin's fine is suspended, so if he stays out of trouble for 12 months, he won't need to hand over the cash.
Lappin walked front-on into Robinson's path with just 13 seconds remaining on the clock, prompting the fiery midfielder to push Lappin away.
"The AFL accepts that the Geelong runner stumbled after tripping on the foot of a Geelong player and inadvertently moved into the path of an opposition Carlton player, but all club officials must not put themselves in any position where they may interefere with the duties of an umpire or an opposition player’s role in the game," AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans
lol so they fined him (suspended fine) but he did nothing wrong?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-12/lappin-cops-fine
GEELONG runner Nigel Lappin has been fined $2000 for running into Carlton's Mitch Robinson during the frantic finish to last Friday's clash between the Cats and Blues at Etihad Stadium.
However, Lappin's fine is suspended, so if he stays out of trouble for 12 months, he won't need to hand over the cash.
Lappin walked front-on into Robinson's path with just 13 seconds remaining on the clock, prompting the fiery midfielder to push Lappin away.
"The AFL accepts that the Geelong runner stumbled after tripping on the foot of a Geelong player and inadvertently moved into the path of an opposition Carlton player, but all club officials must not put themselves in any position where they may interefere with the duties of an umpire or an opposition player’s role in the game," AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans
lol so they fined him (suspended fine) but he did nothing wrong?
That is a disgrace. Typical AFL soft c... BS.
So, why wasn't a FREE KICK AWARDED?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-06-12/lappin-cops-fine
GEELONG runner Nigel Lappin has been fined $2000 for running into Carlton's Mitch Robinson during the frantic finish to last Friday's clash between the Cats and Blues at Etihad Stadium.
However, Lappin's fine is suspended, so if he stays out of trouble for 12 months, he won't need to hand over the cash.
Lappin walked front-on into Robinson's path with just 13 seconds remaining on the clock, prompting the fiery midfielder to push Lappin away.
"The AFL accepts that the Geelong runner stumbled after tripping on the foot of a Geelong player and inadvertently moved into the path of an opposition Carlton player, but all club officials must not put themselves in any position where they may interefere with the duties of an umpire or an opposition player’s role in the game," AFL general manager of football operations Mark Evans
lol so they fined him (suspended fine) but he did nothing wrong?
That is a disgrace. Typical AFL soft c... BS.
So, why wasn't a FREE KICK AWARDED?
The simple answer is that the AFL is trying to use the umpires to determine the look of the game. In my opinion, the game would be more attractive if umpires were directed to blow their whistle every time the rules of the game are transgressed.
Runners should not be allowed on the ground during the last 3 minutes of a game IMO...Lappin should have been suspended .
Runners should not be allowed on the ground during the last 3 minutes of a game IMO...Lappin should have been suspended .
With three field umpires out there many of them awarding free kicks from 50m away yet none saw a runner in the middle of a stoppage! The runner might have got a suspended fine but those umpires need to be officiating in Border Town this weekend.
What's the odds that an umpire gets pinged for interfering with the play this weekend. ;)
That's an insult to the border league.
There's also a good chance of a "Runner" getting pinged for interfering with the play :-[
(Thanks Essendon for making me stay up past my bedtime.) :D
If I remember in the game Saints vs Port I think the Saints runner got pinged for interfering with the game and the ball was 50metres down field I think the Saints originally had the freekick but it was taken off them and given to Port so we were robbed of a free kick >:(
This current discussion is why, in my opinion, the umpiring standard is dropping.
While I agree that on field, players need to show respect for not just the umpires, but their decisions, there needs to be post match discussion of the umpire's performance and blatant errors, particularly those that have impacted the game need to be acknowledged. For the umpires chief to come out publicly and state there was no issue, and then the runner involved have been found to have broken the rules and subsequently punished, is a disgrace. These guys need to own up to their mistakes, and take note of how they need to do things better.
The medical field is coming around to the practice of discussing poor outcomes for patients, and discussing what can be done to improve service and care in order to try and preventing it from happening again. Studies show this leads to better outcomes. Furthermore, studies also show that by acknowledging errors to patients, patients are less likely to pursue legal action against practitioners (obviously not in all cases).
Maybe there's something in that for the umps.