Carlton Supporters Club

So you're seeing it Goin'....Williams encapsulates everything wrong at Carlton.  A lazy, selfish, soft as a bag of kittens footballer comfortable with his 800 000 a year who couldn't or wouldn't get fit enough to do his purported role.... So now the team has to compensate by creating a role for him whereby he hides away and does SFA.  Not hungry enough or desparate enough, comes off the ground giving the impression "oh well, there's always next week".  We didn't pay that amount for what we're getting, or more exactly, no getting...same with Cerra (supposed to add silk to our ball use) or MacG. We need low cost (draft and $) players that deliver above tote odds, not highly paid under deliverers.

As for "Deadly" Motlop... The excuses - and there were lots of them - for this bloke was he wasn't fit enough last year.  So what's the excuse this year?  Handles the ball like a wet brick - won't make it and after three years had enough of carrying blokes like this.  Had opportunities to kick a bag last night, nowhere near good enough.

There were some flashes of good stuff but not enough and for long enough, we just don't have the list to go anywhere significant

We will never be taken seriously when we can only manage two goals in the second half of any match. Don't forget, we did the same thing last week.

Season over now ........... we are just another mid-table team who will pinch the occassional scalp along the way but that's about it.

Quote from: LordLucifer – on March 21, 2025, 09:02:58 am

I'd like to point out something to everyone .....

Last year's final against Brisbane, we were held scoreless in the first quarter, kicked two in the second quarter & three in the third quarter (five goals overall in three quarters).

In the first game against Richmond, we kicked two goals in the second, 1 goal in the third & 1 goal in the last (4 goals overall in three quarters).

Last night against the Hawks, we kicked two goals in the first quarter, two goals in the third quarter and zero goals in the last quarter (4 goals in three quarters).

Adding those all together, in 1.5 matches, we have managed the stellar total of 13 goals which is not enough to beat the Little League at half-time. 

Seriously, we are kidding ourselves if we think this sort of utter crap is going to get us into finals contentions, we are so far off the pace it is embarrassing.

The common factor in all those games though is that either Harry or Charlie has been missing.
And when they've played they've both been below their best.
Our structure, the one that works well, is missing.
With those two playing it also takes a better defensive effort from the opposition and frees up other players to score.

Quote from: Professer E – on March 21, 2025, 10:45:43 am

So you're seeing it Goin'....Williams encapsulates everything wrong at Carlton.  A lazy, selfish, soft as a bag of kittens footballer comfortable with his 800 000 a year who couldn't or wouldn't get fit enough to do his purported role.... So now the team has to compensate by creating a role for him whereby he hides away and does SFA.  Not hungry enough or desparate enough, comes off the ground giving the impression "oh well, there's always next week".  We didn't pay that amount for what we're getting, or more exactly, no getting...same with Cerra (supposed to add silk to our ball use) or MacG. We need low cost (draft and $) players that deliver above tote odds, not highly paid under deliverers.

As for "Deadly" Motlop... The excuses - and there were lots of them - for this bloke was he wasn't fit enough last year.  So what's the excuse this year?  Handles the ball like a wet brick - won't make it and after three years had enough of carrying blokes like this.  Had opportunities to kick a bag last night, nowhere near good enough.

Look Prof, there is no doubting Zac's skills, but I saw a few moments from him last night when it was hot and everyone was tearing in for the footy and he didn't go when he had to. Little moments like that have an affect on your teams, sag off and they think negatively, tearing in balls and alll and the teammate lift to emulate. As I said, it take zero skill to tear in, just desire and it surprises me when they dont. Not sure if its a between the ears thing, fear of injury, no idea but to me its the least you can do. This stuff kills coaches.

Zac is probably our best small forward and most efficient sad to say, Motlop looks better playing up the ground as an old fashioned rover who rests down forward but does most of his better work up the field and in the middle and thats where I would be playing him more and forgetting about him as a dedicated small forward.
No doubt Zac has been a monumental fail and not lived up to expectations but we are going to have to live with his inconsistencies
until we can recruit the genuine article.
Lazy is a term you could apply to a few more players than Williams....I watched Young and Haynes spectate then fumble down back and easy goal was kicked on the back of their lazy insipid efforts at ground level where neither failed to contest properly and couldnt be bothered. They need dropping never to return, Chol is a muppet but he intimidated our players including Weitering and it was embarrassing seeing him push our blokes around. I can cop losing but lets at least get some mongrel in our game and stop playing nice, Voss isnt a great tactician but he doesnt have much to work with and its breaking the likes of Cripps having to do everything much like we broke Judd, TDK was very good but he must thinking of how much easier he could have it down on the Bellarine at the Cattery and not having to carry so much of a load on his young shoulders.

So, the whorks play with 19 men and get away with it.  Doesn't score reset to zero, so we actually won by how much?
Umpires didn't have a great night did they.

There were some flashes of good stuff but not enough and for long enough, we just don't have the list to go anywhere significant

We will never be taken seriously when we can only manage two goals in the second half of any match. Don't forget, we did the same thing last week.

Season over now ........... we are just another mid-table team who will pinch the occassional scalp along the way but that's about it.