Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on March 21, 2025, 03:47:01 pm

Zac is probably our best small forward and most efficient sad to say, Motlop looks better playing up the ground as an old fashioned rover who rests down forward but does most of his better work up the field and in the middle and thats where I would be playing him more and forgetting about him as a dedicated small forward.
No doubt Zac has been a monumental fail and not lived up to expectations but we are going to have to live with his inconsistencies
until we can recruit the genuine article.
Lazy is a term you could apply to a few more players than Williams....I watched Young and Haynes spectate then fumble down back and easy goal was kicked on the back of their lazy insipid efforts at ground level where neither failed to contest properly and couldnt be bothered. They need dropping never to return, Chol is a muppet but he intimidated our players including Weitering and it was embarrassing seeing him push our blokes around. I can cop losing but lets at least get some mongrel in our game and stop playing nice, Voss isnt a great tactician but he doesnt have much to work with and its breaking the likes of Cripps having to do everything much like we broke Judd, TDK was very good but he must thinking of how much easier he could have it down on the Bellarine at the Cattery and not having to carry so much of a load on his young shoulders.

Agree wholeheartedly re Haynes and Young, I think it was the mark Gunston took which he goaled from, Haynes needed to read it and get over to create mayhem by flying to create the contest. Instead, he just jogged a few meters back. Insipid but it accounts to lacking attention to detail. Defenders just aren't defensively minded anymore. As an old school defender, I was taught to always watch your man, anticipate his next move based not the flow of play. So first and foremost, as a defender, my mindset was to me miserly at all times, if my opponent didn't take a mark, get a disposal or score, I had done my job. These guys are worries about zones, shapes, handovers, run and carry. Just defend FFS.

Quote from: 31Tommys_barber – on March 20, 2025, 10:52:28 pm

Hawks certainly had the rub of the green from the umpires they got the 50/50 ones while ours were given well after 3 or 4 had already been missed.

Definitely a feel of free kick hawthorn. Of course they gave us 4-5 in the last quarter to even up those stats a bit, mostly in our D50.

What even is HTB anymore 🤷

We have some issues no doubt.
Folks have pretty much covered them.

But on the flip side, you look at the position we're in...

We played arguably the form side of the competition.
We were essentially without our two key forwards because Curnow's contribution was only to draw an opponent.
As a result our forward structure was nowhere near its optimum.
Motlop and Silvagni both had close misses. Jack a poster, Motlop overturned on a late review.
I think there were a couple of others.

They only scored 80 points.
Only two teams since they began their charge in the middle of last year have restricted them to lower scores.
The inside 50s were almost even...they had one more.
We won the clearances

We have some issues no doubt.
Folks have pretty much covered them.

But on the flip side, you look at the position we're in...

We played arguably the form side of the competition.
We were essentially without our two key forwards because Curnow's contribution was only to draw an opponent.
As a result our forward structure was nowhere near its optimum.
Motlop and Silvagni both had close misses. Jack a poster, Motlop overturned on a late review.
I think there were a couple of others.
Scoring shots were the same.

They only scored 80 points.
Only two teams since they began their charge in the middle of last year have restricted them to lower scores.
The inside 50s were almost even...they had one more.
We won the clearances
Tackles were fairly even

In the end it was their efficiency which was the difference.

We play different styles of game.
They're at the top of their game with their style at the moment...run, skill, precision
We're a bit off the pace with ours....pressure, clearance, stoppage wins

Some have suggested ours is out-dated and their's is the new modern way to play.
Lets see how that develops if we can get back close to our best.

I agree Lods. It wasn't so long ago that the Brutal Blues were the talk of the town. Now the same people are saying our style is unsustainable, taxing and we're sending Cripps to an early grave.

I am not sure why Lemmey,  Binns, Moir and Wilson are on the list if we are not going to give them a go.

Our problem is the execution of our skills. This I believe leads to players having a lack of belief and trust in their teamates and makes us reactive which makes us look slow uncertain and less inclined to take initiative. We are scared of making mistakes so we don't take chances which leads to us playing conservatively and one dimensional.

Quote from: Lods – on March 21, 2025, 06:50:34 pm

Lucas Campo has had a taste of senior footy and shown a bit more than expected.

Yea,  we got shown his breakfast and definitely wasn't expecting that 

Quote from: Micky0 – on March 20, 2025, 10:58:53 pm

Definitely a feel of free kick hawthorn. Of course they gave us 4-5 in the last quarter to even up those stats a bit, mostly in our D50.

What even is HTB anymore 🤷

Yes and the even upper frees were deep in our backhalf. Meaning the frees were useless