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Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #60
Agree with those who question our lack of fitness. Last night it was quite obvious we started to run out of gas about halfway through the 2Q. We then became more susceptible to pressure and started making a lot more mistakes. Gutsy win in the end, by the skin of our teeth.
But we got rid of the the problem, Russell (appararent the worst HP guy ever and the cause of all our problems). How is it possible? Our players dont like it tough, that's the problem. I said it last night, our midfield isn't tough enough for long enough and it almost cost us the game. Another 2 or 4 minutes and we would have lost. Talk of toughing out a win is rubbish IMO.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #61
At one stage last night both teams wasted time kicking the ball to each other from half back line to half back line with repeated silly turnovers and poor execution of skills, wasnt lack of effort in winning the ball but both teams play a midpack team standard gamestyle because the skill level and decision making isnt consistent or high quality enough.

It's funny you mention that....
Exactly the same thing happened in the VFL at one stage yesterday.
I remember because I meant to comment on it at the time.
I just summarised it as an 'awful scrappy game'
It's probably a club wide thing for both sides. :D  :D

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #62
Agree with those who question our lack of fitness. Last night it was quite obvious we started to run out of gas about halfway through the 2Q. We then became more susceptible to pressure and started making a lot more mistakes. Gutsy win in the end, by the skin of our teeth.
But we got rid of the the problem, Russell (appararent the worst HP guy ever and the cause of all our problems). How is it possible? Our players dont like it tough, that's the problem. I said it last night, our midfield isn't tough enough for long enough and it almost cost us the game. Another 2 or 4 minutes and we would have lost. Talk of toughing out a win is rubbish IMO.
Tend to agree, we tend to rely on those usual suspects like Cripps and Hewett to keep carrying the load and dont get the next wave coming through to take on part of that load, Motlop was the exception who was one who put together a full game.
Is it fitness, lack of effort or do slow players just look really slow when they get tired?

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #63
Obviously experts think we are better than where we sit (probably right). Where else would 13th beating 10th be called unimpressive, yet they were probably right.

We probably suffer a bit from 'expectations" and being a bit of a "names on paper" side.
Our team last night featured
-a dual Brownlow medallist
-a dual Coleman medallist
-and seven All-Australians (albeit not at...or past their best)

(If Harry had played, as selected, we would have had another Coleman and another AA player)

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #64
At one stage last night both teams wasted time kicking the ball to each other from half back line to half back line with repeated silly turnovers and poor execution of skills, wasnt lack of effort in winning the ball but both teams play a midpack team standard gamestyle because the skill level and decision making isnt consistent or high quality enough.

It's funny you mention that....
Exactly the same thing happened in the VFL at one stage yesterday.
I remember because I meant to comment on it at the time.
I just summarised it as an 'awful scrappy game'
It's probably a club wide thing for both sides. :D  :D

Nothing funny about it all Lods, its central to our issues it drives me to despair. A good mate mine tells me AdNauseam, we have some of the dumbest players in the comp, I try and defend them but I think he's right.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #65
Durham offered a two match ban.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #66
Fun fact, we scored 78 points this week, hardly a commanding attacking performance.
Only 2 teams scored more than us this round
Sydney with 80
Hawks with 81.

Gotta be the lowest scoring round for a LONG time.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #67
Rightly so.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

 

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #68
Obviously experts think we are better than where we sit (probably right). Where else would 13th beating 10th be called unimpressive, yet they were probably right.

We probably suffer a bit from 'expectations" and being a bit of a "names on paper" side.
Our team last night featured
-a dual Brownlow medallist
-a dual Coleman medallist
-and seven All-Australians (albeit not at...or past their best)

(If Harry had played, as selected, we would have had another Coleman and another AA player)
Good observation Lods.
At the moment, the form of the "name players" is not matching the reputation or expectations.
Like others, I believe we are a middle of the road team, nothing more nothing less.
We're not solid and reliable like the Filth, or skilful like Brisvegas, or quick like the Dawks.
We play contested footy well and generally (apart from bursts like the first quarter) move the ball from contest to contest and try and score. It's usually grinding, hard work and due to our poor skills and turnovers , we score maybe 30-40% of the time we go inside 50.
We're one paced, so often get torched on turnovers and we have a forward line that usually can't keep the ball locked in when it hits the deck (often).
This list is miles off a premiership list.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #69

P1ss weak!

Only luck saved Cerra from a terrible injury and all players know that’s not acceptable.

If Cerra had suffered a concussion, Durham would have got 4 weeks.  Rather than an outcome focused approach, the MRO/Tribunal should be looking at potential to cause serious injury.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #70
P1ss weak!

Only luck saved Cerra from a terrible injury and all players know that’s not acceptable.

If Cerra had suffered a concussion, Durham would have got 4 weeks.  Rather than an outcome focused approach, the MRO/Tribunal should be looking at potential to cause serious injury.

I also thought it was a little lenient.

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #71
I think more outrage needs to be focussed on how someone like Stewart gets off rather than the length of Durham's ban.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #72
I think more outrage needs to be focussed on how someone like Stewart gets off rather than the length of Durham's ban.
A poster on BF who is Noah Anderson's cousin though the bump was not worthy of a suspension. Just saying.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #73
Anderson could have ended up with a ruptured kidney or even his spleen damaged, it's unacceptable when Stewart had failed to attack the footy.

I'm not against bumps and shepherds, but that have to be acts focussed on the footy not the player.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 13 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Essendon

Reply #74
I've come up with one positive in season 2025.

We seem to be having more even performances across the team where we aren't relying on someone in blistering form to get in winning positions. 

This can only be a good thing.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson